r/CRedit 11d ago

Mortgage Approval odds for a house around 400-450k

Just wondering what my odds of approval are on getting a house loan approved I’m also not sure if to go through FHA and I can put more than 5% down payment. I have about 50k I can put down. I don’t want to move into the house I just want to rent it out and make passive income. I’ve also heard of getting a house that needs some work and refinancing in a year to get a good mortgage. Any tips help

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u/inky_cap_mushroom 11d ago

Scores are pretty meaningless. Applications are approved or denied based on your overall credit profile. From this all we can see if that you have delinquent accounts which does not bode well for grtting a mortgage, but doesn’t inherently prevent you from doing so. If you want real answers you need to provide more useful information.

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u/che161 11d ago

I have 30 day late payments on 2 cards and that was in early 2023. I have since then been up to date and brought my balance down and opened a new credit card account with AMEX.

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u/DoctorOctoroc 11d ago

Mortgage lenders typically care more about a balance owed on accounts with negative marks than the negative marks themselves. If you still owe a balance on them, even if you're 'paid as agreed' currently, that could be an issue for them - but that also depends on the rest of your DTI stats. Before any mortgage (or other loan) application, you want to implement AZEO to optimize your score and lower your revolving debt to near zero for the best approval odds and rate.

New accounts within the last 18 months also can work against you when it comes to a Mortgage as FICO scoring models commonly used for a mortgage application consider anything younger than that 'new credit' and some lenders prefer not to see young accounts on your file - although a single CC may not be a deal breaker.

With a score below 700, you probably would be better off with FHA - but since this doesn't seem to be a pressing matter (not needing to move and find a place to live), I'd give yourself 6 or so months to implement the goodwill saturation technique to see if you can get those 30 day late marks removed, which will put you in a much better spot to apply. If there's no time crunch, no need to apply with your current credit standing when you can work to improve it first.

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u/gonelikewind 11d ago

I work in capital markets, according to the data I see everyday your credit score is pretty average if you’re going through an HFA to get your loan (especially if you’re looking to get an FHA loan, you’re on the lower side for conventional loans but still within the range I see everyday so it’s possible).

What’s really going to matter is how much cash you have saved up. How much do you make a month? What is your debt-to-income ratio? You could always just talk to a mortgage lender and apply to see what you get. You don’t have to accept it.

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u/Hereforthetardys 11d ago

This is the answer you are looking for OP

You will almost certainly be approved but you’ll need a chunk of cash to get a decent rate

Not exactly a scenario for a rental IMHO

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u/avatarstate 11d ago

If he’s honest on his application, fha will instantly deny because he’s trying to buy a rental property, not primary residence.

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u/inky_cap_mushroom 11d ago

Seems like you should qualify, just maybe not for the best rates. How old is your new account now? Hard pulls ding your mortgage score for 18 months. Waiting until that falls off could help a little. Have you tried sending goodwill letters to remove the late payments?

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u/che161 11d ago

My newest card is 1 month, it helped me boost my credit score because it increased my credit limit by $5,000 and my credit card debt right now is $1,800 (my total limit is $6,000). And I have not tried sending letters, I called both banks and they stated they could not do anything in removing my late payments from the report

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u/BrutalBodyShots 11d ago

The right way to boost your score when it comes to elevated utilization from carried balances is to pay off the balances, not open another card to increase TCL. Now your mortgage scores are going to be held back another 17 months because of that new account, which isn't favorable.

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u/WhenButterfliesCry 11d ago

Definitely try sending letters, pay off the CC debt first (you shouldn’t be carrying balances), and I would also consider waiting until your newest card is 18 months old

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u/MEDDERX 11d ago

Just my 2¢, you shouldnt be trying to buy a house if you have credit card debt.

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u/che161 11d ago

Average income is 12k a month before taxes and I’m planning on putting 50k down

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u/che161 11d ago

Yes I have W2 from my job

These are my pay history since April this year

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u/che161 11d ago

Both I have a salary plus commission

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u/inky_cap_mushroom 11d ago

This subreddit is about credit. OP didn’t ask how much they would be approved for. They asked if they would be approved in general.

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u/inky_cap_mushroom 11d ago

That’s not what OP asked.

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u/og-aliensfan 11d ago

Your lender will likely pull mortgage specific FICO scores (2/4/5) so you'll want to know what those are.

Credit Myth #1 - You only have one credit score.

About 45 days out from applying, implement AZEO (All Zero Except One). This isn't necessary unless applying for a major loan, but it will optimize scores for the application.

Ideal Utilization [chart] - Step aside, 30% Myth... 

