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u/yellowlinedpaper 17d ago
There are women who think men owe them emotional support? What does that look like?
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u/O_O--ohboy 17d ago
Lol right. emotional support isn't really something you can force someone to give like how sex can be forced.
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u/Noizylatino 17d ago
Nah you can some parents do it to kids all the time by using them as therapists. That or the emotional incest you see with Boy Moms
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u/yellowlinedpaper 17d ago
You’re right, so what does it look like with women expecting men to be emotional support and then blaming men for being selfish for not providing it?
Like I can imagine a woman saying to her partner I’m not having sec with you until you support me emotionally. But how does that look like if they’re not partnered up?
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u/O_O--ohboy 17d ago
Yes. Also in partnered relationships it's not the same as a child who is dependant on a parent. Ideally these are two adults who can leave a situation rather than a child who has no options. Kind of apples to oranges.
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u/MrLizardBusiness 17d ago
I don't think it's owed, but in the context of a romantic relationship, it's at least expected.
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u/yellowlinedpaper 17d ago
Yes, I can imagine a woman saying to her partner ‘I’m not having sex with you because you haven’t been supporting me emotionally’, but how does that look like to the general population.
The image here seems to imply it’s not a romantic relationship. I’m not a man and I know they deal with things I don’t, so I’m genuinely curious
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u/MrLizardBusiness 14d ago
Yeah, I don't know. Emotional support is the basis of friendship, so I guess there are men out there who think they're "investing" emotional support into relationships that'll never "pay out" in sex. Which is gross.
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u/yellowlinedpaper 14d ago
Ahhhh yes this makes sense! Because women aren’t worth being around unless they’re going to get some
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u/Ludate_Solem 17d ago
That subreddit is insane. Its just a bunch of cis men hating women and cis women hating men.
The men, hating women is obv the majority
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u/DomSchraa 17d ago
It has a few nuggets of gold hidden within mountains of dogshit
Its very funny from an outsiders perspective
(Also them calling etymology a soycuck is nothing but proving his point 💀💀💀💀💀)
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u/MSGinSC 16d ago
What did etymology do to deserve that?
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u/DomSchraa 16d ago
Deconstructed incelspeak
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u/MSGinSC 16d ago
I am even more confused, now.
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u/DomSchraa 15d ago
Just look at their top post of the month
Honestly be happy you dont understand it, ignorance is bliss in that regard
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u/ExystentyalCrysys 17d ago
READ: sex is the bargaining chip for any decent treatment from men. Ew.
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u/Fuck_you_pichael 17d ago
I would suggest that most straight men get more emotional support from their gfs than the other way around. They just dont tend to see the emotional support that they are given because they only see emotional support as when someone comforts you when you cry
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u/burning1rr 17d ago edited 16d ago
This is my understanding as well.
We (straight men) don't tend to establish other sources of emotional support. We rarely open up to our friends. We usually don't have therapists. We tend to expect our romantic partners to fulfill all of our emotional needs. We tend to expect emotional support from our partners, but we don't necessarily reciprocate. We often resent our partners for asking us to meet their emotional needs.
Obviously, I'm not trying to make excuses for this behavior. It's toxic.
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u/stilettopanda 17d ago
Many men don't emotionally support. And even with the ones that do, none of them have ever been able to hold a candle to my close friends.
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u/now_you_see 16d ago
Other than the sexist overtones & the fact that this train of though assumes women don’t have sex drives and men don’t have emotions, I agree with this. No one owes their partner anything but respect.
You must respect your partner and your agreed upon relationship outlines (monogamy/poly, sex before marriage etc) no matter what, but everything else is slowly built on the framework of your partnership.
If you care for someone you should want to support them and their needs where you can, but not every need can be met by every person. Both parties need to express their needs and their ability to meet the others needs.
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u/moutnmn87 17d ago
I see nothing wrong with the idea that both sexual and romantic relationships should be voluntary/enthusiastically desired by all parties. I don't get why this meme is a problem
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u/goddamn_slutmuffin 16d ago
Because the meme implies they are only saying those things to punish another party who they probably secretly do believe owes them something or else gets nothing from them ever.
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u/moutnmn87 16d ago edited 16d ago
who they probably secretly do believe owes them something or else gets nothing from them ever.
This attitude is indeed disturbingly common. I think this meme is an appropriate response. Everyone should be mindful of the fact that they are not owed love,emotional support,financial support or sex. It being fine to make a lack of any of those a deal breaker for your own romantic relationships doesn't mean that not offering them makes someone a terrible person. It is very common for people to perceive not being offered the kind of romance they desire as a wrong done to them by a bad person instead of simply recognizing that as an indicator of incompatibility. This way of thinking is seriously fucked up and in my opinion deserves a lot more pushback not less
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u/orangestar17 17d ago
How sad of a life one must live to think emotional support is given only when sex is given in return
Personally I feel like everyone should be emotionally supportive of others in general, but what do I know