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u/Consistent_Skin_8077 1d ago
Sadly, we may never truly know, because everything we believe was written by human hands. Over time, truth becomes tangled with lies, and perhaps only at the end of our lives will the real truth finally be revealed.
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u/Yellowcup508 user knows someone with bpd 1d ago edited 1d ago
this is kind of interesting to me because the other day while i was at the laundrymat i had some thoughts within myself about god freedom and love and sort of the question of Is freedom Higher than love?
i wrote it in a journal someplace let me go find it before i hit the post button
here it is i found it
to me mirrors reflect into themselves so then he becomes as a mirror reflecting into itself endlessly
Also me to me a thought which came to me if god gave mankind free will if we were given free will but we were not given love does that imply that freedom is higher than love? or are they somehow the same thing? like i dont think i really fully have the awnser but it's a question and i'm sort of like i don't know just kind of staring off into space sort of pondering this idea
i wills hare this also.. i knew a woman once over a decade ago.. i still remeber sitting there listening to her speak in my apartment
it was kinda that i dont remeber if she said it was in dreams or some meorys she had it within herself its a long time ago but what i do remebr what she said was kinda that she remeeber from some place before she was here when she was there with god and before this life that god said what kind of a life do u wonna have kinda thing and that she choose saying i want the life which me lead me back to you back to god and.. her life.. was not easy it was a painful one suffering but i dunno she in what she told me just asked for the life that would bring her back to god not a easy life but the one that would lead her back
i dunno its just 1 thing my own random thought i had last week at the laundrymat and a sotry or moment convo that i dont fully remeber all details of of someone elses thoughts of a person who i wont forget and who i used to know them
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u/Depressed_PoopSponge 1d ago
Pain is the greatest catalyst for growth. I watched my father die, have BPD and Bipolar, and a host of other problems. I hate it, but I am grateful for it. It has taught me skills and shown me things about myself I would never know otherwise. Every parent has their kid go through difficult things growing up. It doesn't mean they hate you. God gave mankind free agency. It is a huge responsibility, as our actions can have a profound impact on others, for good or bad. It was given to us to learn and grow and struggle and become stronger and more knowledgeable than before. I didn't come by this overnight. I prayed. I didn't use words or was formal in any way. I was going through some shit, and was sitting alone in my bedroom. I took all of the pain, fear, anxiety, self loathing, and anger, and shot it out into the universe with no direction. I had two questions: "why?" and "What the fuck am I supposed to do with this?". The rest is history. It didn't all get answered overnight, and I still struggle with alot today, but I remember distinctly having a feeling of peace blossom in my chest. It wasn't "everything is going to be okay" or anything like that. It was like a squeeze on the shoulder by a loving parent. It was more of a "i see you, you aren't alone" kind of thing.
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u/Depressed_PoopSponge 1d ago
I know this might not help, and if someone told me this when I was in your spot, I would have told that Bible freak to go fuck himself. But this is just my thoughts and experience. FYI I don't go to church or pray often or read the Bible. Im just mindful of God a couple times a week for a few minutes.
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u/Driven432 1d ago
I think everyone goes through these thoughts, life is hard. “In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world”. So yeah, our faith may be challenged at times, and we dont know his ways. The best we can do is keep trying, fall forward and get back up. Knowing one day, if we run the race and keep trying until the end, “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” Definitely not easy in real life, we will stumble daily, and faith is beginning where understanding ends. But holding on to these truths helps when the emptiness, loneliness, anxiety, anger and depression is warring against our minds, this can be the one sparkle of light that guides you from the dark. I wish I could do much better at these things, i fail daily. But if made it through many battles, I will make it through the next ones also.
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u/bakibakiniorenaniwo_ 17h ago
I want to give you my sincere opinion, not to convert you or disrespect you, I respect everyone's beliefs even if I don't share them. having said this, I believe that religion (not just Christian also, idk Buddhism or any religion) is an invention created by man to explain the inexplicable. We don't have a reason why we exist, so we believe in something "bigger" and mysterious. I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's a great illusion that we believe in. I simply believe that we find ourselves here on earth by chance, due to a sequence of scientific events that led to our formation. We humans think we are so important just because we have the ability to think, but we are not the center of everything, we are small and insignificant. We are like all animals: we are born, we live and suffer/we are happy because we have AWARENESS, but then we die. We are only a small moment in this short life. For me, God does not exist, Jesus existed as a MAN, but nothing more.
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u/Contingency_Dad user has bpd 13h ago
It’s a tough concept to struggle with. I became an atheist about a decade ago but was a catholic before that. Went to catholic school and all that. Ultimately my understanding led me away from that belief. However, if you don’t want to go that route then it’s important to remember: questioning god is how you grow in faith. You can’t stay stagnant and grow in that belief. And, atheist or not, it’s easy to be confused or frustrated at the current moment, but eventually you can look back on the road that led you to the person you are in the future. Good luck, it’s a hard fight.
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u/nisenee 5h ago
I did not chose to believe in god. To be honest I wamtes and tried to be atheist. Faith is not a choice. If we fall logic and stop to think it is much more probabale for him to no exist.
I mean our world is tottally physical, the documents on any " sacred book" has a lot of historical imprecisions .
Faith is a gift/cursed, or you have or you dont have it.
I did not write this post for anyone to convince me of my Faith. I just wanted to vent...
I dont want anybody trying to convert me for atheism and I dont want to convert any of you to my Faith.
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u/Contingency_Dad user has bpd 2h ago
Oh I’m not trying to convert you to anything, just saying it’s good and fine to question it all. You can absolutely keep the faith. Don’t want to get too deep into a conversation about faith but you can totally lose it. I was forced into the church and believed + had faith in all of it. But the I started to question and found ultimately that it didn’t make enough sense for me. But I don’t disparage anyone that came to a conclusion that having faith in god is that answer for them. No hate, no conversion, all love.
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u/Nearby-fungi 19h ago
If the Christian god exists. Hopefully, I can spit in it's face and smile before I gladly skip to hell.😇
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u/Insearchofmyselfkws 1d ago
Fear God, everything else is meaningless.
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u/Depressed_PoopSponge 1d ago
I don't think God wants us to fear him. Just keep him in our hearts. Whether that is worship, or prayer, or scripture, or just treating others with kindness and compassion.
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u/Insearchofmyselfkws 1d ago
Same-same depending on how you look at it. Most people cannot keep his commandments outside of fear. I was quoting the summary of a book written by one of the wisest men to walk the earth.
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