r/Boxing • u/_Sarcasmic_ October 11th š¦ VS š» • 1d ago
Daily Discussion Thread (August 24th, 2025)
For anything that doesn't need its own thread.
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u/rajagopal2001 1d ago edited 20h ago
This is kinda unrelated to this sub but does anyone know what happened to r/boxingcirclejerk?
It seems like you are only allowed to post street fight videos at the moment with boxing in it's title
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 23h ago
I seriously wanna make a petition to start a new one. It used to be so funny. Occasionally the title will be funny but other than that, itās just rednecks and fat bitches half naked slapping the shit out of each other.
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u/Certain-Property1600 20h ago
Someone posted a streetfight video with a sarcastic mma vs boxing title and it got a lot of traction, so now everyone is trying to farm karma by just posting fights and adding a stupid mma/boxing related title to it, Really sucks because it's not even a circlejerk anymore it's just full of casual redditors trying to farm karma on fight videos that are multiple years old and/or reposts.
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u/Doofensanshmirtz Bujia Zapata > Ricardo Lopez 17h ago
I hear you and i'm with you 100% but you cannot deny some of the titles are really funny
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 13h ago
when i see that i turn off the audio and imagine the batman v superman theme song if anyone knows it
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u/Legal-Result6580 22h ago
It's weird cause street fight videos already has a sub of it's own but the nerds who took over the circlejerk sub apparently does not know that. It started to be cringe when they started that MMA vs Boxing stuff there because it gave the weirdos from the MMA subs a platform.
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u/zurdo_p 17h ago
Pretty sure most people on r/ufc were clowning the sub for turning into r/fightporn due the lack of original content.
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u/Which-Property9377 23h ago
That sub got brigaged and i dunno whay happened. Youre not even allowed to question the sub anymore
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u/TOP__DOLLAR i want to cum inside kate abdo 20h ago
no clue what happened to that sub lol. shame because i used to really like it
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u/zurdo_p 17h ago
Someone made a joke that someone in a street fight video was an mma champ handled by a less experienced boxer. Because boxing > mma.
It became a trend and a couple of them ended on r/all and now most users are not boxing fans.
I understand selling a YouTube channel or webpage for money, but exchanging a meme page for some updoots is lame af.
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u/Solidis262 Escopeta 19h ago
One of the mods is a weirdo who would use the sub to post his political opinions. Eventually somebody posted a fight vid and it devolved
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u/Baby_Rhino 3h ago
The titles used to make me laugh, but then I saw 2 videos in one day where someone was either killed or had their quality of life seriously degraded and I realised I had no desire to be subbed anymore.
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u/admiralskanks Joe Louis = Perfect 1d ago
Abass Baraou has never fought an opponent with a losing record. No journeymen, just regional guys, prospects and ex champions, fighting on avg 3 times a yr since his debut.
That CV, activity, on top of his elite amateur pedigree (Bronze in IBA Worlds and Gold in European), in hindsight shouldn't have been the overwhelming underdog.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
I think the loss to Culcay which I thought he shouldāve won and maybe Tellez amateur resume and undefeated record also I guess is why he was underdog.
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u/admiralskanks Joe Louis = Perfect 1d ago
Yh I guess. Culcay gave a hard time to Bakhram too tbf. A close fight with him is no shame.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago edited 23h ago
I heard that for the Canelo vs Bud card, Thomas Taylor is the ref and the judges will be Tim Cheatham, Steve Weisfeld and Max Deluca
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u/RRR04_ 21h ago
I don't recall Thomas Taylor being in many controversies so I think I'm okay with the referee selection. As for the judges, they are usual suspects in Las Vegas fights š¤£ in fact they were all involved with the Pacquiao v Barrios fight and most people hated the cards. Your bet for a draw is looking good now š¤£
Tim Cheatham had Figueroa beating Joet 8-4, scored Benavidez v Morrell too wide. Yeah, I'm not feeling too good about the judges, ngl.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 23h ago
Are you joking or are you being serious?
