r/Avatarthelastairbende 11h ago

I have an earth bender theory that’s kinda scary to think about

So we all know that earth benders can metal bend… and if you all remember that some foods have iron in them. With that being said, I theorize that if they trained and focused enough… they could potentially take control or eliminate the person with the iron in their blood, like what magneto did in X2 (essentially their own form of blood bending)

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u/nixahmose 11h ago

Metal benders don’t literally bend metal, they bend the earth impurities inside most common forms of metal. That’s why in LoK people started to make advancement in weapons and machinery built out of purified platinum as a way to prevent metal benders from being able to bend them.

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u/SamFMorgan 7h ago

Sincerely, a lot of this doesn't make any sense.

They can't bend pure metals, but could somewhat "easily" bend the metal poison that the red lotus used on Korra (which is probably Mercury). Mercury isn't less of a metal than platinum is.

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u/CreeperAsh07 7h ago

It's possible it's not just mercury, but mercury mixed with bits of earth so they can bend it from a safe distance, like how Toph was able to bend water just because it had earth in it.

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u/That_One_Friend684 6h ago

Plus, rocks bent into your bloodstream is also bad

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u/GrimmReaperRL 5h ago

mercury mixed with bits of earth

Yeah that would do a little bit more damage than just mercury, which would already do more than it did

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u/rara8122 6h ago edited 6h ago

I understood it as all metals could be made pure, but in the legend of Korra universe platinum is easier made pure or commonly made pure, thus it’s usage.

Don’t know how scientifically accurate platinum’s ease of being made pure is though.

By this logic the mercury they used is significantly less pure than platinum. If the platinum wasn’t pure (if that’s possible I guess), they would probably be able to bend it. Conversely, if the mercury was pure, they wouldn’t be able to bend it.

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u/Skwafles 3h ago

It doesnt matter how easily platinum is to purify with our techniques. All they have to do is melt the platinum, then earth bend the slag out until the molten metal doesnt respond to bending anymore.

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u/Cheetahs_never_win 4h ago

One shouldn't apply Earth science to this show.

Rather, what's canon is ancient Chinese understanding of what elements were as though they were hard science, and we don't necessarily know those rules.

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u/Spare-Plum 2h ago

Agree. In avatar all matter is supposed to be made from the 4 elements.

Then what the hell is platinum? A magic out of universe element?

TBH this one just felt like breaking the magic system for the plot convenience. There were too many metal benders so they had to come up with a reason why the mech suits were a threat. It would have been better if they kept metal bending as an extremely expert and rare skill

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u/Zealousideal-Care513 26m ago

Does that mean that metal was a magic out of universe element in atla before toph could bend it, if normal metal couldn’t be bent in atla then why can’t some metal be unbeatable in Lok

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u/eldeboblo 2h ago

love ur avatar

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u/ParagonRebel 10h ago

Metal Bending is just manipulating the Earth inside of it. Nothing smaller than pebbles or grains of sand is being manipulated and you probably wouldn’t be doing anything to anyone realistically if you honed your skills to such a level.

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u/One_Spicy_TreeBoi 3h ago

You think earth benders could bend glass? Cause sand?

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u/Elonth 1h ago

That is a hard one... because glass isn't just sand... That said... most of the added ingredients to make the various forms of glass are still some form of earth or stone. (lime) being the most common type of glass. Basically... what chemicals are bendable as "earth" is largely unknown from the obvious. Sandbenders can bend Silica. I would say yeah.... an earthbender probable could bend and shatter windows. Its super heated silica it didn't stop being 70%+ silica in most glass. Its just superheated to form crystaline structures. We also do 100% know crystals are bendable.

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u/Marvelgod30 9h ago

Even so have you ever heard the saying everyone eats 5 pounds or dirt in their lives?

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u/Rabbulion 9h ago

We also shit out most of that.

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u/Ok_Somewhere1236 9h ago

humans are also like 70% water, they also have a lot of oxygen in the blood cells,

in short those elements are so small and so "fused" with other things, that the level of skill necessary to bend it is above basically everyone

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u/duckpaints 7h ago

don't forget heat

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u/Ok_Somewhere1236 6h ago

heat is just a variation of the main fire bend, Fire bend is in relaity energy bend

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u/Historical-Wash1955 5h ago

Uh, no. I've never heard that.

