r/ACMilan • u/AutoModerator • 4d ago
Thursday Discussion Thread
Great place for team discussion/whatever Serie A related topics you would like to bring up. Examples: Transfers, rumors, players from other teams, things you miss about the old days etc. Whatever you want as long as it isn't too off-topic.
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u/Cousin_Vinny97 Andriy Shevchenko 4d ago
Hoping Gattuso does well on his debut with the national team and can make the boys plays with pride once again.
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u/anton_d66 3d ago
Honestly, with all of the shit going on in the club, I just want to enjoy cheering for the team. Kinda makes me miss the whole banter era, yeah, we were bad, but the fanbase made it all worth it.
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u/serafale Christian Pulisic 3d ago
Been on this sub for probably over 10 years at this point, and it’s sad seeing how negative it’s gotten over the years. Obviously we all want better for the club, but this animosity is not healthy. I think things were better amongst the fan base when it was just those of us in here during the banter era, because at least we all knew we were struggling and it was accepted without all this contempt.
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u/anton_d66 3d ago
I attribute it to the fact that it felt like “our” team. Like we were ass, but they were our players, now it feels like a hostile entity is controlling things, it’s harder to get emotionally invested
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u/serafale Christian Pulisic 3d ago
That’s fair, it feels more corporate now. Still being owned by Berlusconi helped with that too; though a controversial figure, he was a part of the Milan fabric for so long that now it just feels like the club has an unknown identity. Would be great if we were fan-owned.
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u/clarinetstud Mike Maignan 4d ago
I miss being a kid and idolizing Pato man those were simpler times
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u/serafale Christian Pulisic 3d ago
I miss the days of thinking we were set for life when El Shaarawy and Balotelli were up top (never was big on Niang even back then to be honest).
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u/mercurialsaliva 3d ago
I remember in 2005 losing to Liverpool then saying ah it's ok we'll win one in the next few years.
Would have never imagined that 2007 would be pretty much the last time we'd make a final in almost 20 years and counting
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u/4thelolzz01 David Odogu 3d ago
David Odogu's press conference made me change my flair. Hope this kid succeeds because he seems like a really nice and humble guy
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u/Sea-Ad-6496 Mario Balotelli 3d ago edited 3d ago
Just watched David Odogu’s presentation, the guy seems so excited and full of joy for having joined the team, spoke very maturely too and was quite confident. I wish him all the best, might not be a name on anyone’s radar but he is getting comparison’s to Rudiger and could really turn out to be a Thiaw like player.
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u/Soft-Associate2201 Luka Modrić 3d ago
idk why you guys compare him to thiaw, its not the same situation at all. thiaw was a regular starter at schalke before we bought him.
if anything its more like kalulu.
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u/Sea-Ad-6496 Mario Balotelli 3d ago
The comparison is in terms of physicality and age, Kalulu didn’t win the U17 world cup for his country like David did, he was nowhere on the radar.
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u/jazzones Zlatan Ibrahimović 3d ago
Im pretty pessimistic guy myself but this sub and its comments are insane lately. So much negativity.
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u/milan_obsession Dopo Istanbul c'è Atene 3d ago
This is 100% true, but it's also true that there are tons of comments just talking about how negative it is, too, despite there being an entire thread dedicated to feedback on improving the sub yesterday.
Another way to change the level of negativity is to just fill this place with positivity. Create posts or start comment threads about positive subjects or what you want to discuss, reply and upvote other positive contributions.
You can't control other people's opinions or comments here, but you can be a positive force for change here if this is what you really want to see. Just an idea.
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u/milan_obsession Dopo Istanbul c'è Atene 4d ago
I am still hyperfocused on the issue with the Curva Sud, and Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, a known Milan fan, keeps speaking up about it:
"I'd like all the fans, non-violent ones of course, to be able to cheer again. San Siro without the stands isn't San Siro. Keeping criminals, drug dealers, and hooligans out of stadiums for life, yes, but not allowing a flag, a scarf, a drum, or microphones for chants into the stadium, no.
AC Milan at home without its fans isn't AC Milan, just like Inter and the other teams. I hope the clubs have the will to kick out the violent ones, but without losing the most fervent and colorful support. Many come to San Siro to hear the chants, also because that year there wasn't much to see on the pitch; what was more interesting was what was seen off the pitch."
The irony of this statement being that he was notoriously photographed a few years back as clearly being well-acquainted with Luca Lucci, the former leader of the Curva Sud and the worst-of-the worst of the "criminals, drug dealers, and hooligans."