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u/Top_Profession_5268 23h ago
I saw it on a YouTube community post hence why I said āI heardā.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
Just checked the card for Igleisas vs Shishkin, itās stacked.
Having some prospects like Dzmitry Asanau, John Orobio and Wyatt Sanford who I really rate. Asanau and Sanford are both olympians with a decorated amateur resume.
Some good matchups on the undercard are Dzmitry Asanau vs Laos Douadi which is a step up for Asanau and Avery Martin Duval vs Luis Campos Courtez.
Thereās 2 other undefeated prospects on the card that Iām doing my ārespect scoutingā in seeing if theyāre worthy of my praise as a future true contender and potential champ which they both are Alexandre Gaumont and Moreno Fendero.
But does anyone know where I can watch the fight?
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u/jadooo0 23h ago
Gaumont isnāt a contender/potential champ, heās regressed and had a controversial decision couple fights back.
I think heāll be fed to Wilkens or heāll fight someone else in the EOTTM stable
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u/Top_Profession_5268 16h ago
Didnāt know that, thanks for the info.
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u/jadooo0 15h ago
BTW if you want to watch the fights you can watch it on PunchingGrace, EOTTM streaming service but itās absurdly expensive. Best way would be to watch it illegally
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u/Top_Profession_5268 15h ago
You know any websites because a few illegal streaming platforms donāt show ānon mainstreamā boxing
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 23h ago
If Beterbiev fought Canelo, do yāall think he stops Canelo? I asked this somewhere else but just wondering what people think.
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u/RRR04_ 21h ago
I believe so. Canelo was getting worked by Bivol, so imagine what Beterbiev would have done. Canelo has a good chin, but it was relatively untested at 175. It might not be the first shot that lands, nor the second, not even the third. Beterbiev would have been able to accumulate the landed number of shots and I honestly can't see how Canelo could last the distance against that, especially since he fatigues in the late rounds.
Canelo also had a hard time with Golovkin. Beterbiev was essentially him only bigger and had a better backfoot game.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 22h ago
Iām not a huge Canelo fan, but hard to beat his elite chin, even at 175. Bivol beat him up somewhat, but didnāt have him in serious danger. Golovkin rallied in the second fight and only briefly hurt him. I donāt recall Kovalev putting Canelo in danger.
So Iām actually inclined to think that even though Artur is a final boss that Canelo could probably go the distance. Caneloās defense and skill even at this age is solid enough to withstand the onslaught.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 20h ago
Is it just me or does it seem like Rolly has reverse CTE. Mf been smarter.
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u/Which-Property9377 18h ago
Yeah Tanks punch must did the opposite.
The difference between him and ryab post tank fight is certainly something
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u/Which-Property9377 22h ago
People question why i dislike the bud/shakur crew look at they are doing to Boots now.
Simply because boots is sparring with Canelo, Boots is now a "race traitor".
Its so fucking annoying how that group use race for everything when it comes to them as if Bud fans dont talk shit about boots...
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u/Notasexoffender33 21h ago
You know Iād think youāre being ridiculous if I hadnāt seen it myself. Every YouTube video I see covering canelo and boots training together has some people criticizing Jaron. Even on his Instagram post thereās some weirdos spamming the raccoon emoji, insinuating the obvious. Itās actual loser behavior. But I havenāt seen anything tying it to the bomac crew. Just a bunch of insecure fangirls.
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u/Which-Property9377 21h ago
Im quick to call out racism in this sub but its shit like this that makes thosw claims seem unhinged and victimizing. Its annoying.
God forbid a black person doesnt support every black person especislly when again the Bud/Shakur crew doesnt do the sams outside of themselves
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u/kushmonATL Inoue and Crawford up next in Sept š„šŖš¾ 20h ago
Is there any proof that ties Boots sparring Canelo criticism to Bud/Shakur crew?
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u/Which-Property9377 19h ago
Well their fans really. Look at comments covering the canelo/boots sparring
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u/Top_Profession_5268 15h ago
If itās the fans, why tf are you hating Shakur and Bud for that if itās the fans not the boxers themselves?
