Did rangi stay with kyoshi?

[u/Crazycutedragon12]

Hey all. It’s a simple question but has it been confirmed Rangi and kyoshi stayed together after the books? I was talking about their relationship and it’s my favorite couple. She asked if it’s confirmed they stayed together for the rest of rangis life. She said she’s seen couples that ended together but In sequels or spin off they weren’t together anymore. I’m just being nosy fr

[u/nixahmose]

The only thing we know about their relationship post the books is:

1) Kyoshi and Rangi were still together during the ttrpg which takes place after the books.

2) I believe in a Korra comic its briefly mentioned that Kyoshi was known to have dated men and women which implies that she did get together with multiple other partners, but this comic came out a two years before the first Kyoshi book and the part in question was just focusing on the fact that Kyoshi was bisexual. So you could just chalk that up to the comic wanting to establish Kyoshi as bisexual in a quick way without much thought put into it given that Rangi had likely not even have been conceptualized as a character yet.

3) Kyoshi is not mentioned to be involved with anyone near the end of her life and is heavily implied to have lost her ability to emotionally connect to humans due to how much of her humanity she had sacrificed to maintain her immortality.

Personally my head canon is that Kyoshi and Rangi stayed together for at least 18 more years after Shadow of Kyoshi and had even adopted and raised a daughter named Koko before eventually Rangi died from a fatal wound by either a dao fei or corrupt earth kingdom official. It was Rangi's death that pushed Kyoshi into using Lao Ge's immortality technique and start chipping away at her own spirit/humanity in order to ensure she would live long enough to cleanse the world of all its evil and corruption.

[u/MakelYT → u/nixahmose]

If I were a guessing person I'd prolly say that Kyoshi and Rangi were togheter at least up until the whole chin the conqueror thing. But even then it's spotty because Idt Rangi would let Kyoshi do nothing while Chin was active since Kyoshi knew who he was upon him arriving at the pennesula, hence why she embarressed him first, before seperating the Island. As far as Koko it's hard to place her timeline wise but I'd prolly feel that Koko is Kyoshi's daughter biologically which would fit with Kya's statements about her having Male and Female partners. But it could be that maybe Kyoshi put her efforts into solving the Daofei problem while Koko lead the Kyoshi Warriors. Just speculation on my part tho.

[u/nixahmose → u/MakelYT]

Personally if I had to determine what happened in Kyoshi's adult life, I would have it so that Chin situation happened during Kyoshi's late 30's to early 40's and while Kyoshi was still with Rangi and had spent over a decade raising Koko.

At the start of Chin's rebellion he propped himself up as a liberator of the Earth Kingdom's tyranny and initially won over the first few cities to his side with minimal violence which is why Kyoshi didn't immediately try taking him out. Kyoshi at that point was very disillusioned with the Earth Kingdom and decided to refrain from getting involved as long as both sides avoided civilian causalities so that she could use the pressure Chin's rebellion was putting on the current Earth King to try to get him to pass several decrees to help the common people in return for her helping him put down Chin's rebellion. The Earth King being outrageously prideful and greedy refused Kyoshi's initial demands even as more of the Earth Kingdom began falling under Chin's control.
Then after some time passed and Chin started to show more signs of becoming a ruthless tyrant due to how much power he was acquiring, Kyoshi and Rangi tried one more time to see if they could strong arm the Earth King into accepting Kyoshi's decrees. Only for one of the Earth King's corrupt political advisors(either out of genuine hatred for Kyoshi or out of secret allegiance to Chin) attempted to assassinate Kyoshi and ended up fatally injuring and/or killing Rangi instead. Kyoshi stricken by grief and tired of dealing with the Earth Kingdom's corruption brought Rangi's body back to Yakoya and would decided to stay there in mourning having lost any and all interest who won the war at that point.
However, as Chin began to become more tyrannical and would get dangerously close to attacking innocent civilians, Kyoshi would still leave Yokaya and hinder Chin's progress(like collapsing a critical valley pass to prevent his forces from ransacking a village) before returning back to Yokoya to mourn. Even though he could have potentially still won the war so long as he continued to play by Kyoshi's rules, her repeated interference enraged his ego which is why he eventually decided to attack Yokoya directly in an attempt to get rid of Kyoshi and free himself of her restrictions.

