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[u/tereyaglikedi]

It was so hot yesterday evening when I went for a run. I was running near some blackberry bushes, and blackberry season is pretty much over so the whole air was full of the smell of overripe rotting blackberries. That's pretty bad (especially if you are breathing deeply). We then had some dramatic rainstorm and this morning everything smells nice again.

My neighbor drives a T*sla. I have no problem with my neighbor. But when I was in Turkey, we were looking at a house that my mom might have potentially wanted to buy. The seller was a guy who also bought and sold cars. God he was such an jerk. When my mom said that I live in Germany, he said, "Oh, so you must be driving a T---". And why exactly? Because since I work in Germany, I am rich? I said that those aren't very well seen in Europe and their sales are declining, and he replied, really, here the sales are increasing. In this economy? Well, maybe the rich are indeed getting richer. Fantastic, just what we need.

I should have said so much more. What a tool.

Do you ever not say something and then regret it afterwards? Would you rather say something and maybe regret it, or not say it and regret that you didn't say it?

[u/atomoffluorine → u/tereyaglikedi]

Wouldn't most people just be too angry to think of anything to say in those situations, anyway?

Isn't it pretty common for people in poorer countries to think everyone living in a richer country is rich? Well, maybe most are indeed rich by their standards.

[u/tereyaglikedi → u/atomoffluorine]

I think it's just what they think people here live like, yeah. Also because people who initially came to Germany from Turkey came to make money, and I guess there is still this image of "went to Germany and got rich".

I thought of plenty of stuff to say... But growing up also means knowing when to shut the fuck up, unfortunately.

[u/atomoffluorine → u/tereyaglikedi]

I mean, they probably aren't even exactly wrong, depending on their definition of rich. A cheaper Telsa isn't that unaffordable for someone who's making a bit more than median income in rich countries. Maybe they ignore the unsuccessful immigrants, though.

Most migrants who migrated in history probably did so to improve their living conditions (getting richer is a big part of that). I doubt there'd be many Turks in Germany if Turkish wages are on par. Most people would probably prefer the familiarity and comfort of home and family, and there'd only be a few who like that culture abroad.

[u/lucapal1 → u/atomoffluorine]

I think that depends a fair bit on the country, though I agree with you in general.

Where I am in Sicily,we have immigrants from Africa and Asia who came for money and work opportunities,as well as political reasons... but also a lot of Europeans.

The Europeans didn't come for financial reasons! It's not a place to earn high salaries, compared to Northern Europe in particular.

They mostly came for the weather, the food, the lifestyle...

[u/atomoffluorine → u/lucapal1]

I'm arguing that the numbers who came for the culture and lifestyle are usually dwarfed by immigration for economic reasons in the vast majority of places in rich countries. Checking the statistics, more than a million Romanians immigrated to Italy by 2023 vs only 15k Americans and ~35k Germans. There's far more people from China, Nigeria, and even tiny Sri Lanka in Italy than there are Germans who are a large nation much closer. With those numbers, I wonder if you can find any place where Northern Europeans and Americans outnumber people from poorer places.

[u/lucapal1]

Last day in Riga today.

Tomorrow I'll take the first flight in a couple of months... Europe is such an easy place to travel overland in! The Baltics are particularly good for bus travel.Lux Express is excellent.

Also used train a bit here, but much less than in Western and Central Europe.

[u/orangebikini]

I took a train home from another city yesterday evening and it arrived at the station just before Eurobasket was starting, the opening game for the group that plays here, it was Finland v. Sweden. The arena they play at is right next to the train station (actually the train tracks go under it) so I saw a ton of people walk towards it from the train window which got me into Eurobasket mood nicely.

I don't have tickets to any game, but I now have slight fomo so maybe I'll have to source some. I'd like to go see Finland v. Germany.

[u/orangebikini]

[MOD] Is the name of the American electric car manufacturer that is lead by a South-African man who has since been naturalised as a United States citizen, that is often considered part of the so called Magnificent 7, that is not named Edison but rhymes with the Finnish forestry machinery company Kesla, somehow filtered?

[u/Nirocalden → u/orangebikini]

testing Tesla

EDIT: seems to show up for me?

EDIT2: but not as a top level comment. Interesting...

[u/tereyaglikedi → u/Nirocalden]

I had three comments removed earlier (hence the censorship) and figured that's the reason... I don't think it could have been anything else.

[u/tereyaglikedi → u/orangebikini]

Okay, it seems like the reason why my comments were cannibalized earlier wasn't Tesla, but the word b*TCH. Really? That's so weird.

[u/orangebikini → u/tereyaglikedi]

I don't know, I replied to the censored comment where I used the name of the company without censorship and I don't think it's visible to anybody but me. I didn't use any words that might be considered haram, I don't think.

[u/tereyaglikedi → u/orangebikini]

The whole thing is a bit opaque. Maybe we'll get a reply.