Has anyone done this canyon lately and know the water situation? Are wet suits needed or the canyon pretty dry ? And does Zion NP have a number to contract the backcountry station for info ?

Hat Hill creek is a pretty little waterway near Blackheath, Blue Mountains, that cuts through a couple of short canyons sections before plummeting down into the Grose Valley.

There’s no abseils so is generally a chill trip. High water after a week of rain made it a bit more challenging than usual but still a fun trip

Hey everyone,

I've been working on designing technical packs specifically for canyoneering, and one issue that kept coming up, is the problem of hydrolysis in nylon—where the material actually loses tensile strength when it's wet and abraded.

This led me down a rabbit hole to UHMWPE-based fabrics like Challenge Ultra 800X. The key advantages for our sport seem to be:

· Zero water absorption: Doesn't get heavier or weaker when saturated. · 100% wet-strength retention: Doesn't suffer from hydrolysis like nylon. · Insane abrasion resistance: Stands up to sandstone and limestone much better. · 15x stronger than steel.

I wrote a detailed blog post breaking down the science behind it, why it matters for canyoneering specifically, and the environmental benefits of using recycled content in this fabric.

I'm not here to just drop a link. I'm genuinely curious about this community's thoughts:

· Has anyone else had a pack fail because it got waterlogged? · Does the weight vs. absolute durability trade-off matter more or less to you in a wet canyon? · Are there other fabric technologies you swear by? Like TPU?

If you're interested in the deep dive, read the blog.

Cheers, and stay safe out there."

I’ll be in Arizona with a few days to kill this October and I was wondering if there are any particular canyons this community would recommend checking out? I’d love to view some native cliff dwellings and art in particular. I’m traveling from Oregon and not at all familiar with the area. I won’t be able to do anything too technical (won’t have my rope), but some exploring would suit my soul. Thanks in advance

Subway and Orderville!

Considering taking a detour to check out the jug route late next week. Appreciate that it’s an iffy time of year for it, so appreciate any intel if anyone has been there recently. Thanks in advance.

Compliments of my wife. I canyon, she paints.

Looking for some beta on the exit, what I’ve seen so far is between sketch and easy, anyone with first hand knowledge here?

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/seven-teacups-waterfall-california-rescue-20819572.php

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/seven-teacups-waterfall-california-rescue-20819572.php

We teamed up with a group of exploratory canyoneers on Vancouver Island to tackle the first descent of Storey Creek Canyon. Our spirits were high at the beginning as we passed through some beautiful sculpted limestone. The 8 hour day was full of downclimbs, logjams, hidden waterfalls, and the occasional rappel through an untouched part of the world that we were lucky to see.

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I'll be with a non-technical friend. I've spent plenty of time in Escalante. Peek-a-boo/Spooky was beautiful but a bit busy as I've gotten used to seeing no one or a few people. I'm considering Egypt 3 this time-wondering if it has any other orange/red hues. I know it will have the solitude. Just got to choose one for us.

Upper Uncompahgre, Ouray Colorado

Corbett Creek

Ouray Colorado

Just wanted some opinions from folks who have done Behunin in Zions regarding if the route has too much sun exposrue to really consider doing it this weekend?

Thanks,

In every resource I look at at, the Euro Death Knot is recommended for joining two ropes together as opposed to a double fisherman’s. In the application of attaching a tag line, is the advantage of an EDK that it is easier to tie and less likely to get snagged since it lays flatter?

I have permits to do Keyhole, Pine Creek, and Left Fork (Subway) Canyons this week. Has anyone done these recently? I know we’re in drought conditions, so just wondering if the water is low.

With current closures in Capitol Reef, is hiking to the start of Cassidy Arch trailhead a possibility from near the Visitor Center or somewhere closer to the scenic drive?

Looking for any recommendations of kid friendly walk-in canyons in Blue Mountains. Something along the lines of Joes Canyon in Mt Wilson or a bit more technical. Wanting to avoid any climbing out and long rappels, so I can get my kids some easy and fun canyon wins this spring before building them up to the more technical routes.

OK OK this is not exactly a *canyoneering* post, but I thought this community might know best! We are looking for a family-friendly camping spot in California that would be warm during the daytime over Thanksgiving. I'm thinking the options are 1) Death Valley (though it might be too far), 2) Mojave Desert, 3) Joshua Tree

Any other ideas?