r/AskEurope • u/EvilPyro01 United States of America • 4d ago
Politics What is the most divisive issue in your country currently?
What issue is currently dividing your country?
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u/RubCharacter7272 4d ago
I think we all know the big two, immigration and wealth imbalance
Those are the big two everywhere
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u/Just_RandomPerson Latvia 4d ago
I think we all know the big two, immigration and wealth imbalance
Western Europe ig, but in Eastern Europe it's not really an issue.
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u/RubCharacter7272 4d ago edited 4d ago
It will be, we didn’t think the same in Ireland till 2021, then boom!
Edit: we jumped from 4.7 million to 5.3 million 90% of it due to immigration in the period of 21-25
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u/Swimming-Zucchini434 4d ago
What were the voting numbers on allowing the immigration?
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u/RubCharacter7272 4d ago
These issues didn’t exist pre 2021, now the issues has people protesting IPAS centres or supporting them, we even have had riots which are rare here. Yeah it’s very divisive
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/2025/08/28/immigration-driving-population-toward-six-million/
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u/normal1010 4d ago
I think most people do not see immigration in general as an issue. It is more specifically the Islamic-socialized and third-world immigration that puts strain on their countries social systems and influences their subjective safety feeling in population centers many people are unhappy about.
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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Netherlands 4d ago
It’s definitely both in the Netherlands. While asylum seekers are perceived as a more pressing issue, people are also starting to get fed up with expats.
A lot of people hate needing to speak English to order a coffee or get help in a clothing store, let alone the pressure they put on the housing market and social cohesion in the larger cities.
Personally don’t really see the issues with either tho.
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u/PvtFreaky Netherlands 4d ago
I mean I am a little bit annoyed that my city doubled in size since my birth and everyone wants to live here while me and my friends can't find places.
But why would I blame the people. Of course they would want to live in the greatest city (read paradise) on earth
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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Netherlands 4d ago
Tell ‘m to move up north! Various towns, including my birthplace, that have actually shrunk since I was born. My hometown by nearly 10% even.
We could really use some new young people moving here, even if they all order soy latte’s in english instead of just black coffee in Dutch!
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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Netherlands 4d ago
Buh buh buh. They’ve been saying this since the 80’s yet here I am still happily enjoying my Dutch life and Dutch culture alongside my very friendly and lovable muslim friends.
Go outside and touch some grass.
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u/euclide2975 France 4d ago
And they are in practice the same issue.
The upper class want cheap labor, thus immigration, and they finance right wing media and politicians to ensure people hate immigrants instead of billionaires.
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u/Oberst_Kawaii Germany 4d ago
I hear this narrative often and it flatly doesn't make sense.
If you remove the refugees - you get natives having to work menial jobs and the average price for basic services - especially in health care and construction - rising even more. The idea that immigrants are somehow at odds with domestic labor is widely rejected. In America, studies show that only the around 3% of the population who dropped out of high school are negatively impacted - it's likely the same for Europe.
Next, why do they finance right wing media to ensure people hate immigrants rather than billionaires, rather than just promoting neoliberalism and laissez-faire capitalism? That way they could have their cake and eat it, too and even the people would benefit more.
Because the latter is more effective because people largely care more about identity politics and their racism than they do about their own welfare.
This is not a conspiracy - the people themselves want all of this and it is democracy that's failing. Not because it is manipulated by powerful elites to confuse us, but because the people themselves want things that you and me can not logically retrace.
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u/Trialbyfuego United States of America 4d ago
Good points. The people want it. They want to hate someone.
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u/PvtFreaky Netherlands 4d ago
We still imagine ourselves as part of a tribe and dislike people we perceive to not be part of that tribe.
Be it based on religion, ethnicity, nationality, class, behaviour, gender, whatever the fu k
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u/zeviea United Kingdom 4d ago edited 4d ago
I agree, sadly. Reminds me of the Steve Jobs quote. Replace dumb us down with hate immigrants (I guess you don't often have the latter without the former)
When you’re young, you look at television and think, There’s a conspiracy. The networks have conspired to dumb us down. But when you get a little older, you realize that’s not true. The networks are in business to give people exactly what they want. That’s a far more depressing thought. Conspiracy is optimistic! You can shoot the bastards! We can have a revolution! But the networks are really in business to give people what they want. It’s the truth.
