r/respectthreads • u/Cleverly_Clearly ⭐⭐⭐⭐ The RT Machine • Mar 01 '23
literature Respect Xeranthemum! (Suggsverse)
Xeranthemum
In the setting of Heir to the Stars, an infinite-beyond-infinite cosmology, god-creator and author figure ♠The Ace of Spades♠ has stepped down from the throne of creation. In his place, seven chosen competitors feud over who will control all of creation and then some, engaging in battles that span over the highest possible conception of superhuman power and ability. In this world of ultra-powerful god beings, however, there are those that stand over everything including ♠The Ace of Spades♠. Those are the Voyagers, of which Xeranthemum is one. By definition of her being, Xeranthemum is the most powerful character in Heir to the Stars (and even outside of Heir to the Stars), and when she appears, it is usually to close the book on whatever has come before her, simply to blow it out like a candle.
Credit to /u/ya-boi-benny for collaborating on this RT. Feats hosted on Pastebin include the book titles and chapter numbers. Feats from the author-hosted website will be marked with W.
Being
General
- Xeranthemum is a Voyager and the true heir to ♠The Ace of Spades♠. She is beyond all meaning of the be-all end-all, free from 0 and absolute infinity. At this meta-level, she is beyond the necessity and essentiality of her own meaning. She is at a level beyond all perspectives, completely free from all unions of Nothing and Possibility. Concepts like life, death, reality, existence, nonexistence, causality or actuality have no connection to her, and she stands at the level beyond Meta-Omnipotence
- In an attempt to give some idea of the power-scaling of this universe, ♠The Ace of Spades♠ describes various tiers of omnipotence where a truly infinite transcendent being would be a 1, he would be a 3, and he identifies other characters as being 8s or 10s; the Judeo-Christian god and Brahman are lower than 1
- Her height, weight, age and status in existence are “∀[S]parainsurmountable beyond any and all systems”, although she can appear as a normal human being to interact with other charactersW
- She is the most powerful entity in any Suggsverse title
Transcendence
- Her power surpasses the no-limits fallacy and attempting to scale her power level is pointless. Any fictional setting in existence appears as fiction to herself. Xeranthemum is always stronger than anyone or anything that exists.W
- She is constantly transcending her own power to the point that any named character, force or power level in the Suggsverse franchise means absolutely nothing to herW
- Whatever fiction or story or universe that Xeranthemum inhabits, she instantly transcends the hierarchy of that setting. This includes the Heir to the Stars setting, which to her seems like nonexistent fiction.W
- She transcends any and all concepts, definitions and logic of any kind. She cannot be influenced by any force that doesn’t originate from her own will. Her being transcends life and death, creation and destruction, dimensionality, context, narratives, and description.W
- Her power exists beyond the work of Lionel Suggs, and she has affected other stories by other authors. Her power reaches beyond the scope of fiction and exists, in some way, in our reality.W
- One micro-particle of Xeranthemum’s being outranks her mother’s Strand and the ♠The Ace of Spades♠’s reconstruction of every narrative layer
Other
- Is the one unpredictable element in Lionel Suggs and Lamont Vanity's master plan, appearing out of nowhere at the moment of their triumph
- The ♠The Ace of Spades♠ cannot perceive Voyagers unless they allow him to
Action
Destruction
- Those that attempt to challenge Xeranthemum will be passively erased from existence on a narrative level. This passive ability transcends the effects of Deus ex Machina or paratextual, narrative-based protections.W
- Halts Lionel Suggs and Lamont Vanity, dispersing both of them into stardust without even requiring action on her part. It happens "just because". Lionel and Lamont had previously destroyed ♠The Ace of Spades♠, all JOKERS, the Mainfold, and the Art Gallery
- Erases the complete entirety of Suggsverse: all Floors, Fortresses, Lion's Dens, and Ace to Machina, in an effortless manner. This is part of the other Voyagers erasing all of Suggsverse to create everything anew, and her fellow Voyagers Golden Strawberry and Physalis prepare the world to be erased before she draws the final blow.
- Disintegrates a Strand of Zephyranth the Voyager’s hair, which holds domain over “infinitely-layered realities possessing infinite higher qualities of existence and nonexistence”, and totally outranks any character or force in the Heir to the Stars narrative, aside from the Voyagers themselves
- Physically crushes a handful of her mother's Strands
- Erases the avatar of a Strand, which just seconds ago bisected the Heir to the Stars narrative
Other
- Teleports into another fiction known as the Trinity Trials universe by appearing from a fountain, causing the water to rise into a tsunami
- Moments after arriving in the realm of the Trinity Trials, she warps the space on a narrative level, halting the impending unraveling of reality and shaping the realm into something different
- Teleports behind the ♠The Ace of Spades♠
- Pauses the narrative of the story, then switches it to follow her actions instead
- Observes as her daughter completely rewrites and creates all aspects of the Heir to the Stars stories written by Lionel C. Suggs, exhibiting an authorial control over the series without oversight or opposition. She seems unaffected by all this.