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u/kushmonATL Inoue and Crawford up next in Sept š„šŖš¾ 19h ago
Thing is , how do you know they are specifically Shakur/Bud crew fans , and not just race fans in general?
History lesson: did you know the LDBC did not support Terence Crawford, when he was signed to Top Rank and was PBC and Spence biggest opp? The LDBC/PBC/Spence fans were the very first group to start the hate campaign on Terence Crawford
So Iām curious to know why you assume theyāre Shakur/Bud crew spreading hate , and not Tank/LDBC/PBC crew who are widely known for spreading hate?
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u/Elite663 19h ago
Crazy how that flipped since the PBC diehards during the Spence/Wilder/Broner times were the ones labeling Bud a traitor or an outcast
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u/Which-Property9377 19h ago
Its just annoying either way. Like just because a black person doesnt support another black person doesnt make them a traitor
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u/Botoraka 20h ago
Are you talking about fans? Bud and Shakur havent been exempt from that either. For the longest Bud had racial hatred from black fans calling him a coon and "Top Rank Toby" for not coming to PBC. Shakur had some racial hatred from black fans after he openly embraced his Puerto-Rican heritage and praised Bam Rodriguez because "A Mexican wouldn't praise you so why would you praise him?"
Right now unfortunately Bud-Nelo is heavily racialized, so you have racist idiots on either side saying heinous ass shit, just run down twitter and that shit'll look like a MW3 lobby lmao
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u/Morning-Sunday 17h ago
Join r/boxingmemez , RIP boxingcirclejerk
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u/EnragedBearBro 16h ago
Idk what happened to that sub I just got mass downvoted there for saying ooga booga was racist
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u/Nytroman89 20h ago
Who are some great boxers who haven't fought in years but haven't announced retirement? GGG, Spence , who else?
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u/PugilisticProduction 19h ago
Never heard anything about Brian CastaƱo retiring, but he hasnāt fought since the Charlo loss.
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u/Fluid_Ad_9580 1d ago
Jaron Ennis first fight in his new weight class 154 is a fucking joke heās fighting a uber driver.
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u/626_ed7 21h ago
We might get a result like yesterday's between Yoenis Tellez and Abbas Baraou. Might not happen, but it's possible
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u/Fluid_Ad_9580 17h ago
Hopefully it does i aint a fan of Ennis heās overrated imo.
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u/Less_Cartoonist_892 12h ago
Don't know why you were downvoted. Ennis' resume so far is pretty mediocre, and he is 28 years old. The problem with Ennis is that he hasn't fought many quality opponents in his career, which is why people have a problem with him having a tune-up fight.
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u/Fluid_Ad_9580 11h ago
Who cares about downvotes i definitely donāt itās my opinion and if other folk donāt like i definitely wonāt lose any sleep over it Ennis is overrated end of.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
I knew about Abrass Barraou, I thought he won against Jack Culcay but I actually favoured Yoenis Tellez to win but was wrong. Barraou impressed me regardless. Still expecting that Boots beats Lima, Boots is a nightmare matchup for Barraou as Boots feeds on those matchups that Lima, Barraou and Tellez bring. He was mandatory last year around this time but then you think wanted to be IBF mandatory or something like that and Tellez became mandatory, now they fight for interim.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
Good for him but I was pissed. I donāt think Tellez would beat Boots but I think heās a better name for the resume. I donāt know maybe Iām overhyping the guy.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
Nah, Barraou is just really good, kind of forgot overtime how good he was. Heās been fighting on a regular against solid opponents with a great amateur resume himself. I think now heās getting some recognition.
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u/WheresMyAbs98 21h ago
I think Abass Baraou might be a serious player at 154
Heās never lost a fight (was absolutely jobbed in the Culcay fight) and has fought legitimate opponents from his very first fight.
Heās only ever been in there with guys trying to win from the word go
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
Lucas Badhi winning makes me 1 more step closer to hopefully winning my 12 bet multi of 100k.
