r/AvatarMemes • u/Round_Interview2373 • Mar 01 '25

General Always knew Aang was trash (Sarcasm)

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u/atomicq32 Mar 01 '25

I trust the opinion of no one who thinks Aang staying would have done anything except get the Avatar killed.

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u/Lamplorde Mar 01 '25

I dont think OP was making this point, because Aang could not have stopped them back then, but it brings up a good one:

Blaming Korra for the villain destroying the previous avatar spirits is somewhat like blaming Aang for the villain destroying the Air nation.

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u/ElTioEnroca Mar 02 '25

If they want a more fair comparison, Aang got killed by Azula during the Avatar state, which would've permanently destroyed the Avatar cycle if Katara had used the spirit water for anything else, like Zuko or Jet.

That's arguably worse than what happened with Korra, since at least Korra managed to keep going with her life even without the Avatars, while Aang getting killed there would've been the end of everything, and he had to be bailed out by Katara. But no one sane will blame him for that because he didn't choose to get killed.

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u/atomicq32 Mar 01 '25

That's very fair. Most of the things she did "wrong" were done to her. I will argue that her training was probably much worse because she was probably babied whereas Aang didn't have that luxury. He was not only taught by a Water Bending master that had been bending for his entire life but Aang trained with one of the best water benders in history, he also trained with one of the greatest Earth Benders in history and she made a point not to baby him, and he trained with dragons for fire bending. I am also not sure she got the Avatar State training that Aang got.

I will say though, the only thing she did do herself is what probably destroys the world which is leaving the portals open.

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u/zernoc56 Mar 02 '25

The White Lotus royally fucked her up by keeping her in an isolated compound in the South for so long. Avatars are meant to travel the world in order to master the four elements, not have private tutors be brought to their doorstep while getting high off their own ego. It literally took the entire series for that arrogance and pride to literally be beaten and tortured out of her.

She may be the Water Tribe Avatar in the cycle, but I’m honestly not convinced Water is her native element. She’s far too stubbornly bullheaded like an earthbender and far too aggressive and bold like a firebender. If Katara taught Korra everything she knows about waterbending, then she clearly never taught the philosophy behind it.

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u/Kixisbestclone Mar 04 '25

The not fitting water part makes sense even more so when you consider she uses fire the most out of all the elements in the series, and that she has difficulty with air the most which is different from Aang, who had the most problems with earth due to it clashing with how he was raised as an airbender.

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u/The-Mythical-Phoenix Mar 02 '25

Iirc, she wasn’t even able to use the avatar state up until Book 1.

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u/Unable_Deer_773 Mar 01 '25

I imagine most avatar's had a quick chat with a past avatar and then maybe went back for another quick chat a decade later when they needed some info. Honestly I can imagine many avatars learning how to access the past life repository and then never bothering again.

The first few avatar's had fuckin' no one to go back and talk to and they figured it out, now the avatar has a whole ass white lotus order to help.

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u/zernoc56 Mar 02 '25

Fat lot of good the White Lotus did Korra. Kept her isolated away in the South Pole for most of her life until Episode 1. She knew practically nothing about how the world really works until the School of Hard Knocks beat the lessons into her the hard way, repeatedly.

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u/Unable_Deer_773 Mar 02 '25

I mean they provided her with teachers for all the elements and probably other things but yes for the most part they kept her sheltered and not fully aware of the reality of the world.

They really could have done more with the white lotus than they did.

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u/zernoc56 Mar 03 '25

The White Lotus bringing Korra her teachers is a big part of the whole problem.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

No, it's not. The difference is that if Korra had havevjust trusted her father, then it could have been avoided entirely along with the events of s3 and s4.

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u/Few_Plankton_7587 Mar 01 '25

Aang running away is just a matter of him trusting or not trusting his elders too

A matter of trust is all it takes for everything, at some point. You can fold any plot with a single, seemingly insignificant choice.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

Dawg, you can not compare 12 year old kid to 18 year old

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u/Few_Plankton_7587 Mar 01 '25

Dawg, I don't think their age is even relevant here.

They each made a choice with the knowledge they had based on trust and only in hindsight can you really realize how problematic those choices were

There's no comparison to be made. That's just what happened, you can say they both did it but it doesn't matter because you can isolate either one's choice and the observation is the same.

