In a world where lion turtles grant the power of controlling the elements, every animal is a mix of two animals, the moon spirit is a fish, giant libraries can just sink into sand like it's jello, etc., are trans people really what brings down suspension of disbelief for you?
I meant things like operations likely weren't available like plastic surgery probably wasn't available. Wasn't meant to be a dig at specifically trans, more just the state of surgery in that world.
But again, why would they need actual universe plastic surgery? They have Koh and the Mother of Faces, it's not that much of a stretch to think maybe she has a cousin who is the Uncle of Genitals who rearranges them to match with your gender identity
Honestly the technology wouldn't even need to be that advanced when they have waterbenders with healing abilities. As long as they have anesthetic of some kind it would totally be feasible during Last Airbender.
Also, keep in mind that Yakone probably would've had that surgery a good 30 years or so before the events of the Korra series
I mean plenty of trans people back in the day and now don’t want or need bottom surgery and that doesn’t stop them from being trans or having kids. Another thing is that regardless of trans people beards exist and a bunch of gay people have kids before they accept they might be gay. Also some people do surrogacy sperm donations and so on. There’s quite a lot of options basically for people to headcanon whatever they want for fun.
I think that's just a matter of opinion on the first point and we'll just have to agree to disagree.
I said nothing about gay people not being able to have kids so no need to bring that up. I was just commenting on what surgeries might be available in those times like plastic surgery probably wasn't available.
Surrogacy sperm donation would be them just having sex with the surrogate mother as I never mentioned modern day but more the world of avatar which doesn't look like it would have the technology for sperm surrogacy.
Well I’ve met people who are trans who don’t want bottom surgery, and they are in fact trans and can reproduce so none of that’s an opinion other than perhaps you think they aren’t trans without the surgery which is just kinda douchy.
Your comment was irrelevant because you simply don’t need those surgeries for trans people to reproduce with a gay character and in fact they might make it harder (or impossible) depending on the bottom surgery but I threw in other explanations too since it had a disbelieving tone.
And surrogacy and sperm donation is literally just some sort of intercourse to reproduce, (although I’m sure some people probably did it without the sex act itself and just shoved a sperm donation up in there before it became more scientific) there’s nothing about the terms that requires egg implantation or anything else modern, our association with that stuff for those words is very recent compared to their relative history
You might find it douchy but it's just an opinion. I think world would be clearer with separate terms for people who have had operations and those who haven't.
HRT has been around for a long time, but I imagine in a fantasy world with completely different animals it'd be even easier to obtain (specifically in this case I'm referring to pre-synthetic oestrogens as opposed to pre-synthetic testosterone, but honestly either could work)
You can be pre-op and have kids that way (for Tophs case it'd be her getting pregnant with a pre/no op trans woman as the sire, and vice versa for Zuko) if we go the bio route.
Like, these are all things that existed in our real world at the technology level the Avatar universe is set in, and we don't even have access to things like bending to help us progress, I don't see why these existing in the Avatar universe is suddenly out of the picture
Second paragraph seems to be agreeing with me as you're talking about pre or no operation which is just what I was talking about. Like plastic surgery, gender operation change seems ahead of its time for Aang in my opinion.
HRT seemed to just originate in the 1940s so long after Aang time. Yes, there's could be animals or plants that replicate oestrogen or testosterone hormone level changes but that doesn't go against what I said about operations.
My dude, trans people who get bottom surgery are the ones who can't have kids, not the other way around. You are so confused. People who transition in the world of Avatar would be perfectly able to have children
I was just replying to the person saying trans people existed by commenting on the logistics of surgeries probably available in Aangs time. Like plastic surgery probably wasn't available either.
I guess depends what you mean by trans people as I was just saying operations to transition probably weren't available in their time as they're quite advanced.
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u/Frequent_Dig1934 Apr 22 '25
Don't toph and zuko (separately) have kids in legend of korra?