r/2mediterranean4u Larps as an Extinct Race Oct 08 '24

Maghreb classic (🇲🇦🇩🇿🇹🇳🇱🇾) The duality of men

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u/alexandianos We Wuz Kangz Oct 08 '24

It was the ottomans who created the state of algiers, specifically khayradin barbarossa and his brother.

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u/muhbir111 Professional Rock Thrower Oct 08 '24

Definitely a hero who deserves more recognition.

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u/alexandianos We Wuz Kangz Oct 08 '24

It’s funny the contrast in opinions - for arab history he was a true hero, for the uropeans he was just a pirate and algeria was just a giant pirate base lol. Just look him up in english and in arabic, the difference is staggering

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u/muhbir111 Professional Rock Thrower Oct 08 '24

But every source says that Spanish Inquisition burned people who didnt convert alive, jews and muslims, barbossa saved tens of thousands of them from the spaniards, which means, hero.

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u/ottohightower2024 Brazilian Speaking Spaniard Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24

you mean he put slaves into galleys with exposed backs under a scorching Mediterranean sun until their skin came off? I mean I'm not surprised this is your standard for heroism... third world irredentists do have a funny system of values

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u/muhbir111 Professional Rock Thrower Oct 09 '24

Bro your ancestors fcked a whole continent so stfu

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u/ottohightower2024 Brazilian Speaking Spaniard Oct 09 '24 edited Oct 09 '24
  1. Am not Portuguese but live here, flair is for the banter
  2. Cry harder lol. You just confessed you furiously masturbate to the idea of your perceived ingroup doing the same as long as it's done to your perceived outgroup. See, everyone is after their interests? The only difference is skill issue.
  3. Talking about skill issue, this was accidentally (or not) posted on the anniversary of the battle of Lepanto. Get rekt + Christus Rex

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u/muhbir111 Professional Rock Thrower Oct 09 '24

Lol w/e nerd

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u/Bernardito10 European Mexico Oct 09 '24

According to some modern estimates, around 150,000 people were prosecuted for various offences during the three-century duration of the Spanish Inquisition, of whom between 3,000 and 5,000 were executed, approximately 2.7 percent of all cases.They prosecuted the “conversos” that were “former” jews and muslims that said to have converted to Christianity but practice their religion in secret,there were several muslims and converso revolts before and after it

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u/Hungry-Square2148 Arab wannabe Oct 10 '24

kinda how the crusades in European history are all these epic wars and revenge and conquest, meanwhile for arab historian of the time, it was just "yet another series of attacks from the unwashed franks"

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u/Practical-Path-8905 Oct 09 '24

That flair is hilarious

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u/balbiza-we-chikha Oct 08 '24

It was the ottomans who gave Algiers much of the territory that has historically been under Tunisian influence/control. So yeah, they better like them lol

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u/KabyleAmazigh85 Oct 09 '24

What? Algiers is built by the Zirid Amazigh dynasty

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u/WayOk3470 Oct 08 '24

Barbarosa? Was him German?

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u/ananasorcu Lightbulb Worshipper Oct 08 '24

Barbarossa, or “red beard”, is a nickname given to him by his enemies. His real name is “Hızır Hayrettin” and his brother Oruç too sometimes mentioned as Barbarossa Oruç.

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u/altahor42 Arabo-Indian Atagay Worshipper Oct 08 '24

Oruç had a real red beard, according to rumor, after Oruç died, Hızır dyed his beard red and took over the name.

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u/Comfortable-Cry8165 Mountainoid Allies 🤝 (Caucasians) Oct 08 '24

No, he was Turkish. Europeans called him Barbarossa. There are many theories why but real name was Hayreddin

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u/nwhosmellslikeweed Oct 08 '24

Hayreddin was also a nickname/title given to him(Hayır ed-Din). His name was Hızır, official title Hızır Reis.

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u/ThOneWithNoGoodName Arabo-Indian Atagay Worshipper Oct 08 '24

Albanian*

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u/Moonbeam1184 Arabo-Indian Atagay Worshipper Oct 08 '24

All albanians are turks bro, we demographically changed their ethnic group during the ottoman period.

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u/Choice_Appeal_1926 Balkan Allies 🤝  Oct 08 '24

Albanians are turks

Albanians are from Africa

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u/Moonbeam1184 Arabo-Indian Atagay Worshipper Oct 08 '24

Karaboga turks.

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u/Comfortable-Cry8165 Mountainoid Allies 🤝 (Caucasians) Oct 08 '24

Test came back, God is Albanian

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u/Naive_Marionberry_91 Oct 08 '24

Child of a turkish sipahi who migrated to lesbos island and greek mother.

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u/KeanaynV5 Arabo-Indian Atagay Worshipper Oct 10 '24

Babası tımar sahibi bir Türk.

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u/phases3ber Pole Larping as a Biblical Tribe (Ashkenazi) Oct 08 '24

The one you're thinking of is Fredrick Barbarossa