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u/DOOMFOOL Mar 02 '25

You’re exactly right. We can’t compare them at all. Aang is a kid that was able to travel the world and gain real experiences while being raised by a society of wise monks while Korra was a sheltered teen trapped in a single compound with a stifling committee of old men overseeing her every move. No wonder she struggled trusting and making the best decisions

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u/djyaboy Mar 04 '25

I’d pinpoint it more to monk gyatso since most of the other monks were shown to be more “traditional” and inflexible while Gyatso gave Aang the space to mess up/have fun like Korra needed. Don’t get me wrong no ego stroking either in the air temple though Aang had expectations on him that his free spirited way was seemingly going against.

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u/DirtySilicon Mar 01 '25

Yeah, IMO Korea's biggest vices during LoK were not listening and thinking she knew best without the experience to back it up.

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 02 '25

It probably would have also helped to not have had such poor mentors. Tenzin was a bad teacher for her and unfortunately didnt get properly called on it.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 03 '25

Teznin was not a bad teacher. Korra was just too Headstrong, besides ain't like no one else could teach her air bending.

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 03 '25

Tenzin was a poor teacher because he wasnt trying to teach her air bending, he was tryimg to make her into an air nomad. This is repeated in the third season, when he talks to the new air benders he iant trying to help them iniitally, all he can see them as are a nee air nation. Most of his comments show that he wants them to embrace the air nations culture, values, etc regardless of where they once came from

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 04 '25

And yet the moment they embrace the culture, they start to get better at air bending, Case in point, the man who got his head shaved was to predict this opponent's attack pattern.

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 05 '25

The shaved head example was the only one and even then that was utilitarian and not actually universal (not that tenzin didn't shave his daughters heads). And the fact was that these people were from other nations with histories and cultures that may have also faced destruction from the fire nation in the last war. Tenzins desire to get them abandon what they were in favor of his culture might have been less malicious but it was still not appropriate. There are other issues with Tenzin and his ego but those aren't directly tied to his issues as a teacher for Korra.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 05 '25

You do know the war with the Fire Nation was like decades ago at this point in time. None of the people alive in the Korra era besides what's left of team avatar were affected by the fire nation. If anything, most of the cultural stuff has been forgotten in the Korra era anyway, so that's a moot point. And it's not like they were forced to become the new air nation anyway.

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u/Curvol Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

If Aang just nutted up, he could have saved all those lives and the next 100 years would have been entirely avoided!

Edit: oh the meme crowd doesn't meme. They just angry

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u/DrTinyNips Mar 01 '25

Except for the fact that she was older and more experienced than he was when he fought Ozai

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u/Lamplorde Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Her training was almost entirely about mastering the elements. Which she did well (except Air). But she was kept isolated and doesn't really have the experience that comes with reading people. She got manipulated not only by a mentor, but that mentor was also her family member. She had no reason not to trust him, especially since his training seemed to be working previously. It seemed like he was there to train her.

These two Avatars are opposites of each other. Aang was very emotionally mature and had to learn to fight. Korra was a fighter with very little experience with emotions.

She's also started this adventure at 17. Aang is 12 when he starts his. That's only 5 years (Granted, those are an important 5 years in a kids development). Korra spent her whole life sheltered and watched over by the Lotus. Aang was raised by the Air Nomads, and lived a relatively normal life for a while. He socialized with others, he had teachers who taught him ageless wisdom.

Just because Korra is older doesn't mean she is more experienced.

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u/EvangelionOG Mar 01 '25

I cannot second this enough.

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u/Sir_Ridyl Mar 01 '25

No it's not. Korra directly led to Unalaaq gaining control over over the spirit portals and unlocking Vaatu. None of that would have happened if not for Korra as the Avatar was needed to do that.

The Fire Nation was going to attack and kill everyone regardless. The leaders of the Air Temple Aang was raised even TELLS of this when the reference letting Aang knows he's the Avatar before he is 16th.

The Fire Nation doesn't attack because they saw the Avatar has vanished, they didn't know. They Attack the Air Nomads precisely because they knew Aang should be there.

Him staying (unbeknownst to him) would have gotten him killed and possibly in the AS as the emotion toll would have forced him into it.

The equivocation of the two events is tiring.

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u/DOOMFOOL Mar 02 '25

No one sane is arguing that Aang should’ve stayed and fought at the temple. But Aang staying would’ve meant he escapes with Gyato, remaining alive and being able to intervene in the war much sooner after completing his training and before 100 years of war grinds down the rest of the world.

