r/2westerneurope4u • u/Neon_20 Digital nomad • 2d ago
An 'armed' Comic Con attendee gets tackled by London Metro Police. Somehow it doesn't get any more British than this.
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u/angrypassionfruit Professional Rioter 2d ago
To be fair to those Bobby’s, that looks like a real handgun.
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u/finicky88 Born in the Khalifat 2d ago
Bro is wearing full Umbrella Corp gear.
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u/TriangleGalaxy France's whore 2d ago
No terrorist would ever do that
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u/Odious-Individual Alcoholic 2d ago
Well, maybe some will at some point if the police doesn't intervene. If we get used to seeing armed individuals but with SCP or whatever patches, we're definitely heading towards something terrible
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u/Phazon2000 ʇunↃ 2d ago
And the dude who shot up a theatre was dressed as the joker. What’s your point?
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u/parnaoia Thief 2d ago
according to Section 19 of the Firearms Act 1968 it's an offense (sorry Barry, I spell the Hank way) to be in possession of an imitation firearm.
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u/TankSwan North West England 2d ago
It's crazy to think they still sell those plastic toy guns, I saw some last year being sold at a bonfire display of all places.
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u/Medium_Banana4074 South Prussian 2d ago
The battle at stamford bridge. I remembered it differently.
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u/HugePatFenis Barry, 63 2d ago
Me too. What a game.
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u/DonChaote Snow Gnome 2d ago
Did they kiss at the end? Ended too soon
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u/zacharymc1991 Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
What the fuck did he think was going to happen.
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u/Constant-Ad-7189 Professional Rioter 2d ago
Maybe being politely asked what he's doing since nothing about his behaviour indicates he is an immediate (or even potential) threat ?
I sometimes fence outside, and if police happen to ask us what's going on, they don't play rambo by tackling first and asking questions later.
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u/Lidlpalli Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Not worth the risk, he had a pistol on his hip. Thats good police work on show
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
What risk? There were three police officers there to make the arrest, they approached from behind and had the complete element of surprise.
Even if the guy had attempted to pull his (fake) gun on them, they would have still had the upper hand and could have neutralized the threat before the guy even could have gotten the gun from his hip.
This isn't Call of Duty or some videogame, these lads are being paid with taxpayer money to protect and serve the public and the only thing they've achieved is make a big fucking embarrassment of themselves and the whole police force.
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u/WhiskeyQuiver Thinks he lives on a mountain 2d ago
What risk?
Easy to say from behind a screen. Risk is in the eye of the beholder. The police estimated it different from you there in the moment.
This isn't Call of Duty
Yes because 1 fired gunshot can be fatal. In more savage places the police would've just gunned him down to mitigate that risk. Here they at worst caused some bruises. Still sucks but hey...
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
There is no country in the world where the police gun you down for carrying a plastic replica of a pistol or a real pistol.
That is so divorced from reality that I have to question if you've ever left your windmill Jan.
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u/SimplyLaggy European 2d ago
have you NOT seen America?
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
No, this isn't legal in America either.
If you're talking about it happening illegally, then congratulations, you have successfully missed the point.
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u/mynameisnotrose Siesta Enjoyer (lazy) 2d ago
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u/Lidlpalli Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
The risk of a pistol being fired in public
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
If three trained police officers can't mitigate the risk of a weapon being discharged in public, then the officers should be fired or sent back to basic training.
Firearms are far from uncommon in a metropolis like London, so if the local police force is unable to deal with a recurrent danger like this, then the police force is unfit to protect the public and should be reformed.
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u/DeHarigeTuinkabouter Daddy's lil cuck 2d ago edited 2d ago
They did mitigate the risk. In a very decisive manner at minimal risk to themselves and bystanders and at no real harm to the person breaking the law.
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
If that boy had been a real terrorist, then all of those three blokes would be dead, including a heap of civilians.
The infamous London police force is only proficient at terrorizing law abiding citizens.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
...seems like they are successfully protectimg the public to me
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
Believe it or not, but cosplayers are also members of the public.