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u/atomoffluorine United States of America 4d ago
I agree with most of your points, but at least some billionaires are ideologically attached to the right. Elon Musk for example, has a lot to lose materially from tariffs and a potential end to H1B (high skilled temporary immigrant workers). It seems he fell in because one of his children decided to get gender affirmative treatment rather than anything material. Now that it's cost him too much backlash and trouble, he's out.
I think even billionaires are motivated more by cultural conflict rather than money in the 21st century. A lot of what the traditionalist right promotes isn't good for business.
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u/Loud_Health_8288 4d ago
Wow this comment is littered with nonsense and falsehoods where to start.
Refugees aren’t the ones filling these menial positions especially in healthcare that’s from legal immigrants, studies widely support that non European migration has a very detrimental impact on wages as well as public services with immigrants typically taking out more than they consume using America as an example is also wildly disingenuous it is not comparable at all to Europe.
“Labour shortages” are perfectly fine for the average person as many of these shortages are either completely artificial/fabricated and a shortage results in increased wages and prospects for people filling those roles, if a few positions are missing the country doesn’t just come crashing down lol. In healthcare many governments simply restrict the amount of training to hire cheaply overseas instead theres no shortage of people who want to fill these roles. The reason why we hear about labour shortages in the media as some big detriment (same goes for an ageing population) is because it’s bad for the oligarchs who hold massive cultural power.
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u/TukkerWolf Netherlands 4d ago
In the Netherlands I don't think wealth imbalance is considered an issue? At least not that I am aware of.
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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Netherlands 4d ago
The housing crisis is our equivalent. The best solutions aren’t favored by home-owners because it’d impact their wealth, which they’ve seen growing significantly these past years.
Our housing crisis isn’t fixed in part because so many people are resisting fixing the growing wealth imbalance.
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u/TukkerWolf Netherlands 4d ago
Hmmm, I see what you mean but I don't really think it is true. We have too little homes because of Nitrogen, Nimby, lack of space, too much income and money, etc. I don't consider wealth part of it. Anyone who bought a house 10+ years ago has seen their value doubled or more, do you think all those people would care if prices would lower? I don't think so. I also don't see any divisive discussion on this, like with immigrants and Gaza, which I do consider really divisive topics.
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u/HomeworkMean7621 4d ago
mortgage interest deduction (hypotheekrenteaftrek) is a divisive discussion
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u/Sharp_Win_7989 Netherlands 4d ago
We sure don't lack space in a country where over 50% is farmland and without natural barriers like mountains or deserts. And although our country is densely populated, we don't really build densely. It's a choice how we decide to use our land, but you can't really argue we lack space when over half of it is used to grow crops or grassland for cows.
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u/Any-Seaworthiness186 Netherlands 4d ago
I’m fairly certain that besides nitrogen restrictions the most important reason is definitely wealth. Sure, there’s some obstacles in the way, but there was no political will to even consider properly addressing those issues because kickstarting a proper large-scale housing plan would result in immense losses of wealth for the center and right winged electorate. And if there’s anything parties like the VVD are (or were…) afraid of it’s displeasing their privileged electorate to benefit the masses.
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u/sasheenka Czechia 3d ago
Nah, here it’s: do we want to be in the EU or do we want to simp to Russia.
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u/Prior-Actuator-8110 4d ago edited 4d ago
- wealth distribution (specially older gens that got everything, several houses, high pensions.. the median pension is higher than median salary).
- inmigration (particularly illegal inmigration from North of Africa).
- housing (related to point 1)
- higher taxes vs. lower taxes (fiscal policy)
- climate change
a few more like views on cultural topics basically
Spain.
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u/AnnieBlackburnn 4d ago
Would you say there’s less controversy around immigration from Latin America compared to Africans? (which is where a lot of the usual immigrants to Spain came from)
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u/Prior-Actuator-8110 4d ago
Yes, most people is against illegal inmigration and some people is still against legal inmigration from Latin America but the official position of Vox is that they support legal inmigration from Latin America but some people is against inmigration from LATAM as well, mostly people from 18 to 40.
I think its cause younger people have to deal with mostly a big housing crisis, lower salaries, high unemployment and the patronal and CEOE says more inmigration its needed and people ask themselves "we don't have work for us".
