r/AvatarMemes 7d ago

LoK endless wisdom

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u/FaeLurker 7d ago

i guess i'll always be in this mess: half these comments are just bashing on korra as a person. even got some giving hypothetical situations to then say "ugh korra you are acting obnoxious." like you didn't write the hypothetical...jesus

korra didn't kill the avatars; she was fighting for her life and the line got cut by antagonist. idk where people feel justified to go off like korra is actively doing this to you personally. jfc move on and laugh at the meme that is about the avatar state.

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u/checkedsteam922 7d ago

People will find any damn excuse to hate on Korra it's so annoying.

In fact, imma get downvoted to hell, but I don't even think this was bad writing. In a show with conflict there need to be stakes, and sometimes, the heroes need to lose some, otherwise it just feels bland. Korra does this like no other, and that's why I like the show so much.

But people just want everything to be the exact state as it was, like "the golden days" so they can endlessly praise it (even though they still can, it's not like atla was removed from existence).

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u/snowman92 6d ago

It's not bad writing and people saying it is get me as riled up as people blaming Korra as if it was a choice the character made. Exactly like you said, conflicts need stakes. Sometimes we need to see consequences that last when heroes don't achieve a total win.

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u/Mandemon90 6d ago

What people think Avatar line was: 1000 years of wisdom

What the Avatar line actually was: 1000 years of people fucking up and creating problems for their successor to fix

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u/Odd-Cucumber1935 6d ago

Past lives allowed the next lives to know why these problems existed in order to be able to resolve them more effectively or more consciously.

And also speaking with past lives was rrally an important element of the concept of the avatar, as important as the bending of the 4 elements or the reincarnation, removing it is just removing an important part of its concept.

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u/checkedsteam922 6d ago

There need to be stakes, and the world and ot concepts evolve, that's just how it be.

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u/MrZokeyr 7d ago

God, thank you! I can't stand people constantly bashing Korra for shit that isn't even her fault. (I'm realizing now that the following says "you" a lot. I don't mean "you, the person I'm replying to" as I agree with you. I just felt the need to add a rant to the discussion and I'm piggybacking off your comment lol)

"She cut off the past avatars!" Yeah, no, that was NOT an active decision. That entire plot point was basically as close as you can get in a kids show to a character being sexually assaulted/raped. People who blame her for that are the same kind of people I cover my drink around.

Also, Aang cuts off contact with Roku willingly in the comics because his advice was unhelpful and irrelevant in the new era. Hell, even if you didn't read the comics, the series finale of the show explicitly shows that none of the past avatars are able to offer the answer he needs. Korra no longer having access to past lives changes basically nothing. If anything (and I'd like to clarify—from a writing standpoint—as what happened to her was traumatic af), it's a better outcome. It shows that this is a new era, the wisdom of the old world is no longer applicable and this society needs to look forward, not back. It's making the best out of an awful, fucked up situation.

I've heard similar stories from people who have been raped. That kind of trauma doesn't ever really go away. But in just about every case I've heard about from both friends and stories online, there's a singular silver-lining that they reach that helps them to keep going: "I'm still alive. I can't undo what happened, but I'm still here." Korra is a survivor trying to make the best of what happened, and people have the fucking AUDACITY to blame her.

And if anyone responds "it's not that deep, bro," I just KNOW you failed English class. Every story has some kind of deeper meaning, lesson, metaphor, allegory, etc.—even if the writer didn't intend it—and your inability to comprehend that is incredibly sad.

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u/Kellar21 5d ago

The whole issue with your comparison is that Korra was actively fighting an enemy most Avatars at her age would absolutely demolish and she lost the fight. That is it.

Aang at 16 would have kicked Unalaq's ass so hard it wouldn't even be funny.

But Korra lost that fight in a pretty stupid way, and it's more bad writing than the character fault.

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u/MrZokeyr 5d ago

Uh no? No avatar could have won that fight unscathed because it's not an enemy that any avatar could have possibly been prepared for. And everyone praises Aang for his abilities (and yes, he was an excellent and very powerful avatar), but he barely won against Ozai—that spirit-bending move nearly failed.

And Korra didn't lose the fight, she won at a great cost. That's not bad writing. What would have been bad writing is if she won unscathed as that undermines how dangerous the concept of a dark avatar is. Of all the writing issues the show has at times, the Unalaq fight is not one of them. People just call it "bad writing" because we don't get to see Aang anymore and they're upset about it. I'm upset too, but that was the whole point of the scene—that kind of trauma is upsetting. That's good writing. A story that makes you feel negative emotions does not mean it's a bad story.

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u/Kellar21 5d ago

Aang could have killed Ozai at any practically moment after he got AS, the moment he went AS Ozai couldn’t even touch him. The spirit bending thing was the complicated part

Dark Avatar Unalaq was less impressive than Ozai with the Comet, guy was basically a somewhat empowered Waterbender with fancy moves. His physical feats simply don’t measure up that much.

Korra lost that fight and had to go for a Rematch later with some weird giant spirit stuff.

The whole thing was just ruining one of the best parts of Avatar and just worked to make people dislike Korra more for being associated with breaking the Avatar Cycle.

Korra got defeated too easily, her AS didn’t seem to empower her that much compared to her base form.

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u/Kellar21 5d ago

Aang could have killed Ozai at any practically moment after he got AS, the moment he went AS Ozai couldn’t even touch him. The spirit bending thing was the complicated part

Dark Avatar Unalaq was less impressive than Ozai with the Comet, guy was basically a somewhat empowered Waterbender with fancy moves. His physical feats simply don’t measure up that much.

Korra lost that fight and had to go for a Rematch later with some weird giant spirit stuff.

The whole thing was just ruining one of the best parts of Avatar and just worked to make people dislike Korra more for being associated with breaking the Avatar Cycle.

Korra got defeated too easily, her AS didn’t seem to empower her that much compared to her base form.

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u/rmorrin 7d ago

I don't blame Korra. I blame bad writing 

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u/Lucifer_Crowe 6d ago

It's the way for me we get the whole bit with Eska and Desna freeing Bolin and Mako only for them to arrive and basically do nothing

(And why couldn't Raava pull Vaatu out like that?)

Let's not forget Tenzin putting finding his daughter before stopping the apocalypse

Like it would take 30 seconds for them all to jump Unalaaq and end him, once that's done Korra can shut the portal and they can go find Jinora

Just terrible choice all around

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u/Alderan922 7d ago

I don’t hate Korra the individual, I hate Korra the series, where the writers took that decision.

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u/ghigoli 7d ago

idk maybe it was just her line that got cut. we do know you can still contact old avatars in other ways often by relics.

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u/FireLordObamaOG 6d ago

It’s arguable that aang could only interact with the relics because the past lives were still connected to him.

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u/JPldw 5d ago

As much as I love this show, the fandom has a serious problem when talking about it's characters

They turned Kyoshi into a bloodlusted murderer, turned Kuruk into a lazy surfer who never did anything, turned Roku into an incompetent fool who caused the 100 year war, turned Aang into a literal saint who was incapable of doing anything wrong or committing mistakes, and Korra into a Malicious asshole that destroyed the connections on purpose

It just becomes tiering after so much flanderisation

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u/Pegasusisamansman 4d ago

The fandom when they talk about the past avatars, I still don't like Korra but I 100% blame the writers for that, specially since the most interesting villains Amon and Zaheer were ruined by their shitty writing