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u/Jachola 1d ago
Since his fight was for the WBA interim curious how a fight between him and Schofield would go. Lol that'd be a full circle type fight since his claim to fame is knocking out Ashton Sylvie who Schofield was supposed to face on that same card
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u/Top_Profession_5268 23h ago
Yeah I never hearing about Sylvie vs Schofield but never heard what happens with it. Though if Badhi vs Schofield happens, Iād favour Schofield.
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u/meet_yourmike 1d ago
wgats the cash out and what was the bet?? same 1 you have canelo bud draw?
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
Put $100 and a potential for $100000. Donāt expect to win but itās the same one that had Canelo vs Bud to be a draw.
The third fight on the multi and Iglesias to win against Shishkin.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
Is he any good? Isnāt he also like mad old?
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u/Doofensanshmirtz Bujia Zapata > Ricardo Lopez 21h ago
Boxing fanboys are quick to dismiss the greatness of guys like Aaron Pryor and Evander Holyfield because of their use of "PEDs" and then turn the other cheek and praise people like Roberto DurƔn, who have publicly admitted to use "The stuff they give to horses" and have partnered with the same type of shady people (Panama Lewis)
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 19h ago
I donāt really know how to feel about PEDs. Pryor and Holyfield are fucking warriors, never heard that about Duran. Itās weird to me kind of. I always hear, āEveryone is on peds blah blah blahā but are they?
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u/Less-Law-2532 19h ago edited 19h ago
When Lance Armstrong was around it was like 65% of every top 10 cyclists were doping. All for riding bicycles. Now imagine how much higher the stakes are in boxing. The money, the glory, your health. It all feeds into this idea that u need to be at 100% peak and the only way u can truly do that is through peds like epo.
Theres also guys like Victor Conte who go on interviews bragging about how they can make undetectable designer peds for high end clients, athletes who have real money. Victor Conte is very active in boxing especially in nutrition/sport science/S&C training. A guy like that whoās been popped before should not be working in sports. Unless youāre as historically corrupt as the sport of boxing. But here he is helping guys like Devin and Bud somehow drop insane amounts of weight in very short time frames without it affecting their training. Weird. There have already been boxers from SNAC who have been popped but nothing that could directly implicate Conte, u know, the guy that also helped engineer VADA? Fucking ridiculous right? The guy has access to every single loophole and opening these tests have with up to date info this gives him the edge to always be a step ahead in tech than the drug commissions all by his design.
Iirc, Floyd Mayweather used to have a special relationship with USADA. Vs the Pac fight, Floyd was apparently so weight drained he couldnāt piss for his random test during the week of the fight, so the tester had to come back and Floyd provided a sample. Fishy af especially seeing as Floyd was never a weight cutter. There were also instances of Floyd hiding test results when he got sued by Pac. They agreed to reveal test results if Floyd did too. Floyd had to settle it out of court for an apparently exuberant price. http://queensberry-rules.com/2012-articles/did-floyd-mayweather-fail-multiple-drug-tests-and-other-riddles.html
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u/CommanderKilljoi 19h ago
I've never observed the two groups fighting in the wild. "He's a drug cheat!" and "everyone is on PEDs anyway", so I'm not sure if it matters and you just have to avoid getting caught, like speeding.
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u/kushmonATL Inoue and Crawford up next in Sept š„šŖš¾ 22h ago
20 days away from the Greatest Sporting Spectacle of 2025
The fight that will save boxing . The fight that will cement the winner as the best of this era . The fight to determine who is the TRUE P4P #1 . The Greatest Show on Earth . The best weekend of boxing (Inoue fights 6 hours later) . Mexico vs Omaha . Cinnamon vs Bud . Canelo vs Crawford
Christmas came early for Boxing Fans š„ššš
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u/philly_cheezus I PUNCH HARD AS SHIT 20h ago
This man promotes more than Netflix/Ring Magazine/Dana White does, where are all the promotions!?
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 19h ago
lmao i was thinking the same thing i was wondering if he was budās cousin or something
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u/kushmonATL Inoue and Crawford up next in Sept š„šŖš¾ 20h ago
Facts man , they need to fly me out for free for all this free promo Iām doing
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u/philly_cheezus I PUNCH HARD AS SHIT 20h ago
For real tho with all the money they paying these fighters youād think they would put in more effort to make this event a success smh
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
I remember I used to watch Showbizz the Adult a few years back and thought this guy was pretty funny. He obviously wasnāt the most knowledgeable or anything but he knew that and wasnāt super biased, had a show like everyday, fun boxing content creator.