Assaulting a member of the public without even having questioned him on a flimsy justification of "he might have been carrying a weapon on his hip" is so far removed from protecting the public that not even sending it through the channel tunnel would be enough to cover the distance.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
I hope for your sake you're trolling
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
I am not "trolling" when it comes to a clear display of police brutality by the infamous London police force.
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u/ConceptOfHappiness Barry, 63 2d ago
Because even if he is a real threat killing the guy (probably, because he might be really quick on the draw) is not the preferred outcome. The ideal outcome is an arrest.
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
Neutralizing the threat does not mean killing him.
Neutralizing the threat does also not mean shooting him.
Shooting him does not mean killing him.
You can still arrest a man after you have questioned him.
"Arrest first, ask questions later" is exactly the kind of savagery that we make fun of the yanks for, so praising the Bobbies for it is just blatant freaking hypocrisy.
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u/DeHarigeTuinkabouter Daddy's lil cuck 2d ago
Neutralized him how? By asking him to hand him their gun very slowly? Why take the risk? And what do you do if he makes a sudden move? Shoot him?
Would love to hear how you see a scenario like that play out. Even if they are standing very close to him, the risk of him getting the gun out or escaping for just a moment simply is present. He doesn't even have to raise the gun for it to be incredibly dangerous.
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
Obviously they would have to ask for his license first.
Next they would need to ask for the license for showing them a license.
A quick check of the Firearms Act of 1968 would need to be done, to make sure that all replica guns in his possession are legal.
Lastly they would need to ask him to state his intentions for bringing a replica gun into the public, as to make sure his motivations coform with the Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2006.
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u/Nordalin Thinks he lives on a mountain 2d ago
Do you pack sidearms when fencing?
Are you dressed like 'murican school shooters when fencing?
Do you fence in the middle of crowded streets?
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u/Bubbly-War1996 South Macedonian 2d ago edited 2d ago
And how often do you see criminals casually walking around in full tactical gear and guns in full view?
Yeah, because if I wanted to harm someone I would definitely walk casually along all those not concerned citizens to do it and I would definitely not try to conceal my presence and to avoid attention.
The Internet has killed any common sense left in this world.
Anyways, I want to congratulate the British police once again for making all other police forces look better and more logical! At least he wasn't shot, that's something actually good.
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u/toughfluffer South East England 2d ago
Stavros, with all due respect mate, this is moronic. Are we supposed to ignore someone who obviously looks like they're going to shoot people?
Are the police supposed to look at this guy and say: "nah that's too obvious"?
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u/Bubbly-War1996 South Macedonian 2d ago edited 2d ago
Of course not, I'm just saying that if there is a convention where a lot of people go dressed as armed characters from different forms of media nearby, maybe they should be a bit more discreet and not act as if he was actively pointing a "potential weapon" at random people.
Yeah sure i might be over reacting but if you remove the headgear I've seen private security with very gun looking stun guns look almost like that. Does the police also tackle those people every time they see them or they just ask for their papers.
Even the guy calling them said it's probably nothing! Like a duffle bag is just as suspicious but I bet you would find it a bit odd if the police started tackling every duffle bag having pedestrian.
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u/FaustRPeggi Anglophile 2d ago
Your brain has been rotted by the American ACAB discourse.
This is definitely a "restrain the suspect first, make sure they're not a threat after" situation. Better one person has an unpleasant afternoon than risk a mass slaughter.
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u/Bubbly-War1996 South Macedonian 2d ago
Maybe my southern European brain cannot comprehend police doing their job and giving a fuck about people's concerns compared to the "we'll get to it" attitude I've seen around here. At least British police are properly trained and they handle arrests properly.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
...they are doing their job? Why are you acting like they shot him?!
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u/Vast_Emergency Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
>And how often do you see criminals casually walking around in full tactical gear and guns in full view?
If you're on the ground as a police officer you don't get a chance to question, you just assume the worst and this guy almost certainly was called in by someone. In a Marauding Terror Attack (MTA) the perpetrators will often wear tactical gear and they usually try to get as close to their target as possible before attacking, you may have only seconds to act.
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u/I_ALWAYS_UPVOTE_CATS Barry, 63 2d ago
nothing about his behaviour indicates he is an immediate (or even potential) threat
Apart from that really tiny part where he's walking round a crowded area carrying what looks like a handgun.