What's the serious delinquency on your reports?

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u/WhenButterfliesCry 11d ago

He has 30 day late payments on 2 cards from 2023

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u/og-aliensfan 11d ago

Got it. In that case, I second the recommendation OP request goodwill removal of the lates.

Goodwill Saturation Technique (GST) 

Goodwill Letters - Using the "CART" approach. 

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u/NiceGuysFinishLast 11d ago

Looking at your post history, you made $100K last year.

As someone who makes more, you do not want a mortgage on a $500K house.

That said, yeah, you'll have a shot at getting approved, because banks want your money. I certainly wouldn't recommend it though.

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u/che161 11d ago

I’m making more this year, tracking to hit 140-150K

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u/trmoore87 11d ago

Are you going to be making that much every year?

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u/che161 11d ago

I should be tracking that every year now

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u/Tooogly 11d ago

Hey we got Nostradamus over here

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u/che161 11d ago

What does that even mean?

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u/bipolarlibra314 10d ago

Sarcastically saying that you can predict the future, since you said “should” ie they’re saying it’s still a bad idea

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u/Unusual_Oil_4632 11d ago

No one could tell you if you could get a home loan just based off your credit scores

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u/GuavaBrief5945 11d ago

Well you’ll need to live it it for a little bit. You can rent a room out but FHA and VA you need to use it as a primary. 

Secondly yes, you won’t know just based on credit, lenders also use FICO 2,4,5 for mortgage scores. 

Overall debt matters less than how much the debt monthly obligation. How much are the minimum payments on each.

Lastly, your payment would be in the 3-4k/mon at 500k. I’d guess FHA rate would be about 6.5-6.75 free rate, though depends entirely on lender and what your mortgage scores came back at. 

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u/SamsaraSlider 11d ago

I came here to say that about FHA. If memory serves, you have to live in it as the primary for at least a year before renting it out unless you’re living in it and renting out a room to roommates, I think.

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u/GuavaBrief5945 11d ago

Yeah will need to be a primary the first year then free to rent out

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u/ErraticRage 11d ago

Rental properties are far from passive income. You have to worry about so much (payments coming in, maintenance etc and can be very costly in the end.

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u/International-Mix326 11d ago

What's your income and debt? With your score, fha is better, since conventional rates would be pretty high for you.

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u/che161 11d ago

My average before taxes is 12k a month, I have 1,600 in CC debt and then I have a car loan since 2022 that I am still paying off that I owe 15k on still.

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u/iwannahummer Knowledgeable 11d ago

mortgage scores are going to look much different than this. That TU F8 beacon could be 50-80pts higher than mortage scores, id go to myfico and pull all 40 scores before I walked into something without any information. Keep in mine a mortgage lender will use the score between your top and lowest score of the 3.

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u/Some_Caregiver3429 11d ago

Don’t trust credit karma.

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u/H8RxFatality 11d ago

Can’t you only take a FHA loan if you’re living at the property?

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u/avatarstate 11d ago

Yes. They’re are for people planning to use it as their primary residency, not for people to get better rates on rental properties.

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u/jmartin2683 11d ago

If you have $50k to your name and a 650ish fico, you don’t need to be financing investment real estate. Very, very few people should ever do that and definitely not you.

Put it in the market.

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u/Burkedge 11d ago

Your odds are 0.00%

20-25% down needed for investment properties and im pretty sure FHA is for primary residence buying only

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u/Adrenaline-Junkie187 11d ago

You make 12k a month, arent paying your debt and want to buy a house. LOL, ok.

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u/che161 11d ago

I am paying my debt? My credit card debt was higher and my car loan was higher as well. What is the problem?

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u/BrutalBodyShots 11d ago

Are you paying your statement balances in full monthly? Earlier you said you opened a card to lower utilization, where if you're paying your statement balances in full monthly you can manipulate and lower utilization at any point regardless of your credit limits.

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u/che161 11d ago

I have been paying more than the balance statements every month

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u/avatarstate 11d ago

You are paying more than your balance on your credit card every month? Why? That doesn’t even make sense.

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u/Jayne_Dough_ 11d ago

What’s your DTI ratio? How long have you been at your job? Do you have a down payment and where did it come from? Those are the questions a loan officer will ask.

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u/che161 11d ago

My debt ratio is around 20% of my monthly income and I have 50K to put down, been saving for 2 years and I’ve been at this current job for a year and a half now

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u/Jayne_Dough_ 11d ago

Have you been employed in the same industry for at least 2 years, no gaps? If so, I think you’re ok. You won’t be A paper but you’ll get approved.

