Suppose he try ICaew or ACCA. This professional paper is better but harder than a degree or foundation. Life is unjust but we still need move on and find alternative
yeah agree with you. well all races kena like this. we know this wee guy is very smart ofc, but to use political party as the way to voice out is not that smart, he just become their tool sadly :/ . and usm is a good uni tho, very hard to get enrolled, sigh ungrateful boi haha
Means that whoever got the place has a higher score than his. When the placement is limited and the competitiveness is so high, the system will look at his other subjects results. From STPM, MUET, Koko, then to SPM
Quota kat mana? Lawaklah engkau. Bumiputera yang lagi bagus dan lebih bagus pun tak dapat. Tak bising pun. Dan you ingat Orang Asli, orang asal Sabahan and orang asal Sarawakian tu tak termasuk Bumiputera?
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He pulled a rare pokemon but instead of being happy he bitch about not getting another rare pokemon. The greed and shamelesness especially at this age boggles my mind.
That true, there is a place for everyone in life, but not in school. Everyone has his own path to tread, that one is not yours. That's all. I've seen worse. I saw this one guy taken SPM 3 years in a row only to get worse and worse result each year. That a soul crushing reality right there
Ramai dah ade keputusan ni. Patutlah bersaing gile nk masuk kursus perakaunan. Maths pun xde. Satu kertas perakaunan dpt B-. Nk bersaing mcm mane pulak?
The reason he didn't get it is probably because he only apply the course during the second phase of UPU due to some confusion caused by UM, so by the time he reapply, all the places were filled.
The requirements listed is just minimum entry requirement.
Yeah he can apply and can enter the provisional candidate pool to be selected further.
But if someone else has the Math as their subject, and the UPU/Uni re-rank them among the provisional pool that someone with Math will get higher points even though they are not 4 flat, then they will be chosen instead of him.
Yeah minimum entry =/= automatic entry. If we follow that logic, all straight As SPM leavers would have scholarships by now. But of course, this is not the case. Minimum entry only guarantees that you are eligible to apply into the course, but ultimately the uni will always choose the best among the best. Thise with minimum requirements would be put in the last position.
Oh no, I’m not defending him or anything. I was just pointing out the course requirements to give a better picture, and he has the right to complain since he met those requirements.
BUT my main point is that he didn’t get the entry not entirely because of his results or the subjects he took, but because he only applied for the course during the second phase.
You're looking for 2 strikers. You set the requirement: Know how to play football, know the basic rules, can score goals.
Come 10 players. All follow the basic requirement. All 10 can score basic tap-in goals. But out of 10, only 7 can score from inside & outside the box. 2 from the 7, have exceptional speed & stamina.
Will you go with the basic one can score, or the ones that can score from every situation & have speed+stamina?
If not mistaken in STPM, since A- = 3.70, when combined with another 3 solid As, it will be more than 3.70 which is automatically solid A. So auto 4.00. Actually quite easy to score in STPM because of this. Depends on the wajaran (%) too. The % for the paper he got B- is very low so it’s not enough to drag down the rest.
Put it this way, if a person take ICT get A, but everyone else gets A in Maths. You think the fella with non-relevant subject gets chosen (other things being equal)? In life we all have to be realistic, not just try to paint a fake picture as though the person is really above all others. Berlambak others also 4.0, not just him, the Unis have to pick the candidates with the closest and most relevant subjects.
Bro he might excel in math at spm level but if there’s other candidates that got straight As 4 flat with math as a subject at STPM level. Who do you think is more deserving?
No its doesnt having stpm maths doesnt fit into accounting, if not mistaken maths at stpm level is called pure maths and another is Maths M. Both are for science students.
My friend who took acc stpm doenst need maths to enter acc course in UUM
Both UUM and UM doesnt need maths in stpm to take acc.
If they really take maths T might as well tak full science as we do calculus and such, not much use to acc
Sorry but how are you so sure it's because he didn't take math that he wasn't given the course?
If he had taken math and gotten the same results, people would say "he didn't take a fifth subject, others did, who do you think is more deserving?" There's no winning for him.
It was a valid crash out for him. 4.00 with any subjects combination is not easy.
