r/AskCaucasus • u/DangerousFarm3296 • 16d ago

Hunter-Farmer comparison of four notable Caucasian populations in Eastern Turkey

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u/KhlavKalashGuy Armenia 16d ago

Alternative model with Mesopotamian farmers, who are much more likely to have been involved than Anatolian farmers, archaeologically speaking: https://i.imgur.com/YnswdGL.png

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u/Strong_Tart53 14d ago

answer me in private messages

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u/DangerousFarm3296 10d ago

Can you share the calculator?

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u/KhlavKalashGuy Armenia 8d ago

1a_Georgia_Imeretian_HG_(n=2),0.084229,0.1045995,-0.0914515,-0.003876,-0.089863,0.019662,0.0210335,-0.0036925,-0.129975,-0.076995,-0.0051965,0.02248,-0.049058,0.002133,0.029044,-0.0241975,0.029141,-0.0064615,-0.0189175,0.037768,0.0343145,-0.0069245,0.003266,-0.020846,-0.0006585

1b_Iran_N_(n=9),0.0459086,0.0649939,-0.1550804,0.0051321,-0.1226212,0.0219086,0.0145709,-0.0015128,-0.0807187,-0.0557643,-0.002129,0.0001498,0.0057978,-0.0083644,0.0330856,0.055776,-0.0066787,0.0067569,0.0111172,-0.034475,0.0067936,-0.0283851,-0.0094078,-0.0379976,0.0217679

2a_Anatolia_Central_Boncuklu_PPN_(n=7),0.115937,0.1719147,0.0129836,-0.0735979,0.0553509,-0.0349011,-0.0008394,-0.0037581,0.0321689,0.0755759,0.008537,0.0120961,-0.0296683,-0.0004129,-0.0377884,-0.0054361,0.0283304,0.0056104,0.0135933,-0.0091114,-0.008699,0.0076311,-0.0083631,-0.0103283,-0.006552

2b_West_UpperMesopotamia_PPN_(n=4),0.0936195,0.1708628,-0.0433688,-0.110305,0.0074628,-0.045459,-0.0042302,-0.0052498,0.006954,0.0322102,0.0153458,-0.0009368,-0.0030105,0.0108378,-0.0248705,-0.0099775,-0.0005218,0.0052575,0.008736,0.0027825,0.001903,0.0150548,-0.0074255,-0.0055125,-0.0021852

2c_Levant_PPNB_(n=9),0.0723409,0.1658698,-0.0289127,-0.1368094,0.031151,-0.0643927,-0.0134739,-0.0100508,0.0743784,0.0366901,0.0202444,-0.0158859,0.0319621,0.0021408,-0.0190008,0.0010164,0.008982,-0.0032377,-0.0037988,0.0182589,-0.0035077,0.0064573,0.0035879,-0.0057571,-0.0041647

3b_Serbia_Mesolithic_Iron_Gates_(n=42),0.13008355,0.11661657,0.1810269,0.1785354,0.13113076,0.054197714,0.014447714,0.032778952,0.06439581,-0.0096584762,-0.0087225952,-0.01708531,0.024904167,0.0005735,0.03323531,0.047842833,0.0036258571,0.0064188333,-0.006383619,0.047522786,0.07455,0.010775476,-0.034074976,-0.12206817,0.011079619

3a_Russia_Karelia_Mesolithic_(EHG)_(n=15),0.12004533,0.0324292,0.12910107,0.207044,-0.0099504667,0.057377133,-0.021574133,-0.022829667,-0.0087809333,-0.082516533,0.021511067,-0.016645267,0.030981,-0.043277733,0.024728267,0.026261733,-0.0050240667,-0.0029729333,-0.0043994,0.014690333,-0.003577,0.016091267,0.0090052667,-0.019874133,-0.0084862667

4_Mongolia_N_(n=8),0.0256734,-0.4367906,0.0868634,-0.0300749,-0.0798099,-0.0537329,0.0157459,0.0146403,0.0162028,0.0212404,-0.0320086,-0.0024812,0.0029401,-0.0029511,-0.0044939,-0.0049354,0.0027091,-0.000915,0.002877,0.0169247,-0.0172197,-0.0044652,-0.0177476,-0.0054223,0.0069588

5_AASI-proxy_Paniya_(n=16),0.0051930625,-0.17536925,-0.18867825,0.1419595,-0.046739375,0.05271025,-0.0069179375,0.017177125,0.091422125,0.05854325,0.0052573125,0.0002903125,-0.003883875,0.015284688,-0.024217687,-0.02994025,0.012582063,-0.0002296875,-0.0033074375,0.030819563,0.00721375,0.014274125,-0.010275813,0.007493375,-0.007918375

6_Morocco_UP_Iberomaurusian_(n=6),-0.19008467,0.082257667,-0.0242615,-0.084626,0.026620333,-0.056056833,-0.070463667,0.020037667,0.15632417,0.0034928333,0.0198655,-0.032521,0.07547,-0.051494,0.072248333,-0.038848833,0.003716,-0.0654345,-0.144134,0.0378515,-0.038473833,-0.124951,0.071894333,-0.013816833,0.016186

7_Cameroon_Bangwa,-0.625458,0.060424,0.0207415,0.0198645,0.0029235,0.0103185,-0.0267915,0.036345,-0.03661,0.022324,0.005034,-0.006669,0.0019325,-6.85e-05,-0.0055645,0.002254,-0.008279,-0.0096285,-0.0021995,-0.004127,-0.003556,0.0033385,-0.001541,-0.001386,-0.003353

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u/Opening-Course8881 Georgia 16d ago

Meskhetians are always shocked to find out how low Turkish admixture they actually have 😂😂

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u/LegEmbarrassed6523 15d ago

South American Hunter-Gatherer?

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u/DangerousFarm3296 15d ago

In G25 models, the South_American_Hunter-Gatherer component doesn’t mean real South American ancestry. It usually appears as a proxy for Ancient North Eurasian (ANE) ancestry, which is shared with Siberian and early Turkic-related populations. When the model lacks the exact Siberian references, it sometimes pulls in a small amount of South_American_Hunter-Gatherer instead

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u/AmphibianOne7668 10d ago

you could've used Mongolia neolithic or yellow river