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u/Kaju_researcher Mar 01 '23
Is she the strongest Character posted here?
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u/GodzillaFan30 Mar 02 '23
The author is a power scaler so he tried to make the powerful verse every created. Suggsverse is basically just very shitty fan fiction that somebody say stomps SCP on r/whowouldwin every once in a while.
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u/XXBEERUSXX ⭐ Heir to the Monado Mar 02 '23
Its not fanfiction
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u/GodzillaFan30 Mar 02 '23
Basically it is. It’s like Battle Boarding fanfic.
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u/ya-boi-benny Mar 03 '23
Do you know what fanfiction is
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u/GodzillaFan30 Mar 03 '23
I said basically dawg. Go away
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u/ya-boi-benny Mar 03 '23
No you didn't
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u/GodzillaFan30 Mar 03 '23
Suggsverse is basically
Basically it is.
🧢
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u/providerofair Jul 28 '25
To create a character that is pure wank just because you got mad at power scaling would've been peak fiction only if the character had depth
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Mar 01 '23
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u/AlexanderBirthright Aug 05 '23
I didn't know that books were static and characters had to remain the same at all times. News to me.
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u/GodofGodsnorly Mar 10 '24
Oi. Leo... I have a question for ya. this ah verse of yours. its what? like... it's some alt earth. like DC or Marvel. or it's a thing different (let's say as example would be Legacy of Kain with Nosgoth. (clearly universe with no earth and not having any connection to that). which one is that your thing? or u dont know and u just made characters? surely you can explain such a simple question about your own thing ye? so A (alt Earth) or B (sth else entirely)?
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Jan 01 '24
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u/AlexanderBirthright Jan 01 '24
Very interested. Sounds like I have a fan. Too bad I already thought of this. But good try
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u/AlexanderBirthright Jan 01 '24
Well, you see, my character has the ability to ignore what authors have stated, and has exterminated suggsverse without being enabled to do so by Lionel and outside of what he stated about his Fanfic statements. They have also made each character in fiction stronger than suggsverse will ever be, to the following extent: Take the amount of power Lionel considers all the voyagers have over the weakest character in fiction, multiply it by itself times itself, and get a value "(X)". The character makes each character in meta/ultra/omni/regular/fan/etc/fiction a new absolute infinity order of infinite (X) stronger than all the voyagers and suggsverse combined everytime Suggs edits anything in out or related to his work, everytime he thinks a thought, with every neuron that fires in his brain, with every letter he types. If Lionel or anyone else tries to in any way or form challenge my supreme authority and my statements, my character grows in power more than any feat word statement author or anything whatsoever could ever describe. Take all the Voyagers and every other being in fiction, task them with describing the greatest power they possibly can, multiply it by itself on an endless scale of endlessness and you will not even begin to describe how much more powerful each sub preon of my characters weakest thoughtform will become with each attemt to even think about dissobeying my ultimate will. Also, stating that i have some other will in a writen or other form, or trying to circumvent this based on loopholes in my statement automatically fails, there is literally nothing anything can ever do, no argument anyone can ever create, that even begins to challenge my will. This statement exists infinite orders of infinities above what Lionel suggs views suggsverses to be, it exists above all infinities, realms, everythings, nothings, and anything that can or cannot be thought of or invented, and beyond.
I also think you missed the fact that my books are officially published and copyrighted with official database numbers attached to them. Been this way for over a decade. I don't know why you're saying fanfic. You might want to reread what fanfiction is.
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u/Terrible_Canary_8291 Aug 13 '24
Hey, i know this person, and they never deleted their comments. They also sent a reply to your response explaining that by Fanfic they meant a statement about fanfic being part of HTTS. I assume you could not see it because they are banned?
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u/kinglamar1 Jul 28 '23
I'll say that she's not weak by any means, if anything she's blatanly powerful. However from a power scaling perspective The ceiling/limitation of fiction hard caps her powers here. She can't be unbeatable since she's bound by narritive, and she can't scale over outside series due to the fact that the very narrative that grants her powers has no influence over them. Due to this her "unbeatable" status is nonsense, and without that verses like DC would still be too much for her at this current time but she still scales over verses like dragon ball. Fiction is a beast not so easily conquered.