That idea would need more refinement of course if it were to become official canon, but something along those lines would be my ideal explanation for what happened to Rangi and why she refused to proactively deal with Chin. Its still not a good look for her to allow a war to go on, but her choosing to remain neutral(besides preventing both sides from causing civilian casualties) out of a combination of hatred for the Earth Kingdom and grief over Rangi's death would feel in character for her to me.

[u/MakelYT → u/nixahmose]

Tbh, idt we're ever going to get a Canon explanation outside of like a question awnserrd on something like a qna or braving the elements. Unless they maybe make another round of novels or have it briefly mentioned in passing in another medium like a comic. This is just speculation on my part tho.

[u/Plus_Ad_6703 → u/nixahmose]

Personally for me I think Rangi passed away of old age

[u/shaktimanOP → u/MakelYT]

From the information we get in the novels, I would say that Kyoshi’s decisions regarding Chin were justifiable.

The Earth Kingdom was a complete mess at the time. Power was massively decentralized outside of Ba Sing Se, and many city states had been plagued by Daofei (which Kyoshi played a massive role in stopping). Jianzhu was the only one holding things together, and he decided to poison most of the Earth Kingdom's senior leadership before he himself was killed by his former student. And the 46th Earth King was little better than Chin. Shortly after Chin's defeat, there was a peasant uprising against the Earth King which demanded a new government. The King commanded Kyoshi to bring them to heel, and she promptly refused and forced him to accept a compromise which limited the power of the monarchy and gave more rights to commoners. While she certainly made mistakes, she was able to stabilize the Earth Kingdom and its city states, and maintain peace between the Four Nations as a whole for an unprecedentedly long time.

Kyoshi wasn't good at politics, as she realized after the second book. So she may not have been comfortable with unilaterally deciding whether the Earth Kingdom should be ruled by one despot or another. It would have made more sense for her character to observe how Chin's war played out, then intervene to limit the power of the victor. Which is what she did.

[u/FlagmantlePARRAdise → u/MakelYT]

Good chance rangi is dead by then.

Kyoshi wouldve outlived rangi by like 2 lifetimes.

[u/Glass-Work-1696 → u/MakelYT]

Chin seems much later in her avatarhood, given how much she seemed to not care, so I’d reckon rangi was dead by then

[u/MakelYT → u/MakelYT]

Plus I kinda like rhe idea of Kyoshi being a mother. Given how she feels about her own mother Jesa.

[u/nixahmose → u/MakelYT]

Personally I prefer the idea that Kyoshi had no biological kids and instead adopted orphans. Given Kyoshi's upbringing as an orphan and how she despised the Earth Kingdom's obsession with blood ties, I think it would be most fitting for Kyoshi to adopt a homeless orphan and give them the same love and affection Kelsang gave to her and one that she always wished her mother had given her.

[u/Fernando_qq]

In the LOK comics, written by Mike (one of the creators) it is mentioned that Kyoshi had many lovers, both men and women.

Now, two things to keep in mind:

• It is not mentioned at what period of her life Kyoshi became like this.
• This is something Kya mentions, so we could say that Kya only heard stories and maybe they are not entirely true.

In conclusion, I have no idea, Kyoshi and Rangi's relationship could have lasted for many years, been just a teenage love (early adulthood) or many other things.

[u/nixahmose → u/Fernando_qq]

Also worth noting that I'm pretty sure those comics came out a couple of years before Avatar Rise of Kyoshi came out. Rangi likely wasn't even conceptualized back then and not much thought had been put into Kyoshi's immortality yet, so they could easily swipe this under them just wanting to establish Kyoshi was bi before having fleshed out her character more.