And the housing crisis is one of the worse ones in Europe due Spain is a tourist destination. To rent an apartment in Barcelona (2 room apartment) nothing fancy costs you around 1.5-1.6K per month so you needs to earn net like 3.5-4K net per month and thats means in gross you needs to earn like 65-70K gross anually which is like percentile 96 or so, in few industries or jobs you can get paid that much here (and with experience).
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u/NationalSalt608 4d ago
I read that the majority of immigrants in Spain (legal and illegal) are Romanian.
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4d ago
Not even by a long shot. Romania left the top 10 for immigration a while ago. Colombians, Moroccans and Venezuelans are the current top 3, with Italians and Ukrainians as the sole Euro representstion in the current top 10.
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u/CreepyOctopus -> 4d ago
Sweden's two big divisive issues are criminality and economic inequality.
On crime, opinions are very far apart across the political spectrum. To exaggerate a bit, it spans from the right wing's "deport any brown person and their family if they get a traffic ticket" to the left's "we won't even need prisons if there's enough welfare for adults and after school activities for kids".
The economic gaps are almost as divisive. You have people pissed off that they pay too much tax, other people pissed off that everyone else pays too little tax, companies pissed off that employees still expect a raise during inflation, and unions pissed off that companies aren't giving enough of a raise.
Seems to be a trend almost everywhere but most issues are more divisive than they used to be. The quality of political discourse seems to be dropping still, and it's radically different from what I remember about 20 years ago.
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u/Chubba1984 Ireland 4d ago
Housing is a massive issue in Ireland. Younger generations are completely priced out of buying a home due to limited supply and rents are astronomical. Housing is just not being built quiclly enough. Has led to adult children continuing to live with their parents which will certainly lead to social consequences.
Immigration is rapidly becoming another divisive issue with inward migration increasing every year putting further pressure on the housing market.
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u/puyongechi Spain 4d ago
Housing and tourisim, which are extremely related. Also, our (politicians') evident ineptitude at dealing with natural disasters (Valencia's Dana, our current wildfires, etc). Political parties keep blaming each other for the poor management of our resources during these hard times and people buy into it. We've got neighbours arguing over who's guilty for the irreparable losses of thousands of people who literally saw the fires coming three days in advance and weren't granted any protection.
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u/Terrible-Group-9602 4d ago
Certainly immigration, I expect you'll get the same answer from lots of people. Also the gap between the rich and poor.
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u/Krasny-sici-stroj Czechia 4d ago
We are going to have elections in a few weeks, so everything is divisive issue in my country currently.
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u/CapoDiMalaSperanza Italy 4d ago
Ban Babis from running in the elections. There, problem solved.
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u/Krasny-sici-stroj Czechia 4d ago
Oh my sweet summer child! Babiš is the lesser evil compared to at least three other parties.
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u/CapoDiMalaSperanza Italy 4d ago
Yeah I doubt it.
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u/Krasny-sici-stroj Czechia 4d ago
So, you would rather hard-core commies, local reincarnation of AfD or a bunch of plain nazi misogynist who shit all over ecology?
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u/CapoDiMalaSperanza Italy 4d ago
...Oh, man, are things up in Czechia really that bad?
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u/Krasny-sici-stroj Czechia 3d ago
The AfD lite will have around 10%, the commies might have over the compulsory 5%, and the Motorists (the last one) will probably end up with less than that, without representation in the Parliament.
Problem is, if you remove Babis (leading the polls at 30%), this three parties will get his votes. Our last govt is inept, totally removed from reality of majority of people, and managed to piss off even their own voters. As far as a protest votes go, Babiš is the least dangerous of all of them. He depends on the EU money in his business, so he is less likely to turn to Russia, which is not the case for the others.
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u/fineboifranz Austria 4d ago
GOOG LUCK BROTHERS! My bfs country is currently under attack of Fico's despotism. Hope one part of former Czechoslovakia is going to choose wisely.
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u/Tortoveno Poland 4d ago
Probably our new president. One side say he is hard-ass, but nice historian, a guardian of Poland, and other side knows he's just a smiling hooligan, a pimp and a con-man in black suit.
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u/ksmigrod Poland 2d ago
The president is done deal.
New divisive point is education, especially religion indoctrination cut from two to one hour a week, and introduction of optional classes focused on health (both physical and mental, including reproductive health). Catholic bishops are furious.
