[LES] I'm kinda tired of all the assassins being Superman (Sakamoto Days)

[u/NicholasStarfall]

It's not that I'm not enjoying Sakamoto but when I started the show, I was cool with Taro specifically being the ultra peak human badass. They built it up pretty well too since he's explicitly the bext assassin ever and his body was honed to perfection.

The last arc with the killers was where I first started to notice but as it goes on, more and more characters can do the same insane shit he can do with less and less explanation. Everyone's super strong, everyone can flash step, even the tiny girls with no muscle definition. Mr. Takamura gets a pass because at least he uses a sword and that's kinda different from pure fisticuffs, it makes him stand out. Anyone with an actual gimmick they keep too is alroght but most of the other assassins are reaching that Syndrome Level where everyone is special and thus no one is. I hope we get more variety in the future or at least that the "power levels" even out soon.

Another thing is, the word "assassin" has certain connotations so it's getting a little muddy when the show is slowly turning into The X-men.

[u/Divine_ruler]

My problem is less “why is everyone so strong” and more “how many of these fucking guys are there”

Like, X having his friends from the orphanage specifically aiming to manufacture Order members made sense. That gave us X and his Order level friends, the Order, former Order members like Sakamoto, and a few promising youths (Shin, Heisuke, Akari, Sebastian and his brother, that one kid from the school).

Then they pulled in new Order members from nowhere. Ok, I guess it’s kinda just a promotion for them, assuming they were already JAA assassins.

Then they pulled in more “promising youths” who already appear to be Order level, like the fucking bullet proof dude fighting Heisuke.

I don’t really have a problem with the power level of the characters so much as how little build up they had. Before the last few arcs, every new top tier character was actually built up and had an explanation as to how they were so strong. Now it just feels like the author is throwing characters into the story because they killed too many and need more bodies

[u/Mountain_Research205 → u/Divine_ruler]

Yeah the problem is new character can just fucking appearing like WTF.

[u/brando-boy → u/Divine_ruler]

in no way have we been led to believe that these new characters are anywhere NEAR order level or the slur gang lmfao

heisuke is currently 1v2’ing kumanomi AND the other guy. if they were BOTH order level heisuke would be cooked from the jump. we know how strong kumanomi is when she’s not being used as a gag, so the other guy, while certainly strong, isn’t insane or anything

lu and granny are fighting the cop guy now, and no shade to lu and granny, but they are nowhere near order level either, so if this cop was, they would both probably be cooked as well

these new characters are being introduced to either give lesser utilized characters their time to shine as the series approaches its end (lu and granny) or to add more dynamism to existing anticipated fights (heisuke), NOT to be insanely turbo strong threats. hell at this rate i wouldn’t be surprised if fucking wu tang ends up fighting the lady with the baby or something like that

[u/Mzuark → u/Divine_ruler]

I have heard that complaint, the author is just dropping in new characters because he plowed through his cast too quickly.

[u/Divine_ruler → u/Mzuark]

It would’ve been better if they actually had connections to any of the established top tiers or world building, like X’s Order Orphanage friends, the JAA school, or just JAA assassins that got promoted to the Order.

Like, since their first introduction, we’ve gotten 2 more people from X’s orphanage. The electricity guy and the archer from the prison. To me, that’s fine. It’s still new top tiers, but they are coming from a place established to have been designed solely for producing Order level assassins.

The prison arc was a great opportunity to introduce new top tier characters. Just have some of the lower level assassins take advantage of the chaos to escape/join Shin like Boiled did.

But no, we got 4-5 “hidden monsters” who aren’t associated (as far as we know) with any other top tier character or organization capable of producing them.

[u/AmazingDuckVer2]

I can somewhat see your point but the series has always portrayed assassins as superhuman. Similar to One Punch Man and the like, people in Sakamoto Days can just get super strong by training a lot. The series was never really meant to be grounded in reality.

[u/lordgrim_009]

How does takamura get a pass when the guy is the biggest bullshit this manga had??

He cut his hand and placed it back saying the muscle didn't die or something then cut open buildings, buses and everything for fun.