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u/che161 11d ago

Yes definitely and okay that’s sounds good

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u/creditwizard Top Contributor 11d ago

Credit attorney here. The Credit Karma scores (Vantage) are not relevant for most mortgage decisions - though that is changing. As for what you can approve, this sounds like a question for a mortgage broker, who shops around with mulitple lenders. I'd go on Yelp or Google and find a great mortgage broker in your area, who can assist. Or, ask a realtor you trust.

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u/PumpkinSally 11d ago

FHA loans require you to live in the home as your primary residence for at least one year. using an FHA loan with the intent to immediately rent it out is mortgage fraud...

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u/TakeMeAway1x3 11d ago

What amounts do you have in all of your accounts? Checking, savings, 401k and other retirement accounts? What is your current debt? They will want statements from all of these accounts and pay stubs. How long have you worked at your current job? It’s more than just credit score. Good luck

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u/Ecstatic-Arugula1485 11d ago

Salary should be around 120k

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u/Willing_Oil9194 11d ago

There’s so much that goes into the decision that just KK credit scores. Talk to a lender and find out :)

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u/Kayel41 11d ago

Talk to a realtor or a bank not Reddit

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u/avatarstate 11d ago

Can’t use FHA loans for investment properties. A rental property is not passive income. Buying a house and refinancing in a year is only beneficial if interest rates go down, which isn’t a sure thing. You don’t seem educated or mature enough to become a landlord.

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u/Inf1z 11d ago

What’s your income? Looks like you are trying to finance at least $350k so you would need to make over $120k-150k a year and have little to no debt.

Also try to get your FICO 3 score, this is what lenders use and it tends to be much lower than FICO 8. Most FHA lenders will want to see a credit score of 620 or higher. Qualifying for a rehab loan is more difficult.

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u/che161 11d ago

I’ going to make 140-150k this year and not sure I have to check my other FICO scores but not sure where to check

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u/Inf1z 11d ago

You should qualify just keep debt to income as low as possible. If you are lucky you can get a 6% interest rate from a FHA lender.

Also some states have higher property taxes so if you live in one of these states, it may reduce your purchasing power.

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u/bcoates26 11d ago

Annual salary?

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u/che161 11d ago

140-150k

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u/jpinakron 11d ago

The biggest issue I think most have missed is how you don’t intend to live in the house. So this will be an investment loan, not a traditional mortgage if you don’t intend to live there. So everything kind of goes out the window. You’re most likely (I’m not a loan officer so I don’t know) going to need 30% or more down. Your interest rate will be a lot higher. They may require you to have a set lease/ rental agreement in place. And if you don’t have any assets (a house of your own/ other equity to back up the loan) you may have a hard time even qualifying.

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u/Altruistic-Tap5331 11d ago

Depends on cost of home, if its a VA loan, how much down on loan.

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u/Billflet 11d ago

In the past you couldn’t get a VA loan for a rental unless it is a multi unit and you live in one of them. Maybe it’s changed but I doubt it.

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u/OkGuess9347 11d ago

They care about your income and the confidence they have in you to hold up for 30 years. That score is vantage, meaningless. Check creditwise for transunion fico 8 and myfico for equifax and experian for experian. All free.

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u/Billflet 11d ago

There’s three slides. He’s showing both Experian and TransUnion FICO8.

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u/Awkward_Rent4749 11d ago

FHA will care about your debt report on credit report, loans etc to make sure you’re under a certain %

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u/Schyutes 10d ago

Not good

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u/Fr3shBread 10d ago

At this point credit scores are basically a box to check where bad credit is a red flag, and lower credit is used to justify a higher interest rate.

What matters a bit more is debt to income ratio. Basically they want to know that if you take on this debt, you have more than enough income to cover it and your prior debts.

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u/RobbinsNestCrypto 7d ago edited 7d ago

Previous Mortgage Loan Officer here. Your down payment is massive for your approval. Unless you have a large amount of debt or delinquencies, your odds are decent assuming you make the 140k to 150k you mention in the comments below.

FYI - the type of house you buy matters also (I.e. duplexes, multi family stuff are all different “riskier”buckets that are harder to approve).

Also, if you are self employed or rely on non W2 income it can also make it tougher. A lot of self employed people think what they pay themselves is what a bank can claim as income and that’s not how it works. If you pay yourself $140K from the company but write off a million dollars in random BS the government treats it like you’re broke and make no money. Thus so will the bank. (There is more to this but, just in general if you’re planning to take a mortgage while self employed, you should try to claim your income and NOT write off a ton of stuff… in general)