UPU doesn't work like that. UPU doesn't "prioritize other students with math". CGPA gets converted into a merit score, that's it, subjects doesn't matter unless it is between science stream and art stream.
It doesn't matter if he took maths (M) or not at STPM as long as he achieves 4.0.
UPU works as
90% academics + 10% koko, totalling into 100%.
He already get 90% merit for academics and 9.9% for koko.
If you're gonna say "oh there are tons of others merit 100 candidates that are better",
Everyone of them came from either matriks or asasi. They use a different system that is easier to max out their koko and CGPA. Their merit scores are inflated, if you put them into STPM, they won't get more than 99% merit marks like the student in the news because 9.9 in koko means he participated on national level activities with multiple awards at that level. The system is alot more strict in STPM than matriks or asasi. I'm not saying there aren't people that are better than him, but he isn't competing on an equal footing like others, the system sets him up to fail. If everyone competes on an equal footing (same pre-u), he likely would've been one of the top students in the entirety of Malaysia.
Are you saying the Uni doesn't do further filtration for the course?
What you are saying is like you deserve to get a slot in any courses if you get 4.0 CGPA with 99.9% merits.
So, based on your logic, hypothetically, the guy in the news should get a slot in a medical course with 4.0 CGPA with 99.9 merits by taking Economy + Perakaunan + ICT in STPM?
Yup. You got rejected, there’s nothing more to the story. UM making exceptions for one outcry would undermine their credibility and the fairness of the process. Just move on
Exactly. What the uni wants to do, that is good for them, may not be best for society as a whole. This now has open a can of worms that the Uni will have to answer
There’s a reason why even our justice system has an appeal process to deal with grievances of a decision. It’s part and parcel of building strong institutions.
Just have an appeal framework in place for people who slip through the cracks la. And be transparent about people who appeal but still doesn’t qualify.
That’ll actually shut a lot of people up, especially those who aren’t qualified. Not this opaque process.
And why shouldn’t public universities who are public funded and allocating our subsidies for these UPU slots be opened up to scrutiny and be accountable for their decisions? Society will benefit too like what the earlier poster said. So it inconveniences the uni, but why should we convenience them at the expense of society?
The justice system analogy feels like a bit of a stretch. Courts deal with wrongful convictions where a mistake can destroy someone’s life, that’s not comparable to not getting your first-choice uni course, especially when you still received other offers. Being disappointed is fair, but it’s also important to recognise that you did get a placement.
And for what it’s worth, UPU already has a rayuan (appeal) process in place. It’s not perfect, but it does exist, so it’s not like students are left without any recourse.
People who don’t get scholarships see their lives change a lot too. That doesn’t mean it’s unfair or that the institution should make an exception for them.
It’s so unfair to those who got in, what about them? Does UM or UPU have to explain why they chose them over him too? Even Harvard or MIT don’t explain in detail why someone got rejected.
Ramai ni yang question because they sendiri racist. Racists crying racism, what's new in Malaysia?
Budak tu Math tak ambik walaupun nak buat Accounting. Dapat jugak USM but cry foul pulak bila dapat offer from his own selection of choices. Even though not first choice, still it's his own choice.
Own sister also graduated from UM, so how can complain racist when the sister got in? The sister mualaf is it? Racism tak apply to the sister, just to him? If so, where's the evidence?
Simple case of a bunch of stupid people playing up the racial card.
This is normal. There are only so many seats in UM. I still remember all my caligue who got 4.0 can't get a seat due to to many 4.0 applications there. Worse that back then there are only 4 local universities that offer Medicine courses. Most of us ended as Engineers or even teachers. We are not rich people and if even if we were, there were no local private universities back then. That's a good thing though I think. You can't have to many people focusing on just one profession
From what I saw, he was offered a management course right? Although it’s not as glamorous as an accounting course, it makes you very flexible to other courses and opens a lot of doors anyways.
Plus, isn’t there like an extreme competition among students to get into certain courses (I.e computer science or programming courses) or the fact that he might be beaten by a better scorer, straight A’s tend to attract better prospects from what I remember.