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u/Grouchy_Fan_2236 Hungary 4d ago
Trying to list the most country-specific ones:
- To A/C or not to A/C. The majority support widespread use of air-conditioners and A/C installer is possibly the hottest blue collar job right now, but there's a minority consisting mainly of academics, intellectuals and dark-green activists that is A/C skeptical and opposes it.
- Battery factories and their environmental impact. A lot of these were built over the past few years and there are all kind of opinions on them. Most of it might be NIMBY-ism, but some of it may be legitimate issues.
- Science funding. A large share of research and academic advancement in my country is not done through universities, but through the Hungarian Academy of Science. Which in the past ~50 years has proven to be mostly useless. So there's an ever-green debate on what to do with it and how to reform the system.
- Public vs private healthcare. Public one is underfunded and doctors are corrupt. Private one is exclusive and won't treat all health issues. The long-term solution would be something like the Swiss system, but thus far the purchasing power of healthcare customers have been too low to steer the debate towards a hybrid insurance model.
- Chinese investments. One side argues doing business with the Chinese is the deal of the century and key towards becoming a neutral trading between East and West. More Atlanticist voices claim the Chinese only exploit the country and working with them hurts long-term growth.
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u/FakeNathanDrake Scotland 4d ago
To A/C or not to A/C. The majority support widespread use of air-conditioners and A/C installer is possibly the hottest blue collar job right now, but there's a minority consisting mainly of academics, intellectuals and dark-green activists that is A/C skeptical and opposes it.
I understand why the green types would be opposed, but what issue do the academics and intellectuals take with it?
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u/Grouchy_Fan_2236 Hungary 4d ago edited 4d ago
A/C uses more energy -> More energy use is bad and heats the streets -> Since streets become hotter we'll need even more A/C. Thus it's a vicious circle is generally their argument. And yes, there are research papers written with data trying to back up this logic.
But I've also heard architects argue that A/Cs on the facade are one of the greatest threat to historic cityscapes and during COVID a lot of people echoed the sentiment that A/Cs might be responsible for spreading the virus.I'm genuinely not sure why anti-A/C sentiment is so prevalent amongst the highly qualified, but it seems to be a mix of whataboutism, peer pressure or maybe just bad experience with colleagues always setting uncomfortable A/C temperatures in the office.
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u/Bierzgal Poland 4d ago
While it will seem like a low hanging fruit I'd say politics. Despite having more than two parties, the situation is quite simmilar to what you know from the US. The two biggest camps hating each other and throwing spanners in each other's works.
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u/Darrowby_385 4d ago
UK: the boats! We're being invaded, it's a national emergency! It's getting more Trumpian, Stephen Milleresque, by the day.
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u/AnnieByniaeth Wales 4d ago
My instinct was to say "Brexit", but the number who think that was still a good idea is continually falling. I suspect immigration, which is what the right wing have moved on to, is now the bigger divide.
The irony that Brexit caused an increase in immigration - particularly what the right wing would call the "wrong type of immigrants" is hilarious - but there were are.
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u/SalSomer Norway 4d ago
Capital tax, apparently.
That is to say, we’re in the middle of an election and one of the most noticeable differences between the two main center-left and center-right parties is their stance on capital tax, so the media likes writing about it. Also, some very wealthy individuals are doing what they can to make sure it stays the main issue.
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u/pteix 4d ago
Populism (hate for immigrants, minorities..., isolationism, ...) vs traditionalism (freedom of speach, wokism, globalism, ...): the same as in most western countries. The ground preparation for fascism!
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u/Swimming-Zucchini434 4d ago
Did you vote for the immigration? What was the proposition on the ballot?
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u/Beautiful_Job7109 4d ago
Housing is the 'hottest' issue here in Ireland for the past few years. Not sure 'divisive' is the exact word thoughy because there's a lot of overlap in the solutions being proposed across the political spectrum.
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u/ChokedPanda Scotland 4d ago
I would say for the U.K it is immigration and wealth inequality
Scotland specific, Scottish independence is pretty divisive. Although the SNP mandate has seriously weakened so it’s probably not the burning focus it was a few years back.
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u/SnooBooks1701 United Kingdom 4d ago
It's not so much wealth inequality as the houses prices (due to housing shortages from NIMBYs)
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u/8bitmachine Austria 4d ago
Inflation, especially with regards to supermarkets. We have some of the highest prices in Europe. Products manufactured in Austria by Austrian companies are cheaper in neighboring countries than they are in Austria.