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u/Withering_to_Death Side switcher 2d ago
fencing
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u/Gladwulf Barry, 63 2d ago
It's not gay.
It's just two men, face to face, their weapons ready and proud, each anticipating the other's moves, waiting to pounce on any opening. Bouncing up and down, and back and forth, their breaths become laboured, they groan with each exertion, both seeking that climatic thrust.
Pure manly sport, I am sure.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
I sometimes fence outside, and if police happen to ask us what's going on, they don't play rambo by tackling first and asking questions later.
So they don't bother you when you're not carrying imitation firearms, but they do bother people who are? So curious
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
Classic case of play stupid games, win stupid prices. With the exception of Switzerland there is no place in Europe where you can walk around in the center of a city carriying a gun.
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u/Bragzor Quran burner 2d ago
Longyearbyen maybe. Stretching "city" though.
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
Fair enough, but I assume it would be hunting rifles and not fully automatic military issued assault rifles lol.
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u/Double_A_92 Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
I was actually exactly expecting military issues rifles in Switzerland, since soldiers are supposed to take their rifle home.
Was a bit weird during Uni exams, where they requested hours off from their military training to write the exam, but they had to take their gun with them. So half the class had like a rifle or pistol on their desk. xD
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
Well good thing he wasn't carrying a "fully automatic military issued assault rifles".
Or even an imitation of one.
He was carrying the cosplay pistol on his hip and the cosplay machine pistol (as would be carried by Private Security Firms and Police, not the Military or Private Military Contractors) in his bag on his back, not even visible from the outside.
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u/Flagship_Panda_FH81 Barry, 63 2d ago
Apologies, this isn't a dig - what is the point you're making?
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
The point is that most people wouldn't have even spotted the cosplay weapons the guy was carrying, but the comment above makes it sound like he was armed to the teeth.
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u/Flagship_Panda_FH81 Barry, 63 2d ago
Nevertheless it was spotted and called in though.
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
Upon which the officers sent to respond to the report should have questioned the young man about the weapon, would have found it to be a non-functional replica gun which conforms to the FIrearms act of 1968 and questioned him as to his motives for carrying the replica gun (in this case going to comic con) to ascertain whether he is in violation of the Violent Crimes Reduction Act of 2006, found this to not be the case and could have released him back to the public without a worry.
That this incident has not transpired the way I have described is a testament to the unprofessional nature of the London police force and their inability to handle ACTUAL threats to the public.
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u/Fashish Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
It's nice that you're expecting a casual stop and "Oi! you got a loicense for that mate?" scenario here from the bobbies, but in this day and age of unhinged, unpredictable behaviour from people on the street, I don't mind the way the situation was handled in the end, especially seeing as how no one was seriously hurt.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Are you an American in disguise? People can't carry guns in the UK
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u/poop-machines Anglophile 2d ago edited 2d ago
Barry I know you're probably 12 beers deep by now, but if you scroll up a little, you'll see they're no longer talking about the UK but Svalbard, the place where polar bears can break into your house.
So there you need guns.
And they are completely legal there.
You see people in the streets of Longyearbyen, Norway (Svalbard) carrying pistols and rifles. So they were saying there you can carry them.
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u/Bobsempletonk Sheep lover 2d ago
Nah this Hans is all over the thread trying to pass this off as excessive force.
As it happens I've lost count of the drinks I've had mush.
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
People CAN carry gun replicas in the UK, if they: 1.) can not be converted to fire real ammunition 2.) are clearly marked as a replica via the bright orange tip 3.) you have a valid excuse as to why you were carrying the replica in public (in this case going to comic con).
The 16 year old fulfilled all three requirements for lawfully carrying a replica gun in public in the UK.
I'm sorry that I know your laws better than you do Barry, it's a habit of mine that Hank hates just as much as you do.
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u/phonetune Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Lol at confidently making up laws of another country (plus the facts)
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u/AnonD38 [redacted] 2d ago
It is quite amusing to me that you believe I've made up the Firearms Act of 1968 and the Violent Crime Reduction Act of 2006, but no, they are in fact real and you can fact check me on this.