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u/Sir_Ridyl Mar 02 '25

There is no way they escape. There is a literal genocide of the Airbenders. Trying to change the story up to fit your head canon is not going to make the reality that Aang, Gyasto, and Appa would've been cooked alive by an army of SC boosted fire benders. Plus this is when the Dragons were still alive and being used by fire benders. You think Appa is outrunning a couple of dragons?

You literally stay with no sane person would argue this point then tried to argue that exact point.

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u/alutti54 Mar 03 '25

Gyatso was literally planning to run away with aang mere moments after aang ran away on his own

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u/DOOMFOOL Mar 03 '25

🤨 Gyatso was going to leave with Aang well before the invasion. Wtf are you on about with “head canon”, this is flat out told to us in the damn show. You want to be mad so badly you’re ignoring actual canon now 🤦‍♂️

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u/Prestigious-Fox5640 Mar 03 '25

The difference is aang at that point in his arc couldn't have prevented a genocide, his presence wouldnt have changed anything and only had the potential to make things worse. Korra is supposedly a master of all 4 elements by s2 right? She's talked up by her fans as an inherently better avatar right? Her presence could've changed the outcome, to say these are the same is to say Korra couldn't have stopped unavaatu no matter what. Personally I don't blame Korra for the cycle being broken, neither do I blame aang for the genocide of the air temple, I just think they're inherently different. Korra being in the spirit world fighting did have a different outcome than if she wasn't there at all, aang being there wouldn't have stopped the fire nation.

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u/Randver_Silvertongue Mar 01 '25

I disagree. Gyatso was going to run away with him. Aang wouldn't have been at the temple, but the war would have ended sooner.

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u/atomicq32 Mar 01 '25

So you still agree that Aang should have left and not stayed and fought. Even if Gyatso lived, every other Airbender still would have died.

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u/Randver_Silvertongue Mar 01 '25

Nobody knew the genocide was coming, only that there was a possible war coming. And Gyatso would have taken Aang to the Earth Kingdom or Water Tribe to begin his journey. Aang's training would have ended with him learning the Avatar State and the war would have ended much sooner.

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u/atomicq32 Mar 01 '25

I never said anything about the war. I said the Air Benders would've died, that's what the meme is talking about.

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u/Randver_Silvertongue Mar 01 '25

I agree that most of them would have died but the rest would've rallied under Aang and possibly sought refuge in the Northern Water Tribe. The main reason the genocide was successful is because the airbenders that weren't at the temples didn't know what was going on, allowing the Fire Nation to lure them into traps. But the point is that Aang running away on his own was a mistake. And the series rightfully frames his decision as such. It even heavily implies that Gyatso was going to run away with him, since he showed up in his room in the middle of the night declaring that he was not going to let the council separate them. You could argue that he was just going to protest their decision, but I find it unlikely that he would want to disturb Aang just to tell him that. And Gyatso had already been established as a bit of a rebel prior.

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u/Kwaku-Anansi Mar 02 '25

I think, at minimum, it's fair to say Aang (i.e., via the Avatar state) could've protected ENOUGH monks until the end of the comet that (over decades in hiding) the nomads could've rebuilt. Not that it was Aangs fault, but automatically saying he would've died and the airbenders virtual extinction was an inevitability is a bit of a copout

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u/BlueThespian Mar 03 '25

Things happen for a reason, he was not ready and being hunted by the fire nation would have sucked x100.

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u/MegaDelphoxPlease Mar 01 '25

I mean, at the very least Roku would’ve had a round 2 and probably killed off Sozin for good.

Who knows if that would’ve scared off the Fire Nation, or caused them to attack harder. But yeah like 80% of the Nomads at the temples would’ve been killed before Roku fixed his K/D ratio.

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u/BoatSouth1911 Mar 01 '25

Not to mention he was a child. Of course people are going to be more lenient with a ten year old than with a grown woman

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u/Flashy-Blueberry-776 Mar 02 '25

Lmao to think Aang would’ve done anything more than also die is laughable.

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u/of_kilter Mar 02 '25

The point is that we shouldn’t blame korra, not that we should blame aang

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u/Charming-Object-863 Mar 02 '25

Aang was 12. A literal child who lost all of his friends because of something he couldn’t control.

Korra was (probably) 17. Nearly an adult who was tricked by someone when she could’ve talked to Wan about why the spirit portals were closed.

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

He ran from his avatar duties which led to the extinction of his entire ethnic group, and colonization of the entire world.

Suki's village got burned down because he wanted to ride the elephant Koi.

