r/AskEurope Portugal 27d ago

Misc What is the chip on your country's shoulder?

A.K.A. the thing that people are still sensitive or insecure about, or feel the need to correct or overcome. A historical grievance, an ongoing issue, a cultural stereotype, etc.

For Portugal, it would be how irrelevant we are compared to the 16th century, or the fact that everyone confuses us with Spaniards or Brazilians. (Though it’s not as intense now that we’ve become a popular tourist hotspot.)

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u/BowtiedGypsy 26d ago

How is it pronounced?

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u/NikNakskes Finland 26d ago

Sau-na. Sau like in Saudi.

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u/carlosdsf Frantuguês 26d ago edited 26d ago

So if I pronounce it according yo spanish pronunciation rules, it's mostly OK (the stress would be on the first a).

edit: https://fr.forvo.com/word/sauna/

OK, portuguese- and spanish-speakers would be fine.

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u/NikNakskes Finland 26d ago

Yes. That link was cool! But not French. Of course not... it wouldn't be french if it would come even close to being pronounced like it is written. Hehehe. Sorry. Don't throw croissants at me in revenge.

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u/carlosdsf Frantuguês 26d ago

French sees "au" and read s it as "o".

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u/zeviea United Kingdom 25d ago

They also have unpronounced letters coming out the oiseaux

(Okay that joke doesn't quite work)

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u/carlosdsf Frantuguês 24d ago

I find it funny.

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u/sherlock0109 Germany 24d ago

Okay nice we say it pretty much the same in Germany :D

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u/rudolf_waldheim Hungary 26d ago

At least we get that right.

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u/amanset British and naturalised Swede 26d ago

In Finnish. Yes.

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u/NikNakskes Finland 26d ago

Well yes. I suppose that was what he wanted to know.

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u/CaptainPoset Germany 26d ago

so like the Americans' "sodee arabia"-pronunciation?

Probably better to describe it with the "ow" out of "now".

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u/NikNakskes Finland 26d ago

Yeah... I realised that a little too late. Because duh it is the same letter group, so whoever says sooh-nah probably also says soodi. Oh well.

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u/can-t_change_it 25d ago

Saudi is pronounced Saw-dee. 🤭

To help people who only speak English pronounce sauna properly, you should break it down as sow-nuh (sow as in "female pig", not as "to plant seeds") 😃

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u/NikNakskes Finland 25d ago

Sow is a good one! And I'm gonna remember it for the next time I need it. If I ever need it.

I was combing through my brain for the right sound and all that came up was this Saudi Arabia commercial. The very last word of it to be precise. https://youtu.be/kDqTPT1SQbU?si=wpVpqwu3dI9hALJm

Yeah... well. Never mind. I'm gonna remember sow. That works a lot better than a random tv ad for a foreign nation that has its name pronounced differently already just in english.

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u/BowtiedGypsy 26d ago

What in the world, are you serious??? Iv never heard this hahaha

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u/NikNakskes Finland 26d ago

:) yep. Sa-ow---nah. Kinda. It's hard to try and pick a phonetic option from english. But go ahead if you say sooh-nah. That's how you guys over there pronounce it, and that's fine too. It is your language.

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u/Toby_Forrester Finland 26d ago

Sau almost like in Sauron. Na almost like in Nazi. Sau-na.

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u/white1984 United Kingdom 26d ago

/ˈsɑu̯nɑ/, but if your an English speaker /ˈsaʊ.nə/ as in the middle sound is 'ow' in cow, not 'or' in Lorna

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u/Mercy--Main EU - Spain - Madrid 26d ago

thing is, English speakers really don't pronounce "au", but more like "sowna"

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u/BowtiedGypsy 26d ago

Saw (like chainsaw)

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u/Mercy--Main EU - Spain - Madrid 26d ago

that's what i said

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u/BowtiedGypsy 26d ago

Sowna = downa Sow = soe

Sawna = sauna

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u/sjintje United Kingdom 26d ago

I think he said sownaaa