Do you think Seven Havens will be dark?

[u/Fuuriooo_]

[u/ToothyBirbs]

I can see it being more of a fantastical adventure type show but with occasionally darker elements. It is post-apocalyptic after all.

What's interesting is that Pavi is younger than the Gaang but Jae is around the age of the Krew, so Seven Havens basically has two audience surrogates for two different demographics.

[u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 → u/ToothyBirbs]

This. And given Pavi will be the youngest on screen Avatar, I wonder what the character dynamics and scenes would be like for spirits and angry benders coming to attack a mere child.

Aang was close to his teens and Korras whole journey was her straight up being a teenager - young adult.

[u/Apycia → u/AnimeTechnoBlade100]

There's a fan theory that Seven Havens is planned to include a timeskip sometime during it's run, between seasons.

Pavi may not stay that young.

[u/throwaway_16112 → u/AnimeTechnoBlade100]

she has a twin so technically tied as youngest

[u/nixahmose → u/ToothyBirbs]

I imagine their dynamic is going to be that Pavi(having no reference for the old world or the horrors of the cataclysm) is going to view the new world with childish wonder and excitement while Jae(who was likely Pavi’s age when the cataclysm happened) views the new world as dangerous and evil. There’s going to be several times throughout the story where Pavi will be forced to see and experience the grim realities of the apocalypse with Jae having to help her process it, but just as much if not more there will be times where Pavi shows Jae the beauty and wonder of the new world and how humans and spirits can coexist together.

Ultimately the show will build up to the conclusion that it’s Pavi childhood wonder and innocence that is able to restore hope in the world and help humanity begin to rebuild outside of the seven havens while working alongside spirits in harmony.

[u/ElectronicSea3346 → u/nixahmose]

Also I don’t know if this will be incorporated but Korra and her team left records and a letter to the future avatar from Avatar chronicles. I made a post about it a month ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/AvatarSevenHavens/s/adh45NyUge

[u/JD_OOM]

I mean, they say it takes inspiration from 90s anime so technically it should be both.

[u/Distinct_Cup_1598]

It Should be considering the post-apocalyptic Setting and the fact that the Core audience has gotten older again. But i think it will be lighter toned like the Orginal Series and less than Korra, which aims to get more children to watch it

[u/Martinus_XIV]

I hope it will be. I think children's media should have its dark moments. It's important for children to be exposed to darkness in a safe and controlled way.

[u/Live_Pin5112]

I hope they don't make the lost of a limb in itself too tragic, cuz media sometimes goes so far with disability that becomes tragedy porn 

[u/KeyScratch2235]

Seeing Gyatso's skeleton freaked me out so much as a child, I couldn't even watch that episode for years.

[u/Ok-Bus235]

Is it going to be related to Nickelodeon? Cuz if it is, it probably won’t get much darker than Korra. Even if it’s streaming. They want to keep introducing new generations into the story, so they have to make it at least slightly digestible for ages 7-12

[u/fishy512 → u/Ok-Bus235]

Nah, it’ll be under Avatar Studios but release on Paramount Plus.

I have to imagine the writers will have a lot more creative freedom this time around now that they are fully supported by creative execs and studio execs who actually care about the show.

Avatar is one of Paramount’s most valuable properties. And considering their financial situation and the Skydance merger, there’s a lot riding on it to be incredibly successful AND critically great.

[u/AtoMaki]

Define "dark". They will continue with the usual stuff, I expect at least one brutal-but-fast-cut death like P'li and some kind of long-winded torture scene like Korra's and showing a spooky skeleton is a must in a post-apocalyptic setting, but I don't think they will push it too much. They will use these scenes to give weight (shock value) to certain episodes but not make them into some sort of "business as usual".

[u/b_reachard]

All I want is a scene where the Pavi earthbends herself a replacement prosthetic in the middle of battle and then just wrecks house with it

[u/Sonicrules9001]

ATLA had prisoners of war, the consequences of genocide, child abuse, childhood trauma and many many other dark topics that were weaved perfectly into narrative and while Korra due to its different setting and very different character didn't tackle these elements, we did see them tackle survivor's guilt, race inequality, colonialism, PTSD and other topics. I'd assume based on the other two shows as well as the books which also go deep into many dark topics as well that Seven Havens will be a dark show as well. Not over the top dark and edgy like say Invincible but still plenty dark like what came before.

[u/Euphoric-Taro-6231]

Crack theory. They were conjoined twins. They were separated surgically at birth, and the consequence was the lost limb. I've heard of IRL cases like that.

[u/throwaway_16112 → u/Euphoric-Taro-6231]

she has her leg in flashbacks

[u/Euphoric-Taro-6231 → u/throwaway_16112]

Wow, how much has been leaked?

[u/throwaway_16112 → u/Euphoric-Taro-6231]

early preview not a leak

[u/TheFauxness]

My guess is that Nisha entered the avatar state very young, lost control and ended up severing Pavi's leg by accident. Perhaps Nisha acessing the AS first was what made the White Lotus pick her as THE avatar.

[u/AnimeTechnoBlade100 → u/TheFauxness]

If they’re both gonna be twin avatars (according to leaks) then wouldn’t Nisha be a dark avatar? Perhaps entering the Dark AS very early as a way for Vaatu to try assaulting Raava (Pavi) and it results in Nisha harming her sister?

[u/TheFauxness → u/AnimeTechnoBlade100]

Could be. But I still hope for better development of order/chaos not being the same as good/bad. The first AS is always imprevisible anyway.

[u/Numerous-Hotel-796]

I hope so

[u/MainLake9887]

Now THAT would be cool...yea that doesnt sound right in any context

[u/Pure_Requirement663]

I hope so

[u/The_Real_Libra]

I think because it's releasing on Paramount+ rather than on Nickelodeon, they'll have more flexibility in how kid-friendly it is.

[u/Cark_Muban]

At the very least it will be as dark as ATLA

[u/lnombredelarosa]

I mean, I was 10 when I saw Naruto's famously dark Land of Waves arc, which included offscreen child murder, a child murdering other children and a man gets stabbed by dozen swords. Admitedly I wouldn't like my niece 7 year old niece watching any of those until at least that age but I think a censored leg accident and offscreen amputation are watchable.