This boy basically died in the Avatar state after being told in the most direct way possible "if you die in the Avatar state the reincarnation cycle ends."

Aang is the same guy who stopped sokka and Katara from seeing their dad because he has abandonment issues.

The same guy who called upon the past avatars for an echo chamber of his opinion only to get mad at them when they don't agree with him.

Aang got really lucky that the plot clutched in the end for him with the introduction of lion turtles.

I like aang as well but man this dude made hella mistakes as an avatar.

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u/Charming-Object-863 Mar 02 '25

1st he was litterally 12.

2nd fair

3rd he didn’t know azula could use lightning

4th fair

5th he was asking for ways to beat him at first

6th so did Korra and even more so

7th Korra made more.

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

Aang being 12 doesn't change much, he chose to run from his avatar duties before he even had any real duties. I could see if the war had started then I could maybe understand. But him just fleeing to flee...

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u/NinjaNate123 Mar 03 '25

Then explain what would happen other than him literally dying. The answer is so obvious I could assume you're just ragebaiting

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

I don't get your point? was he not 12 when he stopped the war?

The monk who taught him how to control the avatar state knew monk gyatso so he would have still been around.

And aang managed to learn all the elements in nearly a day. So I'm really confused as to what your point is?

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u/Charming-Object-863 Mar 03 '25

It is just ragebaiting but it’s 100% working

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

Firstly the only real mistakes Korra made that came with big consequences was trusting tarloq, and leaving the portals open which turned out to be a huge plus because new air benders.

The biggest fuck up Korra made in this that was actually her fault was not popping the Avatar state when she was chained up fighting zaheer.

But for the most part Korra wasn't out here making mistakes outside of being a bit stubborn.

Lastly I will say season 2 ending of Korra was a bit plot armory but still played off of things that had been introduced. But yea S2 is undoubtedly the worst season of Korra.

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u/will_1m_not Mar 01 '25

A better comparison would’ve been

“Sukki’s village was burned down because Aang decided to ride the elephant koi”

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u/SomeNotTakenName Mar 01 '25

Honestly losing the connection to the previous avatars wasn't really Korra's fault. Her teacher, Tensin, was quite obviously not as attuned to spiritual matters as he wanted to think. He failed at teaching Korra because of his lack of experience and his approach not working for her. Unaloq may be an evil bastard but his knowledge, skill and experience with spirits and the spirit world was real.

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u/Lamplorde Mar 01 '25

I disagree with blaming Aang for leaving. He just would have died.

I also don't blame Korra for the previous cycles loss. The big bad of that season was a manipulative mastermind who was related to her and became her mentor. She had very little reason not to trust him, especially since what he was teaching her worked. It seemed like he was being a good mentor and uncle. Blaming Korra for the villains actions is the equivalent of blaming Aang for "letting" Ozai take over most of the world.

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u/National_Job_6847 Mar 05 '25

I keep forgetting unaloq and korra are related it's weird till a remember how similar her and her dad look to him

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

No, it's not. The difference is that if Korra had just trusted her father, then it could have been avoided entirely along with the events of s3 and s4.

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u/AZDfox Mar 01 '25

Sounds like her father's fault for lying to her her whole life

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

Gee, I wonder why, considering she got kidnapped and was almost killed as a baby.

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u/AZDfox Mar 01 '25

So we agree that it's not Korra's fault

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

Nope, it's still her fault. Hell, I don't blame her for being mad, but instead of doing the smart thing and asking them why she let her uncle play her like a fiddle and then after experiencing Wan's whole backstory, she still left the sprit relm opened, letting out who knows what.

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u/BigoteMexicano Mar 01 '25

That's not really on Kora, but rather the writers. Probably the worst decision on their part in LOK.

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u/Aggravating-Role2004 Mar 01 '25

Fr, it's really hard to believe her losing that fight.

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u/unclepoondaddy Mar 01 '25

Is it? Her uncle is one of the most spiritual characters and was fused with a much more powerful spirit in vaatu

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u/HalayChekenKovboy Earthbender 🗿 Mar 01 '25

The whole thing with Raava and Vaatu was also bad writing. Too black and white, not to mention incredibly boring.