Bro…. Minimum requirement… no body gives a crap about minimum anymore. He can’t accept that there are candidates better than him. Now he wants to use political cable to get in. Will that be the minimum requirement in the future?
Except that the boy alrd got the highest possible in stpm.
Then when got in well see matrix students who got 3.5 also masuk same course where as stpm need to be 4.0
The kid got fcked over by UPU system. He should just applied JPA and enter UM via direct admission and use the countries money. Also get monthly allowance from JPA.
My source is my brother got jpa and matrix and found out 70 of matrix students are just 5A in spm, the 9 A plus 10A plus are rare and most alrd will get scholarship
He would have gone to local mp to get help as well. My brother was just lucky he could do his JPA cause he people who told him how to bend the system. Ie, ignore UPU and go straight for the JPA or get private scholarship. There si no shame in asking politician for help especially if you think you deserve it especially seeing his grades.
4.0 in stpm is alrd showing that he has atleast the top 10 percent of students as well as the effort as his kokurikullum is high compared to the average stpm taker. Mine was at 9.1 and I had to join kebangsaan level events twice and do a whole lot of bs to get it.
The only mistake he made was doing UPU wrongly which a lot of people do as online guides are vague and most teachers say just fill it to the brim. The fact that you need to know how to bend the system to get what you want is depressing enough
You're saying as though he has the best of the best results with everything else included.
Here are other possibilities just for you to consider:
1) someone else took more relevant subjects
2) I read that he applied only after they amended the minimum requirements to 2/4 from 3/4, I'm sure there were others in line earlier
3) previous results like SPM were taken into consideration
Take la fifth subject if want to properly succeed. My batch most took the hardest subjects in A Levels to be qualified for Cambridge, beyond the minimum req. Now thats real high performer. Not this half ass attempt to call himself a high performer.
Minimum is not guarantees ma. Things got quota. U need consider that course itself has specific portion for ASASI, scholarship, SPM and oversea student
not just requirement that need to be fulfilled, also the total merits percentage, and he need to compete with other candidates too... besides if others have 10/10 koko marks so...
and the fact that he apply to UM, top university in Malaysia so obviously the competition is really really hard.
Then it means someone has a better result than him. He has B in math if Im not mistaken for his SPM. UM is extremely tough and only those who are the best of the best can enter it. Even I failed to enter it even though I have straight 10As for SPM, and countless koko achievements in national level.
‘JPT said Edward Wong, who achieved a perfect 4.0 CGPA and scored 99.9% for co-curricular activities, was ranked 1,129th among 2,291 eligible applicants for UM, while only 85 places for accountancy were available in his top choice university this year.’
Just because you feel like you’re destined for something, doesn’t mean you will get it. God works in mysterious ways, who knows, he becomes a drug addict if he join UM. I say, when something seems further from you the more you try to get at it, no point in chasing it. You’re on your own path in this world and there is no point in looking back. Kid really needs to learn to move forward, instead of breathing down UM’s neck like he’ll literally be snapped out of the universe if he didn’t get in. UM has their own ways of picking their students, and not getting into a uni you feel that you are destined to is not the end all for you.
Whats important is how you present yourself once you graduate. If you 4 flat but no manners, nobody will hire you, if you 4 flat but just keep silent in meetings, i don’t need you on my team. If you 4 flat but you demanding, you think CEO won’t think twice. Be humble, 4 flat is 4 flat, fine, he did well, but don’t stop your life just because you are harping on one thing.
Kalau dapat masuk sebab bruhaha macam ni, confirm kena palau. Orang lain result power pun tak dapat, diam je tak drama. Menangis dalam hati, terus pivot.
He’s not aiming for answers, he’s aiming for that UM accounting spot. Dude literally got rejected from all other accounting courses at other unis, but was accepted into USM (just not for the course he wants).
Why would UM care if no reporters to answer to? We can just ignore the poor kid, claim that we had better candidates. Do you not know how the world works? 😂 why give a damn about one kid, he got no voice also, not like he going to create drama for us …oh wait
If you want be auditor taking ACCA or ICAEW is a better route. Sunway offer scholarship also. No need waste time waiting result. Start early finish early. Life is unfair but they are always alternative.
