r/AskBalkans • u/IAmBalkanac Bosnia & Herzegovina • 2d ago
Sports BiH and Serbia are out of EuroBasket. Your thoughts?
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u/LowCranberry180 Turkiye 2d ago
Sorry for both of them. Best of luck to Greece.
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u/Stverghame Serbia 2d ago
No.
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u/icancount192 Greece 2d ago
If we win Israel by 20 or more I'm buying everyone lunch on work on Monday
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia 2d ago
If you asked me yesterday if I’m willing to bet against Slovenia staying in Eurobasket the longest out of Ex-Yu countries… I would have been a poor man today.
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u/trippy_toads Slovenia 2d ago
You and me both my friend.
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia 2d ago
Damn… should we start believing? 😅
Or do we tell Serbia and Bosnia to hold the door on the plane?
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u/PlatinumState 2d ago
Hope you dudes win it all
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u/Ha55aN1337 Slovenia 2d ago
Thanks man. I’m watching right now and it’s a different team. Playing defense. Owning Italy so far. Sure 90% of points are by Luka, but damn…
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u/MagistarEFUNTZ Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
We are proud
We came without Musa,Garza and Castanade
37 year old Roberson carried hard
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
oh yes, the Bosnian Robertson gave everything for the pride of his country. You are not the only team but really hate the idea of naturalized players. still good fight!
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u/Educational-Goal3785 Serbia 2d ago
Hate that shit, good thing that Poland had 0 and Lloydovski carried.
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
haha same goes for them and most teams. i just saw this comment mentioning Roberson and wanted to rant.
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u/MagistarEFUNTZ Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
Giannis grandparents still can't point where is Greece
I support getting at least one naturalised player. It gives boost to local basketball. Same thing when South American gets their citizenship by tracing their greatgreatgreatgrandparents came from Italy, Spain or Portugal
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u/MagistarEFUNTZ Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
If you think that 2% of NBA gave shit for USA basketball team they would always find a way to play in qualifiers or FIBA world championship
But they fight for better contract
So did Roberson. He got bag from Cibona yesterday.
We got result he got bag
That is called free market
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
good for him. i am just saying is weird to watch a basketball game in the eurobasket with the 2 best players on the court being Americans. thats all
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u/MagistarEFUNTZ Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
You cant have two just one, Roberson was replacement for Castanade
Brothers Antetokounmpo and Dorsey are true Greek with their heritage tracing back to Sparta kings
Only difference between them is than one was born in country and another one wasn't
But they share the same and that is citizenship. America is built on the immigrants
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
i am talking about Roberson and Loyd on the polish side. Antetokounbo bothers grew up in greece, played basketball in greece and are greek. i dont know why you cant understand the difference. Dorsey has spent years playing basketball in greece and his grandpa is greek. (and tbh still not sure how to feel about this one)
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u/InfinitePractice9014 Albania 2d ago
Speaks the on whos National team is being carried by africans
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u/tragick693 2d ago
Giannis and his brothers were born and raised in Greece. They are Greeks of Nigerian descent. Before he was naturalized, Roberson probably wouldn't be able to point out Bosnia on a map.
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u/Local_Collection_612 2d ago
He got his Greek citzenship when he was 21years old in 2013 .So most of his lifetime he was not seen as a Greek by the Greek State. ‘Coincidental’ he went to the NBA in 2013 the same year he got his Greek citzenship. He is born in Greece, has a Greek citzenship so he is a Greek now. But you have absolutly no right criitcizing other countries for naturalising players.
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
Citizenship laws in Greece suck, agree. This is a different issue, bigger than basketball. Still i don't see the connection with naturalized players who have nothing to do with the country they are playing for.
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u/Zmaj_99 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
Yeah, they are Greeks now that they are successful. Like Mesut Özil once said: „When we win, I am German. When we lose, I am an immigrant.“ The same applies in this case. I bet that most Greeks wouldn‘t consider the Antetokounmpos as Greeks if they were ordinary citizens.
They also got their citizenship in 2013. If they didn‘t make it to the NBA they would most likely still be stateless until today.
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u/tokopadi Greece 2d ago
dude they are Greek. its not about race or color of skin. our team did the same with Walkup and i didn't like the decision.
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u/InfinitePractice9014 Albania 2d ago
Common, hes family lived there for years as clandestines, without papers. Only after he got discovered by an american coatch and they couldnt play him because he got not a shred of document, your country gave them not only papers but citizenship. When it swits you they are greeks, spare me this shit malakas!!
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u/-MrAnderson Greece 2d ago
But we are not talking about how their situation was handled by the Greek State, which was handled as you describe. We are talking about them vs naturalized ones. They aren't naturalized, and before getting their citizenship they hadn't stepped their foot in Nigeria.