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u/Glass-Work-1696 11h ago

No, the concentration of iron in the blood is negligible on such a scale

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u/GeniusLike4207 9h ago

Also the Iron is bound in Hemoglobin. It would be far more "logical" to have bone bending since Limestone and bones both contain calcium.

But it's a spiritual and not a logical distinction. What do air bender s bend? Oxygen, nitrogen? All gasses? Waterbenders? Just H2O or would hydrogen peroxide also work since it's close enough? Oil? can they also bend butter ??

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u/zhion_reid 8h ago

That bit about water bending is confusing as they seem to be able to bend soup

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u/GeniusLike4207 7h ago

Soup is mostly water. I mean there doesn't seem to be a distinction made between fresh and saltwater. It weird though, at what point does waterbending become impossible? Like can a waterbenders bend whiskey? which is 40% ABV? if yes, why can't they bend "blood" without a full moon. Humans contain more water by volume than whiskey...

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u/CreeperAsh07 6h ago

It seems like the degree of what you can bend depends on your skill level. Substances that are mostly water and in liquid form seem to be pretty easy to bend, like soup, beverages, and the earth slurry from the drill. We have only seen one person capable of bending plants, but he could do it at any time, at any place. Hama invented bloodbending through pure force of will and determination, but she could only do it on a full moon, when a water bender is the strongest. However, Amon and Tarlok had a naturally skillful father who drilled bloodbending in their brains their whole lives through excruciating and brutal training, and they could bloodbend at will.

At this rate, water benders could develop extremely powerful subdisciplines--possible even stronger than Amon and Tarlok's bloodbending--if creative and naturally talented benders work hard enough and adapt the techniques of the ones before them.

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u/ArmadilloSilent6761 6h ago

Soup bending is a combination of earth bending and water bending. The ingredients of soup are water and plants, maybe meat too, but mostly vegetables.

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u/Excellent_Pay_8782 10h ago

Imo airbenders are superior, they can take all the air out of your lungs and brain. Flatline you in seconds lol

Or the opposite give you too much and burst your lungs

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u/opulentbum 8h ago

Would be tough to do if you’re being blood bended. I always debate myself over which is stronger. Kinda seems like just whoever decides to act first

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u/annatar256 7h ago

That's usually how it works in these kinds of magic systems. If an airbender were being bloodbent they'd be incapable of bending until the bloodbender was disabled. But if an bloodbender was having the air bent out of their lungs like Zaheee did to the queen, then they'd be incapacitated too. It just depends on who can get a grip on the other faster

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u/Handsoff_1 6h ago

But one thing to mention, for an airbender to remove air from someone's lung, they need the person to stay still. The process is slow as you can see in the movie while bloodbending is almost instant and you are incapacitated too. You cant move. While you can still do so while your air is being removed. So if you think about it, a bloodbender would still have the advantage.

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u/JonDoeJoe 1h ago

Gyatso airbent all of the air from the temple, killing every fire nation soldier

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u/RBVegabond 7h ago

They don’t stop breathing, a good air bender would breathe at the blood bender.

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u/Handsoff_1 6h ago

But a bloodbender control every muscles every veins. To breath you need muscles so they can stop u from breathing if they want.

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u/CreeperAsh07 6h ago

I disagree with anyone who says air is the strongest because if it were, Zaheer would have won. He was able to kill the Earth Queen that way, but it took time and concentration, and the Queen is not a bender or a competent fighter. Zaheer only used this technique one other time, and it was when Korra was incapacitated and couldn't fight back. At that point, any element could have finished the job even quicker. If it were really as strong as people assert, Zaheer could have used it since the beginning against anyone he fought.

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u/FunnySeaworthiness24 5h ago

A master airbender vs a master of any other element, If we neglect psychic bloodbending, is coming out victorious in almost every 1 v 1.

Airbenders are not present in the show for the most part, ad when they are the story 'nerfs' them for this very reason.