How are some of these smart people are so stupid at the same time? He literally got an offer from USM. He's just bitching that he didn't get his first option. That's not how UPU application works. With this kind of mentality he should just start his foodpanda gig early.
Haiya... each local university has a quota. This one is also well-known. Non-Muslim scores what result; it won't change anything. Either you go private, or you get those course that nobody want or courses that are not within your interest.
Out of all universities, UM has the best racial ratio balance tbf. Literally has nothing to do with quota, especially since quota systems had already had already been abolished decades ago. Plus, theres a lot of Malay who scored like this and failed to enter UM. UM is just that competitive - up to the point that their FYP has a similar quality like a postgrad thesis.
Accounting in UM no need maths man. Do your research before saying no maths means lower merits. Just need maths in SPM not in STPM. If they need maths then almost 70% of accounting students who want to do accounts in university will be fucked coz only a small percentage of schools offer Maths(M) . Like me I did accounting in Form 6 but I did not get offered Maths.
Ik that some of us who apply may have not taken maths. But UM themselves state in their require
Following UPU program search. Taking with a pinch of salt on what was stated. They never mention the need of having maths in STPM, just SPM. If they are gonna prioritize those who do have maths in stpm then thats fucking scummy.
"JPT said Edward Wong, who achieved a perfect 4.0 GPA and scored 99.9% for co-curricular activities, was ranked 1,129th among 2,291 eligible applicants for UM, while only 85 places for accountancy were available in his top choice university this year."
UPU ni scam je bnyk. Scam untk lakukan pilihan belajar yg tk popular. Baik apply direct terus dari masuk upu ni. Dah la nk register kne bayar. Dah mcm masuk AF pulak family yg bangga anak dia dpt UPU. Lps tu perlekeh anak org lain yg tk lepas UPU. Mcm sial.
According to the media, "Edward Wong, the STPM top scorer from Penang whose case drew public attention last week, was ranked 1,129th among 2,291 eligible applicants for Universiti Malaya’s (UM) accountancy course, where only 85 seats were available this year, the higher education department (JPT) said."
Everyone here is busy making fun of Edward for daring to question the system but nobody ask why there is only 85 seats available for accountancy, a mainstream degree with high demand in University Malaya, our country's most important and well found uni. Is it really believable that UM runs a degree course with only 85 students?
Everyone here is busy making fun of Edward for daring to question the system but nobody ask why there is only 85 seats available for accountancy, a mainstream degree with high demand in University Malaya
You know there are other unis offering the same course and we don't know if he even picked those courses as his 2nd options because it seems like he's obsessed with UM.
Cos you’re supporting a comment in support of the guy who made a big deal about not entering UM even though he’s not really the best applicant by merit. Instead he use his kulitfication to try getting in by playing the victim game.
Also, only hiring a specific race because of your perceived merits is wrong no matter what race they are. There are also qualified Chinese and Indians who are hardworking when they’re not busy playing victim.
But not surprised by your racism judging by your comment history.
Sigh! Expect a whole load of gaslighting comments.
Like as if, the preference for one ethnic groups by our government is all in our minds.
Ethno-nationalists are truly disgusting. Not only do they attempt to suppress other peoples' rights, they also try to screw around with their perceptions.
Yes, I was the one who said you were spreading fitnah. My point still stands: a CGPA of 4.0 means straight As, period. Whether you’re applying to university or for a job, they only look at your CGPA, the overall grade. That B+ you showed is just one constituent score; it doesn’t matter as long as the final result adds up to an A or 4.0. It’s like saying an A+ with 95 marks is somehow worse than an A+ with 99. Nobody cares, they’re both A+, and nobody digs that deep.
As if fitnah wasn’t enough, you resorted to a personal attack, saying he has a “punchable face" in your previous post.
You’re nothing more than a racist Ketuanan bigot who openly denies and undermines the rights of minorities. You’re no different from the Zionists, lmao.
KPT already up the statement. perhaps, CGPA 4.0 with 99% merit doesnt promise you anything as there is more than "a thousand" CGPA 4.0 student with "100%" merit.
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u/boyi_bolommi 12h ago
even among S-rank hunters also have difference in level of power. you know what I means