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u/unclepoondaddy Mar 01 '25

Okay I can maybe understand not liking the whole black and white thing but the avatar Wan episode was anything but boring. Honestly, it might be my favorite episode from both series

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u/HalayChekenKovboy Earthbender 🗿 Mar 01 '25

I do like Avatar Wan himself, and I did like the episode. What I found boring was the concept of pure good and pure evil being introduced to a formerly very Buddhist inspired world. The Avatar was formerly supposed to upkeep balance and not just keep the Big Bad Evil Guy™ at bay. I don't have any issues with people who liked that aspect, I just personally hated it and found it to be an absolute bore.

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 02 '25

Not to mention also contradicting what made spirits become unbalanced was often damage to their sacred places or oathbreaking/confusion.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

which is crazy cause the avatar was never about black and white. It was about balance.

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u/Aggravating-Role2004 Mar 01 '25

Sure but that doesn't mean he instantly knows how to utilize Vaatu's power

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u/unclepoondaddy Mar 01 '25

Why not? He’s literally been prepping for this since korra was born

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u/Aggravating-Role2004 Mar 01 '25

How do you "prep" for receiving a power that's never been obtained before?

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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Mar 01 '25

by being bryke

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u/Cass0wary_399 Mar 01 '25

Without the soul sucking tongue tentacle move Korra wouldn’t have lost right where she was standing.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 01 '25

Comparing a 12 year old who possibly saved the avatar cycle to a 20 year old who was repeat told not to trust someone by her parents, mentor/previous avatars son, still doing it learning the whole story giving him a second chance and messing up is wild

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u/Wolf-Majestic Mar 02 '25

Tu put it more in context, Korra was lock down almost her entire life at this point. All other avatars travelled to learn the cultural connections to an element as this is thought to be best way of learning.

Korra was in a cage. Her dad, and the son of the previous avatar told her it was Aang's will, until she realized it was their own. Her own dad caged her up. I think it's wild for people not to be like Korra : mad at him and unable to trust him after that.

Also, the one who revealed it was actually the bad guy, but manipulation is one hell of a bitch, and Unalaq knew exactly what he was doing by revealing it all.

She still learned things from this experience, still did the right thing by turning on him when she realized he was messed up, he bested her in a fight and took advantage of it to rip off Ravaa, and people will still say it's her fault.

Her whole arc is to go from hot headed to more level headed, to grow as a person instead of growing her element mastering (like Aang).

I'm a bit sick of this whole Aang's mistake vs Korra's mistake + Korra bashing because she has a strong personality.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

If that’s the way you are gonna justify korra’s mistakes and how she makes the same mistake like 5 times I’d say u have a long road ahead of ya

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

Korra has ADHA yes it took her a while to learn from her mistakes but she learned from them. She was trying to find the way to be the best avatar she could in her own way.

Sometimes people have to learn things the hard way.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

Korra has adhd is the most wild take I’ve heard in a while 🤦‍♂️

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

She does. She super ADHD codes!

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

Mhm sure buddy

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

Your talking about sure buddy instead of actually analyzing her character.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

I am literally agreeing with you, why are u so defensive 🤦‍♂️😭

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u/Snuffles-The-Bunny Mar 02 '25

In what world is mhmm sure buddy agreement? That's that most passive aggressive way to agree with someone ever.

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u/TyrsPath Mar 02 '25

Oh my god stop repeating this BS. Korra was not warned not to trust Unalaq. Yall are projecting your mistrust of him and distorting your memory, because that was not what happened. Literally no one knew that Unalaq was with Vaatu. Also Korra is not 20 in S2, she was 17 at most.

Also Katara saved the Avatar cycle when Aang fucked up and got zapped, by your logic. Good lord Avatar fans lose all brain cells when talking about Korra.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

Honestly whatever helps u sleep tonight at this point, korra was really good not saying she wasnt, its just that the writing had major flaws

but might i remind you, that aang saved the avatar cycle, had no parents, was tasked at saving the world at the age of 12

meanwhile korra had great parents, lived in a castle, was trained by the most elite masters of each elements, had the most power bodygaurd in the whole world, disobeyed every single instruction given to her, went against her father and aangs son/her teacher and lost the avatar cycle, and not to mention broke 2 boys hearts and lost her bending twice apperently

im not saying that she is a bad avatar she is lovely, but the way mickelodeon went about the show kinda ruined korra's arc.

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u/pokemastertails Mar 02 '25

"possibly saved the avatar cycle"

yeah right, he almost destroyed the cycle entirely, and he would've if Katara wasn't there to save his ass

Also, she had no reason to not trust Unalaq, what he taught her was working better than whatever Tenzin and her father were doing. Unalaq was more qualified + he was her uncle + her dad had been lying to her about his past. She had no reason to trust her parents - even though they're her parents- and absolutely no reason to doubt her uncle

+ age doesn't matter here, we can all agree that Aang is much more experienced seeing as he was forced to save the world at such a young age, Korra was sheltered her entire life because the White Lotus treated her like some vulnerable little baby.