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u/WuWeiLife إرهابي 2d ago
Depends where you draw the line. There's plenty of AR-15's in Svalbard.
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
I just looked that up and it seems you are wrong.
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u/SJ-Urban Quran burner 2d ago
The Governor there states that any person leaving the towns area of safety must carry a firearm( for protection against polar bears). AR 15s are perfectly legal so it’s fair to assume that there’s more AR 15s there than other parts of the country.
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
From what I read military style guns are prohibited. People have hunting rifles and shotguns.
Shooting a polar bear with 5.56 would be a very bad idea btw.
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u/Zestyclose_Jello6192 Smog breather 2d ago
In Switzerland you can walk around carrying a gun? Like in Israel?
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u/Ulrik-the-freak Lesser German 2d ago
I honestly thought open carry was also a no-no, just that most people have guns at home
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u/Zestyclose_Jello6192 Smog breather 2d ago
Yeah I know that you can keep your rifle from mandatory military service after you're done
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u/Ulrik-the-freak Lesser German 2d ago
it's more than that, it's very, very easy to buy firearms in Switzerland, and ownership is basically not regulated. from 25 to 50 guns per 100 inhabitants (the wide range of estimates should tell you a lot about the very liberal nature of their gun laws lol)
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u/realiDevil360 Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
This just proves you know nothing about gun laws in Switzerland
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u/SwissBloke Alpine Parisian 2d ago
Actually he's not wrong, it's indeed very easy to buy a gun in Switzerland
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u/realiDevil360 Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
Ownership not being regulated is plain wrong, the fact alone that we are one of the top countries with most guns per capita and yet one of the lowest gun deaths per capita proves that our gun regulations work, if done by people with more than 3 brain cells. Im personally pretty anti-gun when it comes to debates wether people should be allowed to own guns for sport, but Im still glad to live in a safe country like ours, even though its not perfect
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u/SwissBloke Alpine Parisian 2d ago edited 2d ago
Well, the Swiss Weapons Act actually has only one policy in regards to ownership:
Any person who has lawfully acquired a weapon or an essential or specially designed weapon component is authorised to possess the same.
Our gun regulations are not that different from those of the US (carry regulations aside). We have laxer background checks and guns that are banned there are accessible to civilians here
In the US possession is actually regulated and you can get your ownership right removed, which doesn't legally exists in Switzerland
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u/Ulrik-the-freak Lesser German 1d ago
Thank you. Someone was confidently wrong on the internet again.
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u/Asatas Speed Talker 2d ago
Not really, at least not in urban areas. Mountain Retos can be weird but even there's it's not super common.
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u/SwissBloke Alpine Parisian 2d ago
Well I've seen plenty in Geneva, but it's true that it has been less and less due to the current climate (and influx of foreigners)
Still, every once in a while there's a post on Switzerland or askswitzerland because a foreigner saw someone transporting a gun
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u/Jumbo-box South East England 2d ago
Weird, mountain Hans isn't stealing land or ethnically cleansing, why would they need to walk around openly carrying?
Maybe to stop Toblerone being full sized again?
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
It's just to prevent the pesky Germans from trying something funny. Kind of an old tradition- we were always surrounded by war mongering lunatics.
Not everyone is öucky enough to be surrounded by the sea.
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u/Double_A_92 Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
You can (or have to) if you are coming from or going to military training. It's not uncommon to see young men with assault rifles in public.
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u/Saxit Quran burner 2d ago
Transporting firearms, unloaded, can look like this: https://imgur.com/a/transport-open-carry-switzerland-LumQpsc
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u/Haxorzist Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
But I believe you would need to larp as Swiss army or it wouldn't end too well.
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u/misterya1 Basement dweller 2d ago
If you're a civilian, dont you need a permit to open carry in Switzerland? In which case it's the same as a number of other European countries.
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u/Objective-Ad7394 Retired Mafia Boss 2d ago
It's quite funny that every one is talking about "open carry". how are you supposed to conceal carry your rifle? Under your t-shirt? Potentially in a backpack but if I saw a barell sticking out of a backpack I'd actually be concerned- asking myself whether this person is trying to hide a rifle. What you guys actually mean is carrying a firearm in general, which is illegal in most countries- and in Switzerland too. At least without the proper license (Waffentragschein) which only security personnel with a special need (e.g. people who transport money) get.