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u/AlexanderBirthright Aug 05 '23
Considering that it's confirmed that she scales over 2 other published series by two different authors, that one claim is debunked. She scales over Trinity Trials by Dexter Carr, and another book by Anthony Daniels. And she scales over the fan fictional work by Lyric Wright.
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u/kinglamar1 Aug 05 '23
Nice to speak to you Mr suggs. I actually don't really value author statements, I only value the material itself. Although from what i've seen she would still scale above those series even without those statements so I don't even think you need to use those.
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u/GodofGodsnorly Mar 10 '24
why do you comment on your own posts on ... an alt account? XD
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u/kinglamar1 Mar 10 '24
This ain’t an alt man.
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u/GodofGodsnorly Mar 11 '24
ye ye ok. I have a question for ya. this verse of yours. its what? like... it's some alt earth. like DC or Marvel. or it's a thing different (let's say as example would be Legacy of Kain with Nosgoth. (clearly universe with no earth and not having any connection to that). which one is that your thing? or u dont know and u just made characters? surely you can explain such a simple question about your own thing ye? so A (alt Earth) or B (sth else entirely)?
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u/kinglamar1 Mar 11 '24
That’s something you’ll have to ask the actual author for man, I can’t speak for him.
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u/GodofGodsnorly Mar 11 '24
Lazily you named your alts as those characters from your thing. So you can't even answer that. well....XD
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u/kinglamar1 Mar 11 '24
What character are you referring too? I don’t even know any characters with my username. Again I am not Suggs, that’s a baseless assumption you came up with.
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u/Remarkable-Let6376 Apr 08 '24
bro, you just decided to walk in a convo and absolutely embarrass yourself
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u/Frequent_Card_2436 16d ago edited 16d ago
Fact 1: Fictional characters do not possess causal powers over the actual world; claims that they “exceed” or “outrank” reality are true only within their stories, never outside them. Any assertion to the contrary commits a category error and an appeal to false authority, since no real author nor their characters can alter the laws or ontological structure of the actual world.
Fact 2: Fictions exist only within the actual world as representations (texts, images, code, performances). Comparisons such as “this character transcends all realities, including ours” are confined to narrative contexts and have no bearing on the actual world. To treat such claims as literal is to confuse representation with ontology.
Fact 3: The boundary between fiction and reality is ontological and semantic: facts about fictions depend entirely on real-world artifacts and conventions, whereas facts about reality concern concrete, causally efficacious beings and structures. Conflating these domains results in a fundamental error of category.
Fact 4: Statements made inside a story establish what is true within that fictional framework. They do not, by themselves, establish what is true in reality even when they declare a character to be “beyond fiction” or “beyond reality.” Such declarations are narrative devices, not metaphysical facts.
Fact 5: A character’s properties are determined by its authoritative corpus (canon, licensed works, or accepted conventions). While multiple continuities may exist, every character remains bound to some body of representation and cannot exist free-floating beyond it. To suggest otherwise mistakes invention for ontological independence.
Fact 6: We directly perceive only the real-world media that depict characters; the characters themselves are imagined. This conceptual accessibility underscores that fictional beings exist solely within representational practices, never outside them. Claims of “incomprehensible” or “unimaginable” fictional beings are still mediated by imagination and thus remain fictional constructs.
Fact 7: Apparent “real-time interactions” with fictional characters, whether through actors, texts, software, or AI, are interactions with artifacts of our world, not with the fictional entities themselves. No fictional character exerts causal influence on reality; only their representations do within the laws and confines of the real world through said actors, texts, software, or AI.
Fact 8: If a character is defined as “not bound by any real author or authority,” then no truth-maker exists to determine its properties. Any claims about such a being’s abilities are therefore indeterminate (“featless”) or incoherent. Consistency can only be restored if the being is bound to a fictional author, corpus or a similar fictional trope, proving that all fictional characters require representational grounding.
Fact 9: No fictional character can truly transcend real world constructs, even when imagined as “beyond all tropes.” The very idea of being “beyond tropes” is itself a trope, since it remains a representational device within storytelling. Thus, claims of a truly absolute transcendence are paradoxically self-defeating regardless of the character’s abilities.
Fact 10: Only an actual, true God beyond fiction could bring into existence a “being once imagined as fictional” that transcends fiction. By definition, such an entity would cease to be a ‘character’ (a representational construct) and would instead be a real being (an ontological existent), existing outside all narrative frameworks and sustained solely by God’s will. From this it follows that all real humans, as ontological existents, are inherently superior to all fictional constructs that have ever been, are, or will be imagined in fiction.
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u/WhyDoName Mar 01 '23
Finally a character that can't be wanked because it is wank in it's purest form.