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

Aang is 12 year old, u cant compare that to what korra had, "She had no reason not to trust Unalaq,"

Might i remind you that he was suspected of conspiring with the red lotus, Korra was warned by her father and aangs son/her own teacher, the two people who gave korra everything and taught her till she was 17, Her father also told her that Unalaq was jealous of him,

Korra was pampered and protected and still she went rouge i think they should have kept her there longer.

and if u think korra was smart in trusting Unalaq maybe you are just as naive as korra

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u/pokemastertails Mar 02 '25

First off, Korra didn't know that Unalaq was part of the red lotus nor did she know what the red lotus was, Her father tried to say that Unalaq was jealous of him, but it was obvious that Tonraq held a huge grudge for his brother, if you were witnessing that, it wouldn't be so far fetched to think that Tonraq was just saying things to win Korra back, and he lied to Korra about his past so it isn't much of a reach to think he's lying again. Obviously Korra won't think that harshly of her own father but why listen to him when Unalaq is right there , proving that he is more capable in stopping spirits than anyone else.

And obviously shes going to go rouge! if you had been sheltered in your home your entire life, of course the first thing you're going to do when you're finally free is everything you couldn't do before. She finally has the freedom to think for herself, obviously shes going to take every opportunity she gets. That was reflected in the VERY FIRST season, she snuck away to live the life she wanted and explore things she wasn't allowed to experience rather than being stuck in the air temple/ at home

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u/AgroMasked Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

i think it might be time to watch the show again bud, no use in my explaining the same thing and you denying it again and again.

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u/ConsoleCleric_4432 Mar 01 '25

I'm the Avatar and YOU gotta deal with it!

Words spoken moments before disaster

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

You really think Aang would have made a difference there?

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u/Zeelacious Mar 01 '25

He was a master savant air bender, and the avatar. The air nomads already knew that the fire nation was overeaching, and were trying to crash course him through the other elements. Maybe he wouldn't have made a different outcome but seeing as Monk Gyatso took out plenty before he fell I think the Avatar could have been what made it a fair fight. Also on a side note if he had stayed and there was communication to the other sages of the avatar they would have known that the avatar was at the southern air temple, water tribe, or earth kingdom, then what would be the point of the genocide? He would be who knows where and the plan would be pointless.

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u/PronouncedEye-gore Mar 01 '25

You think the zero combat experience child was going to hang against an army and they guy who once bested him in the avatar state. When he had much more xp and control with it...wild.

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u/Zeelacious Mar 01 '25

He beat zuko and crew day one.

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u/Sepentine- Mar 02 '25

Zuko young and inexperienced himself, a small crew on a small destroyer after they successfully captured him isn't comparable to an entire invasion force

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u/StarOfTheSouth Mar 02 '25

And none of them knew anything about fighting Airbenders, which is half the reason Aang got away.

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u/Sepentine- Mar 02 '25

Aang would've died multiple times too had the fire nation not been trying to capture him, even then he got captured on several occasions

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u/StarOfTheSouth Mar 02 '25

I'm referring to "day one", when he surrendered to Zuko. Half the reason he escaped was because no one on that ship knew how to fight Airbenders, which would not be true of the Firebenders that attacked during Sozin's Comet.

So the win he did get here wouldn't transfer to a hypothetical "if he had stayed" scenario.

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u/KadajjXIII Mar 02 '25

Don't forget, said force was literally super charged by Sozin's Comet

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u/PronouncedEye-gore Mar 01 '25

You mean successfully ran away? He sure did.

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u/tsubasa__williams Mar 03 '25

you think a 12 year old kid who only knows air bending would beat an army of fire benders with Sozin's comet boos on top of that

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u/Gullible-Rain-3554 Mar 02 '25

I dislike people discrediting Korra for not beating the dark Avatar, as if Aang would have done better.🙄

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u/gergablerg Mar 02 '25

Was about to get a little heated until the (sarcasm)

Funny one, you got me 🙃

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u/KUROOFTHEKUSH Mar 02 '25

This is a crazy opinion.

Avatar or not, aang remaining to train with his people would have resulted in him dying. He was only 11 and the FN had the comet.