Completely switched up, almost unwatchable at times. Has the absolute worst takes Iāve heard at times, gets butthurt when any of the comments go against him, has a show like twice a week, tank glazer, and has a cult-like fan base that reminds me of MAGA with the way people hang on to his every word. I still check his show every now and then but money sure does change people.
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u/Jachola 1d ago edited 1d ago
I stopped watching him the second he got that the DAZN deal lol, I think he just became too mainstream and even seeing clips of his takes lol you swear he was just a mouthpiece for the boxing circle jerk subreddit. The issue with majority of boxing YouTubers is bias lol, I like Wade but it's clear he's biased to Jake Paul and loves the guy, I like Proppa and his podcast but he's British lol and he's always going to big up a brit fighter, nothing wrong with having biases it just becomes hard to take you serious when it's clear you have an agenda.
š A recent example of Showbizz being goofy I've seen is he bet like 10k against Usyk, starts spewing all that same stupid "Dubois will knock him out this time or Dubois already knocked him out" narrative, then Dubois loses and he still finds a way to shit on Usyk lol
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
I know bro. He was saying the other day, āA lot of what I say, is very consistent.ā
Meanwhile, and this is seriously not a joke or exaggeration Iāve seen this man lose like 100k dollars in bets on fights, I donāt think Iāve ever seen him win.
Iām telling you, itās the money, once he started getting recognition from other people and other boxers and saw his opinions mattered, he started switching up.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago
I used to be an avid watcher of them both, but then theyāre too mainstream, talking about things Iāve already seen and talked about 100 times before.
Iāve seen their streams and they watch the entire cards and know prospects and lower weight classes (showbizz specifically) but they only post and highlight the mainstream stuff.
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u/Basic_Obligation_341 12h ago
Joshua vs dubious was the worst beating in HW history since Frazier vs foreman
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u/Solidis262 Escopeta 19h ago
MMA fans are so weird. That whole Raja thing has devolved into MMA channels using it to push a racist narrative
Like in one of the bigger videos one of the comments is ābut the socioeconomic factors!ā and the channel hearted it. half of them are either full of nazis, or far right. itās so sad to see it devolve like that especially as a fan
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u/Basic_Obligation_341 1d ago
I just found out Ggg didn't win his first real world title until 2015 he had the ibo and wbc interim before that
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u/Top_Profession_5268 1d ago edited 1d ago
He won the WBA in 2012. He won the Regualr belt in 2011 after he won against Tapia and elevated in 2012 once Degale decided to face Mundine instead of GGG and got stripped. He won the IBO title in 2012 as well when he beat Simon, Rubio in 2014 for the WBC interim and Lemieux for the IBF in 2015.
He was by 2015 the WBA, IBF, IBO and WBC interim.
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u/SSJ5Autism 1d ago
So fucking pumped for the fight, man.
Best version of Canelo weāve seen in years (close to Charlo fight form) vs most motivated Bud weāve seen.
I got Canelo winning but I wouldnāt be upset at all if I get this one wrong.
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u/RRR04_ 21h ago
Best version of Canelo, really? His last few fights don't indicate that.
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u/OldBoyChance 21h ago
He's looked worse and worse in each fight since Bivol. Maybe it's been complacency, more likely though it's that his body is falling apart. Hope I'm wrong and he has some dynamic performances left in him.
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u/SSJ5Autism 21h ago
I think anything near the form he was for Charlo is the best heāll have been since that fight, and he looks it.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
Man, I hope Bud wins lmao but I just donāt see it. I was watching Canelo yesterday and forgot how good he used to be. That shot he hit Saunders with that broke his face with made me cum in my pants.
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u/SSJ5Autism 1d ago
I keep seesawing myself. I like both, but truthfully Canelo burned me as a fan when he shamelessly ducked Benavidez.
