r/AvatarSevenHavens • u/Cass0wary_399 • 13d ago
Discussion Nobody talks about how humans could the responsible for the cataclysm.
Many people have speculated that the cataclysm could be Sozin’s comet or one trillion Spirit Cthulhu’s coming out of the spirit portals to ravage the earth and devour everyone’s souls or something ridiculous like Korra pulling The Rumbling.
But nobody addresses the possibility that it could be the fault of a human organization, be it a greedy company exploiting the spirit portals or an extremist faction trying to destroy all spirits.
A corporation could be trying to push beyond spirit vine technology by building a power plant at all 3 spirit portals sucking spirit energy directly from the spirit world. This increases tension between humans and spirits which results in an increase in spirit attacks.
These attacks causing permanent incurable mutations would create a class of outcast mutants rejected by society for their deformities. A charismatic individual among them could rise up and become an Amon-like leader hell bent in ridding the world of spirits.
The organization(which I will be referring as the “QiXing movement”) could at first pose as a civil rights group fighting for the rights of the mutated. Hower, as they grow more popular they begin to shift towards anti-spirit and human supremacist sentiment, spreading to the non-mutated population as well. They would begin plotting the destruction of all spirits.
The political power the QiXing gains by possibilities of Republic presidents and Water Tribe chieftains that agrees with their ideals. Excuses could be made, like the increasing energy needs of a further technologically evolving world but the real kicker here is that this aligns with company profits.
There would be opponents to this however, the most notable of which would be Avatar Korra for many decades, after finding out the implications of all this from Asami and Jinora explaining how exploiting the spirit world for energy damages the spirit world. This would begin constant propaganda smearing of Korra being a Luddite and begin to massively discredit the concept of the Avatar as antiquated for the modern world.
Because of the spread of democracy across the world, Korra could not just deal with the politicians and world leaders allowing this all to happen the Kyoshi way because threatening or assassinating popular and legitimately elected leaders would be controversial. Nobody believes a word she says, and violence isn’t an option. There would be continued de-regulation of environmental protection laws globally, allowing corporations controlling the spirit power plants to expand those facilities to drain even more energy from the spirit world.
The power plant sucking up excess energy from the spirit portals causes them to destabilize over time which leaves them one sabotage away from causing the cataclysm. The leader of QiXing would devise a plan to use this to their advantage to fulfill their goal of destroying all spirits, and launch a sabotage with insiders increasing the energy harvesting ten fold.
Korra would catch wind of this, and confront the leader of the Qi over this publically. However it would be too late, as even if Korra dishes out Kyoshi style Justice onto them, the three spirit portals collapses into themselves and expels spirit energy all over the planet, causing violent energy storms that ravages most of the planet.
Because the average person in the world do not believe in Korra or other spiritualists’ warnings about exploiting the spirit world and combined with propaganda to defame her for years, Korra gets all the blame for this.
TLDR: The cataclysm could be entirely caused by human greed and political BS.
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u/Platinum_Duke_6 13d ago
I published a theory in the sub about how humans might have created the Avatar world equivalent of the atom bomb using energy vines as an energy source, and there was a cold war between the Fire Nation, the Earth Kingdom and the United Republic that turned hot. Those bombs were used, and Korra created the Seven Havens as a last resource to save humanity. The reason why she is known as humanity's destroyer is due to propaganda created by the leaders of the Seven Havens.
I seriously think the cataclysm will be human-made because humanity causing his own destruction due to greed and arrogance is a hot topic today. It's what it's currently happening.
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u/Greymon09 8d ago
Yeah I'm in much the same camp I think the avatar world almost certainly went through their equivalent of the cold war especially seeing as TLA and TLoK covered what was essentially their versions of WW1 and 2 respectively ASH has basically skipped the upfront retelling of yet another war to show us them dealing with the aftermath of a cold war that spiralled out of control instead of ending in a tense ceasefire like what more or less happened irl.
Be that with Humans and spirits coming increasingly into conflict which would lend credence to the avatar being seen as humanity's destroyer seeing as it would have been a direct result of Korra not closing the spirit world off again at TLoK or as you said they developed their equivalent to the atomic bomb which IMO is basically what the spirit vine cannon and it doesn't take much thought to go from beam weapon to energy bomb.
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u/waddee 13d ago edited 13d ago
Literally everyone talks about this possibility. I would argue it’s the most likely possibility. It’s easily the most common theory I’ve seen.
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u/Cass0wary_399 13d ago
The “Korra ended the world” being taken at face value is much more common.
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u/Consistent-Syrup9851 11d ago
Yeah not sure if it’s just the algorithm but it def feels like “Korra was responsible for the cataclysm” (Korraclysm?) is the most common opinion
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u/Wildlifekid2724 13d ago
I personally think its the case of humans exploiting the spirit world as you said, the spirits being hostile in response, and Korra being hated and blamed because she didn't do enough/anything to keep this from happening and didn't put any thought or listen to anyone else about keeping the spirit portals open.
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u/Joel_feila 13d ago
The most common theory i see is the spirits attacked because humans were uses Spirit vine bombs. So at least people are included humans as the aggressors.
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u/Top-Ad-4512 12d ago
Humans are responsible for a lot of wrong in that franchise, it would not be a surprise tbh and would give Pavi a human enemy.
This works far better than having nothing, as Avatar is a story resolved through battle, even with Aang and Korra around. So with Pavi, it will be the same and I endorse this.
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u/TaikoRaio19 11d ago
I just don't think it's gonna be necessarily bombs
It might be a more nuanced expy for nuclear weapons, like the Arm Cannon from Kuvira's Robot
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 10d ago
That would be too much of a clishee.
Getting kinda tired of stories that make humanity look foolish or evil.
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u/Cass0wary_399 10d ago
Those stories are just frankly true.
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u/Critical-Ad-8507 10d ago
Those stories literally are fiction.
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u/Cass0wary_399 10d ago
Yes, but those types of stories are meant to be cautionary tales based on the foolishness of humanity.
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u/KnightGambit 13d ago
What about Energy-vine Bombs 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️