[u/Fernando_qq → u/nixahmose]

Yes, Turf Wars came out practically 2 years before the first Kyoshi novel, but Mike was a writer (or co-writer on the novel), So maybe he took into account the things he himself wrote, after all none of them contradict each other.

[u/nixahmose → u/Fernando_qq]

While they don't necessarily contradict each other, the term lovers if interpreted under the emotional sense as opposed to sexual kinda undervalues the emotional importance Rangi had to Kyoshi by framing her as just one of many lovers Kyoshi had over the years. And the way Lao Ge's immortality and late-stage Kyoshi are described makes it feel unlikely that Kyoshi was able to maintain her capacity to be able to love someone that far into her immortality years.

There's definitely a way you can combine these plot points together that maintains the importance of Kyoshi's romance with Rangi and doesn't contradict Kyoshi sacrificing parts of herself she deemed unnecessary in order to maintain her immortality, but it without further context doesn't fit cleanly to me and leaves it open to interpretations like Kyoshi breaking up with Rangi and having multiple different lovers even before becoming immortal. As someone who really enjoyed their romance in the Kyoshi books and considers it far better than any of the other romances done in ATLA and LoK, I'd like the importance and sanctity of their romance to be preserved by future lore additions rather than having another Sokka and Suki situation where they break up off screen and their relationship seemingly having no lasting impact on their lives. Regardless of how more realistic that might be, its just not satisfying from a romance writing perspective.

[u/livinonaprayer456 → u/Fernando_qq]

Kyoshi lived more than 200 years. It would make sense that she would have many great loves and not just one.

[u/danyboui]

So far they’ve stayed together at the end of the novels. If the relationship lasted longer we have no idea and even if it was for all of Rangi’s life that doesn’t mean it was a long life. You have to remember Kyoshi lived almost 3 times the standard lifetime for humans so if Rangi died around 40ish then Kyoshi still had close to 2 centuries of time to fall in and out of love with multiple people especially if Rangi’s death left her desperately wanting connections.

[u/FlagmantlePARRAdise]

Kyoshi likely outlived rangi.

[u/takethishowboutthis]

It’s not really confirmed if they ever broke up in the future, just that they were still together at the end of Shadow of Kyoshi. My personal theory is that Rangi was the love of Kyoshi’s life and that they stayed together until Rangi’s death. Either way, Rangi almost certainly died before Kyoshi since Kyoshi lived to be 230. After Rangi’s death, maybe Kyoshi tried to get into other relationships (keeping in line with what Kya said in Turf Wars), but she could never connect with anyone in the same way, and her grief led to her detaching herself from her emotions and following Lao Ge’s ‘immortality’ path.

[u/Mal454]

Given Kyoshi's long life I tend to believe she and Rangi were together for however long Rangi's life was, and that could be naturally anywhere from where we left them up to like 100+ years old, Kyoshi would go on to live for another century after that at least in which I doubt she wouldn't have had other lovers.

I think by the time she got really old though, close to the 200 years mark, her connection to humanity would have faded and she would have likely closed in on herself, if the air nun's account from Roku's book is anything to go by.

Anyway, my headcannon is that however many lovers Kyoshi might have had, Rangi was her true other half.

[u/WanHohenheim]

We don't know. They were together at the end of the second book and two years later in the post book in tabletop rpg.

I once read on avatar wikia that F.C.Yee said that he personally beelive that they lasted forever. But expect the new writter to be disagree with this. So don't be suprised if he pulls some bs "they broke up" in his next Awakening of Roku novel just for the sake of drama or "realism" that no one asked from him. The fact that Rangi wasn't even mentioned in Reckoning of Roku (while Yun did mentioned) is already scary.

I personaly beelive that they lasted forever. L.e until Rangi died.