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u/Sonicrules9001 Mar 03 '25

Not saying this because I hate Korra or anything and of course there is more to it but Korra's failure was a direct result of her actions and things wouldn't have happened if she didn't do what she did whereas Aang has no involvement in his culture being killed and if he stayed, he would have been killed. To compare these two situations is kind of silly because they are completely different.

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u/Business-Ad7289 Mar 01 '25

Anybody who thinks a scared untrained child is comparable to a trained adult that trusted the most evil looking dude when everyone else warned her not to:

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u/Spirited_Dust_3642 Mar 01 '25

Korra was 16 And "evil looking" is quite subjective. He was just a normal water tribe guy, he seemed stern, not mean. Which is consistent with his profession. Furthermore, his spiritual knowledge was very high, which contributed to her believing in him. Plus, Korra had just found out that everyone she trusted had lied to her and kept her trapped in the Water Tribe.

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u/Migdalian Mar 01 '25

He was also a family member...

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u/Spirited_Dust_3642 Mar 01 '25

That's what makes the "baddest appearance" incredible, unalaq is korra's uncle, he literally looks the same as her father only with more sex. Like, he's just skinny

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 01 '25

that she never met because he's not to be trusted

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u/AZDfox Mar 01 '25

She's definitely met him before because she talks about knowing his children

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 02 '25

Or because she was kept on a compound for most of her life. Korra was poorly served by people with good intentions.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 02 '25

See good intentions. Why did she never ask about this. Like, yeah, they lied to her, but she never asked why. Instead, she jumped in front of the first person who dangled the carrot and played like a fittle. Also, for a second, let's ignore the whole avatar eraser thing. Why on God's green earth would she leave the spirit relm wide open after witnessing Wan's whole anime back story? Like hardly anything good has come from it and now it's more than likely the reason why the world is fucked now!

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 02 '25

Meta reason, airbenders

in universe reason, a freer exchange can alloe for actual communication and understandibg. As it is Unalaque was a damn psycho but could get the spirits on his side and also knew spirit stuff better than most.

Korra also probably saw few people, outside of immediate family and her teachers. Unaloque was just one more person she mever saw. The White Lotus meant well but their decision was ultimately the wrong one, though i will admit that hindsight is also 20 20

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 03 '25

Again, we see countless examples of why the spirits can't co-exist with humans. Hell The spirits were the reason humans only lived on the lion turtles. Also, Korra never tried to communicate or bridge a connection between the human and spirits. All she did was beat up either side whenever they action out and used the spirit world as a honeymoon spot.

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u/IsoSly64 Mar 03 '25

Also, even after the air benders were brought back, why would she leave it open? There's no reason to. They actively gain nothing but more problems from keeping it opening, like people figuring out they can make weapons with the destructive power of a mini death star.

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u/Migdalian Mar 01 '25

Is it established that they never wet...they seem quite acquainted?

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u/MoorAlAgo Mar 03 '25

And "evil looking" is quite subjective

You don't understand. Korra should've noticed what the animators were going for by drawing him looking evil and shifty. Korra's media literacy is dead smh.

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u/Spirited_Dust_3642 Mar 03 '25

There is no television in the water tribe. Have you noticed that Korra is the only only daughter of the water tribe? All other families have at least two

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u/Lukraniom Mar 01 '25

Korra was 18, and the rest is right

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u/SilentBlade45 Mar 01 '25

And if Aang had stayed he would have died too.

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u/TyrsPath Mar 02 '25

Once again, yall are making up this "everyone else warned her not to trust him" shit when that's not what happened. And Korra is like 17, barely an adult. Your gif is you.

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u/Regular_Industry_373 Mar 01 '25

And being there would probably not have saved his race.

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u/Templarofsteel Mar 02 '25

Controlled evacuations could have happened or word he spread. Assuming his friend planned to take him and run word maybhave travelled fast enough to let watrr and earth get on war footing and perhaps help some of the air tribe at nearby temples or who were out and about

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u/beanman12312 Mar 02 '25

People don't mostly hate Korra for that tho, they hate TLOK because the world building is ruined and that move only further changed a cool aspect for no narrative reason except forced drama.

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u/xX0LucarioXx Mar 02 '25

It's almost as if bad story telling can't be saved by a good idea. Though also proves good story telling can redeem any idea.

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u/ButWhatAboutBoomer Mar 03 '25

I don't hold it against Korra, but I do hold it against her show.

