r/Abkhazia • u/Capital-Wrongdoer-62 • 8d ago

How History is taught in Abkhazia?

In georgia we are taught that Apsua North Caucasian people came from mountains to abkhaz land in 15th- century when georgia was fractured and weak. Main argument is that Abkhaz kingdom was feudal already in 9th century while Apsua in 19th century russia are still in tribal system. And also their is no sign of etnic or language difference in abkazia before 15th- century

Just want to know what you think about it and what you are taught. And what are you arguments. Not to fight or say that i am right you are wrong.

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u/Rafsit 8d ago

"Abasgoi - Wikipedia" https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abasgoi#:~:text=The%20Abasgoi%20or%20Abasgians%20(Ancient,however%20suppressed%20the%20Abasgian%20revolt.&text=By%20the%206th%20century%20Abasgia,name%20%C2%ABabasgi%2C%20abaza%C2%BB.

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u/Grouchy_Detective880 8d ago

Don't understand me incorrectly, but I don't think Wikipedia can be considered as "original source". Wikipedia isn't a collection of scientific articles that can be quoted or used as proof, as anyone can edit it as they wish. My lecturer of History got veeery angry when he saw articles from Wikipedia used as references to something (we weren't even from History or a similar faculty).

When I commented, I expected lines from the books of Strabo or Pliny the Elder:)

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u/Rafsit 8d ago

Geographical Position Modern Location: Dioscuria is located at the site of present-day Sukhumi (also known as Sokhumi or Aqwa in Abkhaz), the capital of the disputed region of Abkhazia. Abkhazia is internationally recognized by most countries as part of Georgia but has been de facto independent since the 1992–1993 Abkhazian War, with Russian support. The coordinates of the site are approximately 43°0'N, 41°1'E. Historical Placement: It lay at the eastern extremity of the Euxine Sea (ancient name for the Black Sea), near the mouth of the small river Anthemus (modern-day Gumista River) or Charus, just north of the ancient kingdom of Colchis (associated with the myth of the Golden Fleece). Ancient sources describe it as about 100 Roman miles (or 790 stadia) northwest of the Phasis River (modern Rioni River) and 2,260 stadia from Trapezus (modern Trabzon, Turkey). The city was surrounded by estuaries, swamps, and deltas of rivers like the Gumista and Basla (Besletka), making it a natural port but vulnerable to coastal erosion.

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u/Mikheil3004 8d ago

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/D%27Anville._Carte_huil%C3%A9e_de_la_G%C3%A9orgie_et_de_l%27Arm%C3%A9nie.XVIIIe_si%C3%A8cle.jpg

And why does today's territory belong to you, when almost the entire present-day Abkhazia belonged to the Mengrelian? You see, that's the problem. Up to Anakopia, everything already belonged to the Georgians. There are many old maps where you can clearly see that Anakopia was Georgia or Mengrelia!