Perhaps they weren't considered Greek citizens before getting the papers, but what where they if not Greeks?
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u/kostasnotkolsas Greece 2d ago
They are literally born and raised in Sepolia. Plus we have two EuroBasket trophies before them
What is Albania's sporting legacy?
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u/InfinitePractice9014 Albania 2d ago
He was born and raised as clandestine until he got discovered by americans at 21 years of age. I cant stand your hypocrisy people! You can use the trophies for anal stimulation!
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u/kostasnotkolsas Greece 2d ago
Yeah he had to wear a burqa when playing for Filathlitikos.
Stick to making eagle gestures, that's your sport.
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u/InfinitePractice9014 Albania 2d ago
Why, whats wrong with my hand gestures?! Your moma loves them 💦😙
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u/Kalypso_95 Greece 2d ago
You can compare this Robertson "Bosnian" guy with Walkup, a naturalised "Greek" player, not Giannis
I really hate when people make shitty analogies just to prove a point, at least be able to compare similar situations otherwise you don't look very smart, just biased
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u/InfinitePractice9014 Albania 1d ago
Tecnically the same, go and read the definition of naturalizzation. Your champion lived for 21 years in your country without residence because he got no papers. So he dindnt have the citizenship for long residency, neither for yus sangunis because he got no greek Blood, so for what??! To play for your national team, the same as the "bosnian". Now all of you are grabbing him for the balls like he achilles son. And the ones of you that more defend hes greekness, are the ones that treated and still treat like shitt him and the likes of him.
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u/Reasonable-Total-628 2d ago
you are acting as if other countries dont use it as well. also giannis looks greek to me.. oh yea right
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u/Puzzleheaded_Sail729 Turkiye 2d ago
Unfortunate, I really would like to see our team play against Bosnian friends, congrats anyways great match.
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u/Warlord10 Montenegro 2d ago
The missed FTs killed Bosnia, and helped Poland back in the game. That's the game.
Serbia was such a disappointment after nearly beating team USA at the Olympics. No Bogi hurt them badly. He is a beast in FIBA.
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u/ExtremeProfession Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
Yeah and not scoring off the two steals we made in the final 2 minutes of the game, we just got scared.
Overall a scared game by our PFs, they were afraid to shoot and then with a few dubious calls the opponents get an opportunity to take over.
Shame as we were dominant for most of the game even with phantom fouls called on us.
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u/SuperSector973 2d ago
BIH played hard, started strong. I thought they would win it but they ran out of steam.
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u/GandraGMC 2d ago
Next time we will fuck them.. it's just eurobasket.. Serbia, Bosnia and Monte Negro are waiting for olimpic and 2027 world 😂.. this was ours C team 😂
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u/TheRedBaron-7 Turkiye 2d ago
disappointed, i always carry the mindset: if its not turkey winning, then it should be serbia greece or bosnia. my biggest wish is a turkey greece matchup now
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u/Jose_Caveirinha_2001 2d ago
Serbia loosing against Finland was a disaster, just like an airplane crashing. Everything was supposed to be fine, but wasn't. Too bad, really.
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u/Scary_Persimmon_1682 Republika Srpska 2d ago
I have many Polish friends, and I rooted for Poland, having spent a year working in Wroclaw. They also deserved to advance to the quarterfinals.
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u/Zmaj_99 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
Kako je to zalosno kad mrzis vlastitu drzavu u kojoj si rođen i iz koje ti porodica vec stoljecima vuce korijene..
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u/Scary_Persimmon_1682 Republika Srpska 2d ago
Naravno da ne mrzim Republiku Srpsko, naprotiv, volim je. Srbija je nažalost juče ispala, pogodilo me je, idemo dalje, a danas su bar braća Poljaci prošli dalje.
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u/Zmaj_99 Bosnia & Herzegovina 2d ago
Samo se tjesi, rs niti je drzava niti ce ikada biti. A u Srbiji ces uvijek biti nista drugo nego Bosanac.
Koja braca Poljaci? Ona koja su tokom rata bili na strani Hrvatske?
Znam da te to sve boli, ali sta je tu je.
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u/Scary_Persimmon_1682 Republika Srpska 1d ago
Ne, ne boli. Razvalili su Federaciju BIH ko dete igračku i baš mi je drago. Odmah krećeš na ratne teme, gadiš mi se. Radovao sam se sa poljskim prijateljima kad su vam ga šuknuli. Prelep osećaj. :)
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u/RegularOrdinary9875 2d ago edited 2d ago
BiH = Serbia
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u/SkywalkerTheLord Turkiye 2d ago
Gutted for both Bosnia and Serbia. Good luck to Greece. Looking forward to the Turkey-Greece match.