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u/Strifeson7 Mar 01 '25

Aang was a young boy who'd found out he was the avatar way too young and didn't know the fire nation was about to attack. He hadn't even attempted to bend any element other than air.

Korra was a fully realised avatar who was about 18, had been using 3/4 element for around a decade at the point with some experience with air. She knew she was going into a fight and was already familiar with vaatu.

Quite different scenarios.

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u/CyanLight9 Mar 01 '25

And here comes everyone taking this seriously.

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u/Khan_Ida Mar 01 '25

I've seen garbage takes but this particular stench is quite foul.

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u/JackRaid Mar 01 '25 edited Mar 01 '25

Aang's entire race was destroyed regardless of if he ran away. Korra's mistakes directly caused the destruction of the old avatar's knowledge and souls. She did a spiritual burning of Alexandria's library.

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u/Chef_Sizzlipede Mar 01 '25

and she was like "eh ima leave the portals open" after that, which yeah......BAD IDEA

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u/Bomberboy1013 Airbender 💨 Mar 01 '25

I don’t blame either of them, i blame Nick and the writers. The entire season was a failure that is hard to watch and ruins a lot from The Last Airbender. In The Last Airbender they managed to handle the genocide of an entire race well, they made it an interesting plot point and made it into a good piece of character motivation. If i’m being honest the only good thing that Season 2 of Korra did was Varrick, but that’s only because i like Varrick. And Varrick isn’t even likable in Season 2, you gotta wait for Season 4.

Also, Korra was dumb enough to trust her uncle, Aang ran away because he was just a kid who had to face the fact that he is the Avatar and it was too much pressure for him, and even if Aang stayed back he couldn’t have saved his people.

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u/Various_Sprinkles870 Mar 02 '25

We need to start blaming Mako and Bolin more, Korra had Vaatu dead to rights and all they had to do was hold him off for maybe 30 seconds more. My GOAT Tenzin would never have let that happen.

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u/DragonWisper56 Mar 03 '25

I mean to be fair angg is a literal child. korra is older than him, so I can see why they would hold her to a higher standard.

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u/nintenerd2 Mar 03 '25

I just think for a franchise like Avatar it makes more sense to have one villlian which is a complaint I have with Korra as it had multiple and I feel the first one is by far the best and most intimidating imo

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u/outofmaxx Mar 04 '25

That's dumb, but also, Aang is pretty consistently portrayed as an idiotic child who makes a lot of mistakes, so people feel like it's in character to be mess up a lot. Whereas Korea is supposed to be more intelligent and competent, so it stands out more/is more scrutinized when she makes a really obvious mistake.

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u/Qverlord37 Mar 05 '25

The air nomads dying because Aang ran away implied that 1 element Aang could defeat the comet amped fire nation army. Even with the avatar state, that's not going to be easy, and the avatar state does not make aang invincible. Taking on an army of amped fire bender might yield high casualty for the opposition, but one good hit would end the cycle right there.

I think if Aang didn't run away, he would still have to flee when the attack happens. Staying to fight is not only foolish, but probably what Sozin counts on.

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u/Upper-Time-1419 Mar 06 '25

I mean, I don't hate the character b/c of that, people just don't like that moment b/c it killed off the idea of Avatars communicating between lives, which is just a lot of wasted potential.

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u/bearamongus19 Mar 01 '25

One was a 10-year-old kid who had just found out he was the avatar and had to save the world.

The other has been trained to be the avatar since she was 4 and still got spanked and left the portals open.

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u/Fricki97 Mar 01 '25

No avatar ever before had to deal with another avatar...not even Wan

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u/bearamongus19 Mar 01 '25

And now the new avatar won't see any avatars thanks to korra

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u/Fyrrys Mar 01 '25

It's as if the writers wanted to make the avatar a person who is capable of failure to teach us the lesson that nobody is capable of being perfect

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '25

The untrained avatar would’ve been slain by the fire nation had he encountered them so soon.

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u/OkGarbage3095 Firebender 🔥 Mar 02 '25

Aang is a baby and must be protected. Korra is a grown ass woman by the standard of the time. And received over a decade of training.

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u/ldsman213 Mar 01 '25

Aang ran away because he was a child and did what children do. Legend of Korra was just weird

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u/SinesPi Mar 02 '25

Good point. However we start the show off having lost the Airbenders and their potential contribution to the story. It was baked in.

Korra losing the past Avatars takes away a cool narrative device. We lost something we already had.