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u/EvilPyro01 United States of America 4d ago
How the hell?
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u/Knusperwolf Austria 4d ago edited 4d ago
They raise the prices until people stop buying. There is more competition in Germany, while the main competition to Austrian supermarkets is also Germany.
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u/Indian_Pale_Ale France 4d ago
Naming one is tough, but every political issues currently is a huge mess, and they are all divisive. It would be impossible to say though which one is the most divisive.
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u/noCoolNameLeft42 France 4d ago
The real question that divides France is "chocolatine or pain au chocolat ?"
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u/Bitoncule France 4d ago
Well immigration is the easiest one lol
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u/Indian_Pale_Ale France 4d ago
World politics, the deficit, tax politics, wealth imbalance, the list is quite long. Only media really push immigration a lot
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u/Alarow France 4d ago
35% voting Bardella - Le Pen and 5% voting Zemmour says otherwise
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u/Indian_Pale_Ale France 4d ago
Meaning that 60% do not vote for them and have other problems in mind.
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u/Bitoncule France 4d ago
The whole left makes it their battle in favor of immigration, the whole far right makes it their battle against immigration. That's already a majority of people lol not even mentioning the right and center-right which slowly shifts to the right on these issues because its popular. You have to live under a rock to pretend immigration isnt the biggest polarizing theme
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u/Indian_Pale_Ale France 4d ago
The presence of this debate in the medias does not mean that it is the number 1 preoccupation of people, it just means that the debates is overly present in the media and therefore all sides must tell something about it. There are other very polarising issues in current politics which I mentioned in a previous comment. The composition of the French Parliament depicts it perfectly, all the different parties can’t agree with one another on pretty much anything.
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u/Malthesse Sweden 4d ago edited 4d ago
As of right at this moment, one of the absolutely most divisive issues in Sweden is the ongoing large-scale bear hunt. There are a lot of extensive protests against the hunt from environmental and natural protection groups as well as from the general public - at the same time as many hunters and farmers are very strongly in favor of heavily reducing the number of bears. Many hunters have also said that they feel threatened by activists and that activists are sabotaging the hunt. And there was quite a bit of celebration recently when a man was badly injured during an attack from a bear while hunting, with people claiming the bear had every right to defend itself.
There is simply a lot of passionate feelings of both love and hate around the large carnivores in Sweden and this large-scale bear hunt is in turn just part of the extremely controversial extensive hunting policies from the government on large carnivores - which also includes large-scale hunting of lynxes, seals and especially wolves. The Swedish government has said that they wish to halve the already critically endangered, very small and seriously inbred Swedish wolf population - despite the fact that it would very likely break EU law regarding protection of endangered species. The various nature and environmental groups as well as many from the general public are doing what they can by loudly protesting to save the large carnivores, but the hunting lobby is incredibly strong and influential in Sweden and has long had a very powerful hold within both the government and its agencies. So we'll just have to see how it all develops.
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u/wijnandsj Netherlands 4d ago
I can tell you it's starting to affect your appeal as a tourist destination
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u/isUKexactlyTsameasUS Netherlands 4d ago
apart from WW3? it is (in our opinion, only...) Only Housing but ''it IS the MOST divisive issue in ALL countries'' and wrongly (and easily) blamed on immigration and wealth imbalance. Those are the big two everywhere... apart from WW3...
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u/Quicksilver62 4d ago
At the moment, housing, the health system, and the ongoing independence/ devolution debate.
Coming up fast on the inside track is immigration.
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u/Efficient-Poem-4186 Sweden 4d ago
Actually, I'd say the Gaza situation is the most divisive in the sense that both sides strongly defend their positions and there no obvious winner if they clash in media. Lately the government coalition had open disagreement about this played out in media.
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u/SoakingEggs 4d ago
progressive vs conservative ideologies and informed vs the disinformed,
Even tho, imo it should be rich vs poor (everywhere on the fckn planet)
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u/Ecstatic-Method2369 Netherlands 4d ago
Immigration. The war in Palestine is another one. However its often the extreme opposites are the loudest. The people with a nuanced opinion in the middle are forgotten.
