r/AskMiddleEast Iraq Kurdish 5d ago

🌍Geography Why did they split Kurds into 4?

Why didn't they annex all the kurdish areas into one state instead of splitting us into different borders when we are the same people? I can't help but always think about how much better it would be if all of us Kurds at least lived within the same borders. I feel like a lot of these conflicts you see today likely wouldn't have happened. It's heartbreaking that the people that share the same blood, heritage and language as me either have a better quality of life with more opportunities and a better passport, or worse quality of life and worse passport all because of westerners carving out borders on our behalf. Or there are now Kurds who speak Arabic in their daily lives and Kurds who now speak Turkish or Persian in their daily lives. There are tribes and even families who live on opposite sides of the border. Look at the border between Niseybin and Qamishlo and tell me that's not sad lol. Look at the kolbars in Iran and how they have to smuggle across to Iraq to make a living because their area is the poorest in Iran, if they aren't shot dead or freeze to death in the mountains. I cried so much when I saw a video of when they found a young man that froze to death just trying to get food on the table.

I know very, very well that we're not the only ones that suffered as a result of border splits but I think that our example is definitely up there. I wish my people weren't split up by foreigners and then tried to be assimilated in their newly-formed states.

Edit: You successfully managed to downvote my post so much to the point where the percentage of downvotes was higher because I talked about Kurds. I didn't disrepespect nor critique any other country or any ethnic group yet you all flocked to downvote this. SubhanAllah you have managed to let your ethno-nationalism blind you this much and you have the audacity to wonder Kurds are like this.

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u/Good-Concentrate-260 American Jew ✡ 🇺🇸 5d ago

Borders of nation states were drawn by European powers after WWI. Leaders of the countries that Kurds lived in wanted that land and viewed Kurdish nationalism as a threat to their territory and national security. I’m sorry for what happened to your people as they have been oppressed by their governments, but I’m not sure that another ethnic national state in the Middle East would fare any better, and it might result in ethnic cleansing or population transfers as in the case of Israel and Palestine or Greece and Turkey after WWI.

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u/rkozik89 5d ago

You might want to read up on the Assyrian genocide and the other massacres that took place in the decades prior to it. These, "Kurdish lands" have only been dominantly Kurdish since they, with the backing of the Ottomans, ethnically cleansed these lands.

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u/Good-Concentrate-260 American Jew ✡ 🇺🇸 5d ago

Wow, I didn’t know about that. It is really terrible, at the same time undeniably the Kurds have been persecuted by other nation states more recently. I’m not saying that everyone is either a victim or an oppressor, sometimes people can be both in different circumstances.

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u/Dangerous-Cancel-603 Iraq Kurdish 4d ago edited 4d ago

There have been Kurdish lands for centuries historically. You are oversimplifying and erasing history due to your emotions. This is an objective fact. Claiming all of our Kurdish lands once had an Assyrian majority and didn't exist is erasure. That's disgusting coming from you.