r/Boxing • u/VioletHappySmile444 • 16h ago
Terence Crawford will be stripped of his WBA 154lbs World Title when he fights Canelo in September, with the belt then going to Abass Baraou who will be ordered shortly after to defend it against Jermell Charlo
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 16h ago
Charlo keeps getting oppties
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u/ElPuas2003 Part-Time Boxing Enthusiast, Full-Time Boxing Hater 16h ago
Seeing how the WBA stands for We Blow Al, that makes sense
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u/Bruce-7892 16h ago edited 16h ago
Right? Jarmell is inactive as F too. He's just popular and brings in money I guess. WBA = We Bullshit A lot 😆
If Crawford is not retired after the Canelo fight I am sure he can get it back.
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u/-SOFA-KING-VOTE- 16h ago
i don’t really see the popularity either
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u/Bruce-7892 16h ago
As far as American boxers he's pretty popular but you're right, that's kinda fading cause he hasn't done shit besides try to survive Canelo like a year ago. We got him Tank, Garcia, and Crawford. Wilder and Spence until fairly recently. All guys who can sell a fight.
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u/DukeOfMania04 16h ago
What dirt does Charlo have on the WBA?
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u/Excellent-Monitor954 16h ago
It’s Al Haymon
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u/BoxerNotaFighterNow 15h ago
The money launching scheme king
Al can lose 1 billion but still get his fighters and himself millions of dollars. He really is a genius, makes no profit but still rich as a mofo. “boxing”
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u/A1_PunisherPipkins 15h ago
Damn Vergil keeps getting screwed over
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u/aceknighthigh 13h ago
Lol this has zero to do with Vergil, who made no effort to pursue the WBA belt or any of the top WBA boxers. Do you really think Tellez turned down a Turki payday to fight Baraou for less and end up losing?
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u/Abe2sapien 16h ago
That’s how it should be when you move up. Wild how Charlo keeps getting opportunities though 😅
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u/WeebIRL 16h ago
So how would Baraou vs Charlo be? New to boxing and never seen Charlo and became a fan of Baraou this weekend.
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u/Solidis262 Escopeta 13h ago
Prob Barao bc of momentum and activity
But if Charlo is as good as he was at 154 then him
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u/Lefty250 16h ago
I’m glad bud’s getting stripped after holding the belt hostage but Jesus Christ, fucking jermell being the mandatory is insane.
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u/joshisanonymous 15h ago
Holding the belt hostage? He won it a year ago, which is the typical time limit for a first defence once you win a belt. Who exactly has he been ducking or preventing from advancing over that time?
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u/Lefty250 14h ago
Yeah, won it a year ago and made no implication he was gonna defend it, he should have got stripped the moment the canelo fight was announced
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u/joshisanonymous 14h ago
Because he was hurting who by holding the belt that he won for all of one year?
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u/aceknighthigh 13h ago
He hurt Tellez and Baraou who both would have been considered world champions. Hell, Tellez might have gotten a bigger fight and more money if he had a full belt.
Also just not good for the sport or the fans to have champions that refuse to defend. It's better for the fans to have that belt on someone who will fight twice a year, instead of a guy who, at best, won't defend until damn near 2027.
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u/joshisanonymous 10h ago
You're all way overreacting. Who has ever even heard of either of these guys? And again, ONE year. That is just the normal amount of time granted for first defenses, not to mention that most big names fight max twice a year.
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u/aceknighthigh 10h ago
Nah man you just aren't informed. Plenty of people who watch this division have heard of Tellez. Also, you're just making my point. People like you will never know these guys if any big name or champion can just disappear for 16-24 months and avoid fighting guys who have put in the work and earned their opportunity. Crawford wasn't some huge name when he fought Burns...he was just a mandatory, and he was granted his shot vs the champion coming off jaw surgery with Burns only taking 6 months in between fights. This is how things should and have worked under normal circumstances. The champion has obligations and the sanctioning bodies make sure the guys who put in the work get their chance.
12 months without a fight even booked is not a normal amount of time and the issue is that Crawford won't fight at all at the weight. This isn't him taking a voluntary 6 months after winning the belt and then fighting a mando. Crawford fights once a year, not twice, and he's chosen Canelo. So in reality the belt will go undefended for at least one year, and most likely it'll would be 2 years for Crawford to even defend...assuming he doesn't retire.
14+ months without a title defense is already unacceptable. 24+ months to defend is deplorable and flat out bad for the sport which is why Crawford had to be stripped.
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u/joshisanonymous 10h ago
I watch every significant card every weekend and have watched hundreds and hundreds of historical fights. I'm not out of the loop at all. These guys aren't known, and it's not Crawford's fault that they're not known. Again, we aren't talking about 16-24 months; we're talking about one year. He doesn't even have all the belts. There are plenty of big names and belts at 154; no one has had their career derailed just because of Terence freakin' Crawford.
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u/aceknighthigh 9h ago
You're very out of the loop if you missed Tellez vs Jrock which opened the Tank vs Roach PPV card. You're the one asking who has heard of these guys.
Will Crawford be fighting back at 154 lbs in early December of 2025, yes or no?
We both know the answer is "no" especially if there's any rematch clause with Canelo. So we absolutely are not talking a year, we're talking 16-24 months. They're stripping him in September because they know he won't be defending anytime soon.
Your insistence on claiming this is "only" 12 months is asinine regardless, as we are past that. Crawford will be past 13 months when he fights Canelo.
No one claimed careers have been derailed, you asked who he was hurting and I gave a clear, accurate answer. Don't cry or shift the goal post because it wasn't the answer you wanted to hear. Baraou would be a full world champion right now if Crawford hadn't held the belt hostage for so long with no intention of defending.
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u/aceknighthigh 13h ago
Lol it's all silly. Crawford holding the belt hostage for a year with zero intention of defending and Charlo being talked about in 2025 when he's done nothing since collecting his check vs Canelo. Neither guy should be in the conversation right now. Tellez vs Baraou should have been for the full belt.
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u/Jachola 13h ago
Oh god I can already see the PBC plan, after Fundora either wins a decision against Thurman or Thurman somehow beats up Fundora or more predictably doesn't show up for the fight. They are going to do a unification with Charlo, and fuck off and not unify again lol. Zayas, Boots, Bakhram and Vergil better be ready to fight themselves lol
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u/aceknighthigh 13h ago
Jermell is done man. I expect Ennis, Zayas, or Fundora will fight him in 2026.
It's crazy Crawford still even has that belt.
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u/Relevant-Strength-53 7h ago
Hmmm, PBC fighters been getting those WBA belts and now this pathway for charlo to become WBA champ. Tank, rollies, Lara and now this... ?
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u/LastofDays94 7h ago
The WBA said “Not So Fast” when they saw Top Rank trying to set up a unification with the winner of that interim title fight. If I was Baraou, however, I tried to petition to get that unification with Zayas…. He’s actually got some interesting tactics that could cause Zayas problems.
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u/kushmonATL Inoue and Crawford up next in Sept 🔥💪🏾 16h ago
Charlo vs Baraou is a good matchup , let's see if Charlo still got it !
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u/acktower 16h ago
Zayas and Baraou have belts beating nobodies while Vergil is on his 3rd fight against a top guy with no belt on the line.
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u/TheFlyingWriter 16h ago
CHARLO?
Watch Bud come back down and finish that fight that was supposed to happen after Spence.
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u/RRR04_ 16h ago
Jermell Charlo being mandatory after not fighting at 154 for 3 and a half years is ridiculous. Being a "champion in recess" should have expiration dates!