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u/Thin_Rip8995 4d ago
in the us it’s less one issue and more a constant culture war machine. everything from healthcare to housing to climate gets fed into the red vs blue blender and turned into identity politics. the real divide isn’t left vs right, it’s regular ppl trying to live vs a system addicted to outrage for profit.
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u/disneyvillain Finland 4d ago
Austerity is a big one. The current government has made substantial cuts to public spending, but the finance minister announced it's still not enough and that she's planning more. A lot of people are exhausted, but the right generally supports the measures.
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u/CapoDiMalaSperanza Italy 4d ago
And this is why right-wing parties should never be allowed to win an election everywhere.
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u/Avia_Vik France 4d ago
For France its migration and overall the conservative-liberal battle within the society. Typical for many European countries.
Additionally id add parisian centralisation and regionalism. Ppl from regions outside Paris dont like how France functions (very Paris-oriented) and they want further autonomy for their respective regions, some propose federation while Paris ofc opposes it to keep its dominance
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u/NecroVecro Bulgaria 4d ago
Ngl I haven't been keeping much with politics for a month or two, but the adoption of the euro and the support for Ukraine are some of the biggest ones.
The governance of the country is another one, especially since some parties are running on a reformist anti-corruption platform while others are trying to preserve the status quo.
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u/MarshalKos Serbia 4d ago
Here are some of the problems Serbia faces now:
- Giant corruption and state propaganda
- Inflation and shrinkflation
- Poor welfare quality
- Trash workers rights
- Big wealth gap
- Agricultural failure
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u/MeltingChocolateAhh United Kingdom 2d ago
Currently there is a massive "stop the boats" campaign in England. It is dominating a lot of our feeds in social media, and as a result, people are now painting St George's cross (white background, red cross but as a plus sign) on road markings. People are flying the English flag. They're graffiting the English flag onto white buildings. And, this can actually be seen as you're walking about.
It is everywhere right now.
And, as for "stop the boats", the meaning of this is because of people who come from France to England in small boats to seek asylum in England. And, while they're going through the process, they're accommodated and fed. People are protesting against this. The asylum seekers are portrayed to be majority-islamic with zero respect for the English law.
Honestly, it's making people very openly racist on Facebook to a level I have never seen in my life. Regardless of if I think this debate is right or wrong, because truthfully I'm pretty under-informed about it, but racism is never right. Like, there will be a post of a car accident that happened in an English town, or a fight that broke out (generic stuff that goes viral on the internet) and if it is a UK page, someone will have mentioned "the boats" or something about "send them back" in the comments.
This is probably the hottest topic right now. Also, house prices - for anyone buying or renting is a huge topic too.
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1d ago
Croatia: Should mass preformed WW2 greetings at a concert be taken as a crime or is it taking it out of the context?
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u/AppleDane Denmark 4d ago
I'm not sure if any issue is "divisive" in Denmark. We can all identify problems, but there doesn't seem to be anyone who is arguing about how to solve it. It's just tax re-distribution, which the current government seem unwilling to do. They are unpopular for that and other reasons. We are handling immigration ok, for now, and people pretty much agree, although it's still an issue. Only the far right want to go further, it seems.
Housing is an issue, with the middle class in particular being forced out of Copenhagen, but that happens all over the world.
Only thing that seem divisive is the whole Chat Control nonsense, where the government is going "Think of the children!" and trying to hurry intrusive measures through, both here and in the EU.
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u/UmbrellaTheorist 4d ago
A right-wing serb immigrant in Norway killed an ethiopian immigrant social worker because "of political reasons" according to himself because he was racist. The big discussion is one side saying that the problem is that he was a rightwing racist. The other side says that he killed because he is an immigrant.
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u/ConversationOdd5216 4d ago edited 4d ago
immigration (as always) and the whole thing about allowing the delivery of swiss-made weapons to countries that are at war (ie ukraine). context: there was a vote some years ago to forbid the export and re-export of weapons to countries at war. back then the idea was to not export weapons to shady governments and now the ukraine conflict made that past decision a whole lot more complicated.
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u/MinecraftWarden06 Poland 4d ago
Latest presidential election, which was basically 50/50 and we still don't know the actual result, although Nawrocki's victory is pretty certain. Also, sentiment to Ukrainians.
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u/elexat in 4d ago
Probably immigration and housing in NL. Or, people will say "immigration", but they only give their attention to asylum seekers.