However, I think this is the last great fight of his career, and 168 has been his best and most dominant weight class for half a decade now. This is one of those great ādo or dieā fights, same as ones like Ali vs Norton II.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 1d ago
I feel the same way. Tarnished his legacy a lot in my opinion. I think itād be great for boxing if Bud pulled it off though.
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u/SSJ5Autism 1d ago
Oh definitely. Itās crazy seeing people say theyāre not hyped and expect it to be boring. I think both being counterpunchers who love to actually throw bombs is gonna produce something great either way. But Bud making history would be crazy.
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u/Jachola 1d ago
I want Bud to win personally, especially with how Canelo was acting towards Benavidez and the fact that he decided to fight Bumguia and Bumlanga. But another part of me thinks the Boxing Gods are far too cruel for that lmao. Canelo has a blockhead, the clear A-Side with prefilled scorecards to boot. And that recent picture of him sparring with Boots Ennis who's probably quicker and fresher then Bud atp. Hard to see Bud winning unless he really pulls out a Mayweather and beats Canelo on the inside, outside and to the punch.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 23h ago
I really donāt want both to win. Bud specifically if he wins, people will think heās god literally even thought I donāt see Bud beating most of the 168lb contenders even if he wins against Canelo.
Canelo is holding the division too much, ducked Benavidez, popped, but Iād rather him lose to someone like Iglesias who is the only person below 175 who I see beating him.
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u/RRR04_ 20h ago
Ultimately, I think fans of both fighters will be unbearable after this fight depending on who wins. My thing here is, Canelo did not fight good opposition after the Bivol fight when he had many opportunities to fight Benavidez. Hell, he could have fought Morrell, Mbilli, Pacheco, etc. And now he is fighting someone who never fought at 160 let alone 168.
Bud got the payday, okay. But ultimately he's the one at a massive disadvantage, I can't hate on that. He's been severely avoided and disrespected for most of his career. And it's not like he used any controversial tactics to get to this position. This is why I want him to beat Canelo. If this happens, then Canelo receives the ultimate karma.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 16h ago
Itās just Bud will retire, Canelo still has the chance to lose to someone like Iglesias if he even dares.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 23h ago
Lmao, I can already see if Bud won, people making hypothetical matchups between Beterbiev and Crawford or Bivol and Crawford.
I get what youāre saying, if Bud wins, heās likely retiring, which takes away Canelos ability to hold up the division because Bud will relinquish the belts.
With that said though, the only reason I can see Canelo losing is because heās not the same Canelo he once was.
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u/Top_Profession_5268 23h ago
Remember when Canelo said he wanted Usyk at 200 or something like that before Bivol. Swear he had some believes as well, if Bud wins, people will be saying he smokes Usyk or someone like that.
I do agree on the last paragraphs.
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u/nutcasehavingastroke 23h ago
I still wanna see it just because of the delusional fans that think Canelo wins haha.
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u/Jachola 18h ago
Lmao I don't like either of them winning tbh. Crawford had the entire 154 division and while Fundora was ducking he could have fought Ortiz or Bakhram and now he's holding a belt he's never going to defend and just going to hand off to Boots AGAIN lmao. And Canelo, just wasting everyone's time. We can judge Floyd all day but only Floyd last two fights were kinda goofy. Canelo's last 6 fights have all sucked. GGG III (Who asked for this lmao), John Ryder (Stay Busy Fight), Charlo (A 154 lber moving up two divisions), Munguia (A guy that never even held a belt at 160 and dodged fighting anyone of note at the weight class), Berlanga (A b-level fighter that as soon as he fought fighters that weren't cans started having wars with Journeyman and should have been DQed after biting a guy lmao), Scull (A random Euro guy, more blame on the IBF) and now he's fighting a guy who started his career at 135...
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u/newrap 16h ago
Roach vs Gabriel Flores Jr in October/November
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u/Basic_Obligation_341 21h ago
Who remembers when fury and Joshua were supposed to fight in 2021 in Saudi but deontay won his arbitration and ruined the biggest fight in British boxing history ?