What makes Switzerland different then? Not much, actually. With the exception that people have to be able to get their guns to the shooting range for the shooting exercise. Lots of people go there with public transport so that's how you sometimes see civilians with assault rifles in a bus or train or walking through the main station in Zurich.
Well, and the fact militia members get to take their guns.
There are lots of bullshit facts about Swiss gun laws online, especially about ammunition. The government stopped handing out ammunition (Taschenmunition) some years ago but you can still legally and without a license buy ammunition.
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u/MIBlackburn Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
I've been to UK Comic Cons, it is common to see the complete lack of social cues some atendees have.
I've seen someone open up the packaging for a real sword on a crowded DLR train is one example.
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u/godmademelikethis Anglophile 2d ago
People attending comic cons lack social skills you say?
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u/MIBlackburn Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Not seen many Hans at them, seen and heard some Jans, probably the highest per capita for foreign visitors.
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u/Jumbo-box South East England 2d ago
Hans generally goes to The Tank Museum to gaze wistfully at their past and stand in the fucking middle.
Move out of the way
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u/godmademelikethis Anglophile 1d ago
Give Hans a break. He's just astonished the transmission on the Tiger actually works for once.
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u/Sure_Fruit_8254 South East England 2d ago
Some of those people don't see daylight very often never mind walk around city centres.
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u/MIBlackburn Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Certainly not soap and deodorant. Seriously, if you're buying an imported figure, you can afford some Radox and Lynx or something. The worst is when they smell like that coming off a train at Kings Cross before it has even started.
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u/Complex_Biscotti8205 Sheep lover 2d ago
Sorry but he's stupid as fuck thinking it's acceptable walking around like that
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u/Captaingregor Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
Comic con website literally says to keep all prop weapons in a bag, so absolutely no sympathy for this moron
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u/beleg_cuth Murciano (doesn’t exist) 2d ago
I wish police were this professional with other types of people carrying knifes or invading someone else's houses
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u/IEC21 Anglophile 2d ago
It should be common sense you can't go around in a "costume" that makes you look convincingly like a paramilitary soldier who probably has illegal firearms. So dumb.
Only Americans would think this is normal.
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u/SmokingLimone Pickpocket 2d ago
I wonder if the convention has places to change their clothes. Not justifying this but it's so people don't think of walking like that to the convention because there isn't another way.
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u/kirkbywool Failed Brexiteer 1d ago
Toilets exist. Alao from another comment here official advice is to put any weapons etc in a bag until in the con itself
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u/Koffieslikker Flemboy 2d ago
Don't carry fake guns unless they are clearly fake... Some people are just idiots
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u/HerrFerret Irishman in Denial 2d ago
Was that a PCSO in the fray as well?
That's like a copper that catches littering and rude behaviour.
He probably sat on the guy and went 'well today got quite interesting didn't it now chaps'
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u/Withering_to_Death Side switcher 2d ago
Even weebs are not safe anymore! What is this world coming to?! Smh....
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u/LWDJM Barry, 63 2d ago
Me when I spray paint a gun to look more realistic and then take it out in public and the police are hostile
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u/Withering_to_Death Side switcher 2d ago
Maybe next time he should try screaming something in Swedish
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u/DerDude34 Crypto-Albanian 2d ago
Just came across a post about the Uvalde shooting — over 370 cops were on site and not a single one did a damn thing...
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u/TheMike0088 Basement dweller 2d ago
As someone who frequented the odd comic- or anime con, I don't get the trend of dressing up in tactical gear for them at all.
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u/SmoothCarl22 Western Balkan 2d ago
Lol to be fair...he could be any nut job.
Replica guns are a problematic subject. What point do you know they are not the real deal?! Colour is not even a good idea, cause you can paint normal guns as well.
An idea would be just dont carry any replica guns on display and ffs how hard it would be to out most of the gear on site?!