Salvini and Lucci in 2018 during the Curva's 50th anniversary celebration
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u/h0lyshadow Rui Costa 3d ago
Just fyi but probably already know, Salvini is a blatant liar and corrupted idiot. Pretty sure he takes money for cremlin propaganda in Italy too
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u/milan_obsession Dopo Istanbul c'è Atene 3d ago
Exactly. The pot calling the kettle black.
But still, like most fans, he wants the Curva Sud back. No idea if his "political weight" is helpful or harmful to the cause.
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u/h0lyshadow Rui Costa 3d ago
I don't think our owners give a shit about Italian politics. They want a different kind of stadium, Curva isn't profitable but most importantly the generic tifoso doesn't complain while Curva can be loud, very loud
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u/milan_obsession Dopo Istanbul c'è Atene 3d ago
Yeah, by political weight, I was speaking more of the combined authorities - the anti-mafia people, local prosecutor, police, etc., who are also part of this.
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u/anton_d66 3d ago
Salvini is a notorious sycophant, liar and clown. Honestly, an ugly trash of a politician, but hopefully this is one of the rare occasions where interests align and he pushes for something. But honestly, don’t hang on Salvini’s words
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u/This-Search-8627 Ardon Jashari 4d ago
It all seems like a very bad attempt on dividing the curva from within, making them almost ‘abandon’ the criminals in order to make a deal with the club for the ‘good ones’ at least.
Which on paper is not the worst thing to do if you want to clean the house, but the way they’re going around it is so bad.
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u/milan_obsession Dopo Istanbul c'è Atene 4d ago
It's not, though. The blacklisted people are not criminals, they just protested against the club/management. They are still allowed to buy season tickets elsewhere, just not in the Curva Sud. Although they can buy tickets for individual matches in the Curva Sud, if they are available. They're not criminals, they just protested against Gerald. And the Curva are 100% standing in solidarity with them. As are other Ultras now, too.
It's not about criminals. It's about the shift of power.
The clubs are trying to silence anyone who speaks out against them. They want complete control over the stadium so no one complains when they raise ticket prices, or kick out the vendors, or whatever nefarious things they plan to do next. Organized fans are very problematic for "monetizing the fans."
The local authorities... the good guys genuinely have a lot less work if opposing fans are not gathering like this in the stadiums and traveling around the country. The corrupt ones are those with mafia ties or whatever who are trying to gain access/money/power in the stadium as the criminals have been kicked out. But who polices them? (the answer is no one.) The police in Italy can be worse criminals than the Ultras, FYI in terms of violence and corruption.
Meanwhile, the other 95%+ of the Ultras who are genuinely there to enjoy the friendships they've made and be part of this amazing thing called organized support - chants, flags, banners, making the best coreografia in the world... they are being punished (as are the team and rest of the world) because our ownership doesn't want anyone to say mean things about them in the stadium.
If you saw and heard the traveling Curva Sud vs. Lecce & the way they sang to our team, especially after the win, and contrast it with our eery, grey, silent home matches, where all you could hear were the away fans, you'll get it.
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u/DESZANTOS44 Ricardo Kaká 4d ago
I’m still bummed no one took Adli. He’s a good guy, I want him to find a competitive new home where he’d enjoy playing while getting paid. I’m even confused why no one took him, based on his Milan/Fiorentina games, he should be a good fit for a mid-to lower level Serie A team and also League 1. He’s French, doesn’t take up a non-EU spot and while we were usually asking for around 10M, I’m sure if a suitor he fancies came in, we would accept a smaller bid just to get him off the books. I understand why teams don’t come in for Benna (injury history+large salary), but Adli, no
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u/Sea_Condition5586 4d ago
It’s not true that no one wants him. He refused to move
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u/DESZANTOS44 Ricardo Kaká 4d ago
Qatar, Russia and Saudi were the only ones that expressed real interest in signing him with a proper bid. All the other clubs (Sassoulo, PL, etc) either never really materialized, or wouldn’t have paid even as low 6-7M for him (Sassoulo). That’s why I said “a competitive new home where he’d enjoy playing”, I’m not faulting someone for refusing a move to Quatar or Russia when he’s capable of playing in one of the top leagues, just not at the top level. Even Fiorentina wanted to exercise the option initially, before the coach situation prevented them.
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u/BredIN919 Theo Hernández 3d ago
Overall we walked away with Nkunku being Santi’s sub !!! Could be much much worse !!!!
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u/SaintFonziThe2nd Ricardo Kaká 4d ago
All I'm gonna say is.. forza milan ❤️ yall can disagree but i really mean it 🥹