Last Kryptonian and Last Airbender

[u/OkGarbage3095]

[u/PencilandBrush]

Luke Skywalker exemplifies this trope; few things make me happier in fiction than a lead protagonist taking the high road, sticking to their moral compass, & choosing peace in the face of destruction.

[u/ApostleOfDeath → u/PencilandBrush]

I believe everyone in the Death Star would disagree with that

[u/PencilandBrush → u/ApostleOfDeath]

Fair point regarding A New Hope, but in Luke’s defense - in the moment his only options were either destroy a space station or refuse and enable the space station’s path towards destroying civilized planet after civilized planet.

However, when Luke comes full circle in Episode VI after much insight & character development - we see Luke ultimately choose pacifism leading towards the simultaneous redemption of Anakin and the safety of the Rebellion. Luke refuses his predecessors (Yoda & Obi-Wan) insisting he must “destroy Vader” while ignoring Sidious’ lure to fight - choosing peace and saving the galaxy.

Admittedly I don’t know much about Superman, but Luke’s arc is actually quite comparable to Aang’s. Ultimately in the end they both choose peace while having their respective Death Star and Moon Spirit moments earlier on lol.

[u/ApostleOfDeath → u/PencilandBrush]

The difference between Aang and Luke is, Luke was willing to die to redeem his father without falling to the dark side by killing Sidious with hate while Aang was trying to avoid killing Ozai because of his beliefs.

Falling into the Dark Side is a bigger threat than changing your world views.

[u/LaxPad]

That is just crude understanding of Aang's predecessor message.

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/LaxPad]

What do you mean?

Every single Avatar before him told him to kill the fire lord. That was like..a huge part of his conflict right before the end?

[u/LaxPad → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

Each of them narrated to Aang their stories and what was their takeaway from it. They never made any recommendations to him but only provided their "wisdom".

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/LaxPad]

Their wisdom was recommendations.

Though I’ll admit, I was wrong and none of them outright stated he should kill the fire lord, they all shared a story about what could happen if you don’t.

Roku told him his intentions is what lead to the war, and that Aang needs to be decisive and be certain whether or not he should kill him.

Kyoshi and Kuruk follow similar sentiments.

Meanwhile Yangchen told him that his culture as an Air nomad does not supersede his duty as an Avatar, and her advice was basically « stop being selfish and end the fire lord »

Paraphrasing but you get the gist.

[u/LaxPad → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

I wish their advice were so black and white.

Let me ask you this, if he had not been taught energy bending, how would he have stopped Ozai?

He would need a way to neutralize Ozai during peak of his powers.

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/LaxPad]

If you’ve concluded that this conversation is black and white from me obviously simplifying what the avatar’s stated then I don’t know what to tell you? Even called out that I was paraphrasing, but I digress.

You are also not making a good argument? Had he not had energy bending, he would’ve had 2 options. Spare him, and risk him going off to do more evil — like Roku. Or end him, and end his reign of terror — like Kyoshi. Though he had those 2 options, as stated previously their advice was a bit more multifaceted. The decision was black and white, but the advice itself was not because the avatars discussed possibilities.

« He could gain power again had he stayed alive, so do you want to risk that »

This is an underlying message in the entire conflict, with the avatar’s merely echoing it.

[u/LaxPad → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

I get the sense that you are saying the same thing as I am by saying their advice was multifaceted and not necessarily to kill.

I said, it was crude understanding that his predecessors were asking him to kill and you are admitting it.

So, I don't know what the fuss is?

[u/thrownawaz092 → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

No they didn't. They told him to be just, to act, to be decisive, to put the world before himself, but none of them told Aang to kill. That was him getting in his own head.

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/thrownawaz092]

Read the entire thread and give someone the chance to further elaborate next time because I already said that here.

Edit: Sorry, it was here, not there.

[u/thrownawaz092 → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

Counteroffer: don't make objectively untrue statements

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/thrownawaz092]

This isn’t a counter offer if I literally admitted to being wrong in the very next comment.

Stop trying to be a smart ass.

[u/thrownawaz092 → u/The-Mythical-Phoenix]

I didn't say 'admit to being wrong' I said 'don't be so wrong in the first place'.

You're not my teacher, I don't owe you a completed reading assignment. Get your facts straight from the start or hell, you can slap an edit on your first comment.

[u/The-Mythical-Phoenix → u/thrownawaz092]

You say this as if people don’t make mistakes all the time. Nobody is perfect, so can you stop being an ass? No? Mkay.

Have the day you deserve.

[u/TilomeTheGreatest]

And take as many wives as they can to continue the bloodline.

[u/Better_Ad_512]

This is why both are the most boring superpowered characters of their respective franchises.

Edit: i forgot about Katara. She's even worse than Aang on that aspect.

[u/Drea_Is_Weird → u/Better_Ad_512]

Is sitcking to morals boring now?

[u/Better_Ad_512 → u/Drea_Is_Weird]

If by moral you mran not killing those who try to kill you, yes. Absolutely boring.

[u/AUnknownVariable → u/Better_Ad_512]

😭 People when a character has a belief:

[u/JuanRiveara → u/Better_Ad_512]

Nah, it’s what makes them some of the best of their franchises