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u/Ok-Perspective-8123 Barry, 63 2d ago edited 2d ago
LBC detected, farage cocksuckers ignored. Cunts
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u/barryhakker Heineken Piss Drinker 2d ago
What kind of fucking retard do you have to be to walk around like that in public lmao
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u/Savage-September London Wanker 2d ago
Since 9/11….dressing like this no joke in london. We’ve seen our share of terrorism. This isn’t a joke. They don’t Fuck about in london. Consider where you are what you look like. Nothing is a joke.
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u/andyd151 Sheep lover 2d ago
“I’m sure it’s nothing but”
Proceeds to describe a man with a gun
Interesting
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u/kirkbywool Failed Brexiteer 1d ago
British understatement but also probably due to seeing it in full costume so have to get it phoned in
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u/Gandalfr87 Side switcher 2d ago
They saved the world from Umbrella, Leon, Chris, Jill and Claire can rest this time.
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u/tomlojoda Thinks Kapsalon tastes good 2d ago
It's well known among the tactical cosplay community that you should only gear up at the venue, and never leave in full oufit, ESPECIALLY with your prop gun(s). this is the exact reason why.
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u/dj_ordje Gambling addict 2d ago
"I'm sure it's nothing" is how every major fuckup starts
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u/kirkbywool Failed Brexiteer 1d ago
Tbh just British understatement.
In the Korean war it led to 650 British soldiers facing off against 10,000 Chinese soldiers as the american commandee didnt get the nuance of British English
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u/Signal_Confusion_644 Drug Trafficker 2d ago
Yeah well... In this case i understand the cops. You cant take the Risk today.
"Con" assistants should be aware of this...
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u/Hqjjciy6sJr Side switcher 2d ago
Mission accomplished. He wanted to look intimidating. People got intimidated and called the police.
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u/kirkbywool Failed Brexiteer 1d ago
Tbf nobody rang the police, was a cctv operator calling it in. Add in the fact that it was same time and place as chelsea played Fulham so of course police will take no chances (even if it was chelsea fans)
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u/norrin83 Pumpkin Addict 2d ago
I was afraid for the red circle operator when it vanished in the middle, but I think they are OK. The red circle reappeared in the end.
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u/Sleepy-Mount Anglophile 2d ago
Tbf, you arent allowed thing that represent guns in comic con anyway. They have to be a certain volour iirc in order to bring a prop gun to comic con
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u/SmokingLimone Pickpocket 2d ago
Do you mean they need to have bright caps? I assumed that was standard practice.
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u/Adept_Mouse_7985 Barry, 63 2d ago edited 2d ago
This might be normal street attire in some of the less civilised colonies but here it’s a great way to end up getting shot. Still, no one got hurt and he’s got a good story to tell about his cosplay so overall credit to the popo.
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u/DeadAssociate Heineken Piss Drinker 2d ago
im sure his mum would love to hear the story over and over again
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u/tutike2000 Thief 2d ago
Suspicion of being in possession of IMMITATION firearms.
That is wild.
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u/Kexxa420 Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
The thing is, if you have a legal defence it’s ok, and attending a comic con and cosplaying likely would have been his legal defence to carry an imitation firearm. The problem he how he decided to carry it.
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u/cocoelgato Balcony jumper 2d ago
Persecuting pedofile rapist gangs would be a waste of time.
Arresting teenagers at comic con and moms for being angry about the aforementioned gangs posting angry comments on facebook seems much more appropriate.
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u/Adept_Platform176 Barry, 63 2d ago
He's not at comic con he's in the middle of a city center
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u/cocoelgato Balcony jumper 2d ago
Its clearly cosplay.
So you now want to censor a dress code unless its the futanari stuff you enjoy?
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u/YanielleReddit South East England 2d ago
Our police are adept at manhandling young nerds and expecting a pat on the back for their "service"
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u/PlanAutomatic2380 Beastern European 2d ago
Time to sue
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u/PepitoMagiko Professional Rioter 2d ago
American in disguise spotted. Any judge will overule the case.
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u/saxonturner Barry, 63 2d ago
Absolutely no chance he could, police had plenty of suspicion that it was real. Just imagine if this was the other way around.
“We seen the fellow but thought it was a fake gun so we left it, sorry he shot 5 people”
Open carry is not a thing at all in the U.K., they have to treat any gun that looks like a gun like it is a fucking gun just incase it’s a fucking gun. Completely acceptable response by the coppers.