This old man nearly killed all of the gamer guy , sakamoto, nagumo and X in a single swoop while fighting all of them at once. He is like the biggest bullshit character in the manga which is already filled with them.

He is liked coz he isn't present more but everytime he is on screen he performs abilities that surpass the sakamoto verse

[u/Vpeyjilji57 → u/lordgrim_009]

It’s a manga about an old retired assassin whois past his prime being pulled back into the job. What could possibly be stronger than an even older, even more retired assassin who is even further past his prime?

[u/lietnam → u/lordgrim_009]

The most bullshit thing imo about takamura is the way he died, one of the most infuriating manga copouts I've read in a while

[u/NicholasStarfall → u/lordgrim_009]

I just think it's different because he's explicitly an anomaly in-universe. Dude has impossible strength and precision that even the top guys are afraid of. That's fine, it's everyone else being super strong that bugs me. 

[u/lordgrim_009 → u/NicholasStarfall]

Nah every other guy no matter how op they are seems like they have some weakness or someone who can standup to them in combat abilities. But takamura seems like u dropped someone from other manga here with how he outclasses others

[u/JustaTony56 → u/lordgrim_009]

yeah that's kinda the point, that's why he's mostly liked

[u/JustaTony56 → u/lordgrim_009]

yeah that's kinda the point, that's why he's mostly liked

[u/RoboYuji]

I think of Sakamoto Days as a ridiculous silly comedy dressed up like a serious action show, so it doesn't bother me at all.

[u/chaosattractor → u/RoboYuji]

It is not "dressed up" as a serious action show any more than e.g. Spy x Family is "dressed up" as a serious spy show.

Apparently people cannot recognise extremely obvious comedy if it's not literally South Park or American Dad or something.

[u/RoboYuji → u/chaosattractor]

And even when American Dad and South Park are playing up ridiculous levels of drama for comedy, people think they're legitimately trying to be serious.

[u/monocheto1 → u/RoboYuji]

I dont think so, the art of the manga doesnt portray it that well, in my opinion, the fight scenes are way better than its comedy which i find very simplistic

[u/OrganizationSea4490]

I guess its more of a Japanese thing with the media culture. The west has it too but its kinda universal with all action media. The protagonist no matter what is always an absolute marauder.

Id personally enjoy some more grounded level stuff with allat

[u/Lookbehindyou132]

I think the reason assassins are getting overall stronger is cause... so is the cast. And so are the stakes. In universe however I'm pretty sure a good 30-50% of the population have some weird superpower, even if just being strong and tough. Remember how Sakamoto got fucking deetroyed by some grandmas while shopping? Even if you argue he was off guard, which he wasn't, they still pulverized him. I can believe that some random dude just trained so much to be a pro wrestler that he just... became bulletproof. Similar to the imppssible trickshots Heisuke pulls off. The new cop is honestly one of the less superpowered ones. So far he just has a big spiky sasumata and can react quickly to minimize injuries.

[u/draginbleapiece]

The way I have mentally checked out of SD. Like, I just don't care anymore, ever since Thailand I think, it's been so mediocre.

[u/surik4t]

you realize shin was jumping around and fighting on a roller coaster in like chapter 9, or episode 3? i think this series has ALWAYS been about character being super human and sakamoto is not peak badass, he isnt even one top 10 strongest characters in the show

[u/monocheto1]

This is a pattern i also noticed in Mashle and i really dislike that, i find sakamoto way more enjoyable but i also dislike a bit of that gimmick, these series that combine comedy and action for some reason never seem to find the balance their daddy Gintama had, over the top strong characters where introduced spread apart from one another (like 100 episodes from Umibozu to Kamui and Hosen) and with the comedy as well, too many of it is about how strong the mc is and how they humilliate their opponents and not that much else (mentioning gintama again i can only think of 3 early examples being Hijikata, Kondo and the Ogre from the fight ring in episode 26-27 when all of them do it with the point of showing something about Gintoki s character and not just how strong he is)

[u/some-kind-of-no-name]

Agent 47 is awesome!