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u/CreeperAsh07 4h ago

Why do you think Airbenders are the strongest? Genuine question. Airbending techniques are mostly about evasion and avoiding confrontation, which is why the Air Nomads were mostly pacifists. There are not many airbending moves that do real damage besides just "air punch," while the other elements can trap, hit, impale, burn, and do a myriad of other things that airbending cannot match in power.

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u/Handsoff_1 6h ago

Not this again. We have had this conversation before. Earthbenders dont bend the metal itself but the trace of dirt in it. Iron in blood is completely pure of any earth trace. Bending isnt science but more philosophical.

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u/Ok_Somewhere1236 9h ago

Small correction: I don’t think “redirection” should be considered a fire sub-bending on its own, but rather a specialized lightning technique. The third true fire sub-bending seems to be “spiritual purification,” as shown when the elder firebender used her abilities to cleanse Korra of dark spirit corruption after she was attacked by the spirits in season 2.

You have a little of everything inside everything, but also as was explained, MetalBenders dont really bend metal, they bend the mineral impurity inside the metal, if the metal is to pure, like 100% pure metal, they can't bend it.

that is why the Red Lotus use 100% platinum chains on Korra in season 3, also why Asami's father has a room made of 100% pure metal to trap the metal benders

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u/Apycia 8h ago

100% agree. that 'chakra bending' the fire sages did was amazing. much more in line with the 'fire of many colors' revelation that Aang and Zuko learned.

lightning redirection is not it's own subskill.

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u/Xenozip3371Alpha 7h ago

Just to remind you, the night before the guard went into work, Mystique injected a ton of liquid metal into him.

Otherwise even Magneto himself wouldn't have been able to do anything with the standard amount of iron in a person's blood.

And I think we can all agree Magneto is FAR above metalbenders.

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u/No-Independence9093 3h ago

One; metal bending doesn't actually bend the metal. Instead a metal bender is bending the impurities, the chunks of regular earth still inside.

Two; the iron content of the human body is actually very low, roughly enough to make a nail, and it is spread through a circulatory system that can wrap around the plants over 100 times. There is a reason why magneto needed mystic to pump the guard up with liquid metal first.

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u/This-Mind-9309 3h ago

You remember how in the OG series toph hit the metal to control/bend it to her will… with that in mind, if one were to apply that to a body think what could be done

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u/PuzzledConcept9371 2h ago

The metal wasn’t pure, in TLOK they use platinum to stop metal benders because it’s too pure to bend

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u/HappyAccidents17 8h ago

I mean airbenders can fly soo

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u/ArmadilloSilent6761 6h ago

If you think about these abilities (the different bending styles) they are all just a form of kinetic/psychic/psionic ability theorized centuries ago. These shows showing the “imaginary” possibilities that are capable by a well honed human mind may not actually be that far fetched if the appropriate resonance could be matched with whatever you’re wanting to bend. Keep a resonance to match the flame near a 10hz sound and you could keep a flame stable. Possibly lower, closer to about 3hz to have it feeding off the combustible elements in our air. Earth’s resonance frequency is 7.83hz, see what you can do with that. Bees don’t have lungs, yet they fly by means of vibration and manipulation of their wing to move. Let’s make these happen. Water is tricky. Same with wind. These two are a lot higher but reactive to most frequencies.

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u/Unexpected_Sage 6h ago

Calcium is in a lot of rocks, calcium is also on bones

Bone Bending

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u/Fehellogoodsir 4h ago

Magneto is on another level, leagues above earthbenders

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u/TricolorStar 3h ago

Not super relevant but Airbenders can bend sound as well (Aang does it a few times in the original show). Firebenders can also heal with the proper training (as seen in Legend of Korra). In the comics, Earthbenders are seen bending ink, glass, and paint, with a main character actually having his hand permanently blackened from bending ink.

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u/Tau51994 2h ago

The only thing that's kinda scary is how much of an idiot you are. I recommend you watch the series again.

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u/L3tsseewhathappens 1h ago

"You have too much iron in your blood...."

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u/Delta_The_Mystic 1h ago

Risotto would like a word

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u/Kitchen_Nectarine_44 1h ago

In X2, Mystique injected liquid metal into someone's asshole. This isn't the iron or metals from hemoglobin or other enzymes

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u/NorthGodFan 5h ago

Metal benders cannot bend metal