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u/PlanAutomatic2380 Beastern European 2d ago
This is why they’re ruined your country mate 👏 now they can just bully people on the streets but not those that go around and stab children to death
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u/saxonturner Barry, 63 2d ago
Bully people carrying what looks like firearms? Sorry, but you are a fucking idiot.
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u/Cakeo Anglophile 2d ago
Country is ruined by not having to worry about people shooting me, and having one of the lowest death by knives etc in the world (if not the lowest).
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u/PlanAutomatic2380 Beastern European 2d ago
Maybe your country is not full of them yet but you need to have a trip to London to see what the future holds
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u/GodEmprahBidoof Barry, 63 2d ago
but not those that go around and stab children to death
In this video you are seeing the actions of brave police officers who believe they have seen a person with a gun (more deadly than a knife) heading towards a crowd of ~40k people. They fully believe the suspect may be planning to shoot children to death. I'm quite happy we have police like these
Bonus points: because they're not US thugs, their first thought was not to open fire, but to apprehend and de-escalate. Then, finding out he's just a comic con attendee, they can release him with a warning rather than a coffin (and coffins for the multiple passers-by who may be hit by stray bullets)
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u/Adept_Platform176 Barry, 63 2d ago
Man dressed in tactical gear with a gun and somehow he's the victim
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u/Neon_20 Digital nomad 2d ago
I'm sorry, mate, but you've been so brainwashed by your country that you think it's acceptable to arrest first and ask questions later.
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u/arrowintheknees Barry, 63 2d ago
this was before the Chelsea v Fulham game, right outside Stamford Bridge. there was just under 40k people attending the game and who knows how many around the stadium. if the police saw someone carrying what looks like a gun towards a very large crowd, i would absolutely hope they detain them first before they get the chance to do anything stupid
there are instances where arrest first, question later is a good policy, and i reckon anything to do with a gun is one of those instances
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u/Neon_20 Digital nomad 2d ago
The problem is that this kind of reaction is the by-product of fear, fear of terrorist incidents. Should a person cosyplaying as a killer clown or D'Artangan with plastic sword get jumped and arrested, too?
That’s not “public safety,” that’s a society where people are trained to expect the worst from each other and where cosplay, art, or even eccentric behavior is criminalised just in case
The fact this happened outside a football match isn’t proof of good policing it’s proof of how much we’ve let terrorism and fear dictate our everyday freedoms.
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u/Vast_Emergency Failed Brexiteer 2d ago
I don't think you'd find any reasonable police force or general public disagreeing that the police can arrest on reasonable suspicion of an offence.
Regardless in this case it isn't even suspicion, an offense has been observed. Legally it is acceptable to arrest with reasonable grounds under the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (PACE), reasonable grounds in this case being a possible offence had been committed or was being committed (carrying an imitation firearm). Again I don't think you'd find anyone disagreeing with that.
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u/kirkbywool Failed Brexiteer 1d ago
Yeo. I got arrested years ago by mistaken identity. Was in a bad and bouncer called me over and said he wanted a word, said whats going on and he daid nothing judt need a word then 2 other bouncers came over. Walked out with them and 2 police were there and I got put in car. Got arrested for gbh and was asking what was going on. Told me I knew what I had done but they let me text my mates who I ess with and all I got back was jokes about salting some fish and chips as thought I was joking.
After 15 mins a girl came to the car ans told police I wasnt the guy. Got an apology and official noticed saying I had been de arrested. One of the coppers escorted me back to bar and again apologised and bouncer also apologised and I got a free drink.
Turns out in a bar a few doors down a guy had got his face smashed in with a glass, and the guys girlfriend saw me and said I was the attacker. Police obvs followed it up and told the bouncers. Was only when one of the other girls saw me in the car they told the police it wasnt me.
Strange night in fairness
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u/Bearodon Quran burner 5h ago
I dressed up as a bank robber for halloween one year. I was younger then the guy in the video but I still knew not to carry a fake weapon to town.
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u/Bragzor Quran burner 2d ago
Looks like an Umbrella Corporation goon, so justified.