r/ChemicalEngineering • u/Engineered_Logix • Jul 02 '23

Salary June 2023 ChemE Salary Update

I received this information from Sun Recruiting - thought others may find it interesting. Reposted as first post didn't include the photo.

Edit 1: Link to the full PDF below. There were some questions if an advanced degree was worth it. There's a chart comparing BS vs advanced degrees as a whole in the PDF. TLDR; no it's not unless you didn't pay for the graduate degree out of pocket. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NqsMc1BaL3TlV1Da2ItRx3LCQPLG4Lh2/view?usp=sharing

Edit 2: Contribute to the salary data folks. It helps everyone knowing if they are being fairly compensated. I forwarded this PDF to my company's HR as well. https://www.sunrecruiting.com/salary-survey/

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u/Ritterbruder2 Jul 02 '23

$109,500 median for EPC? Damn…

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

I’m a manager at an EPC and make less…I believe it. People don’t believe me, but outsourcing and what not has made it so EPC salaries are pretty mediocre, not to mention you work long hours…

All engineering EPC work is going overseas by 2030, mark my words. Even at my own company, we are staffing up abroad at every opportunity.

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u/Stressedasf6161 Jul 02 '23

Lol you’re the cheme2023 troll aren’t you.

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u/Late_Description3001 Jul 03 '23

fucking 100% lmao

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

I’m not a troll? Idk what you are talking about lol

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u/ooo-ooo-oooyea 15 Years, Corporate Renewable Energy SME Jul 03 '23

Do EPC still pay overtime? That was the only thing I liked about it :)

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u/Engineered_Logix Jul 03 '23

I make straight time overtime for any hours over 40 inclusive of holidays too. I'm in a management role so even my overhead management time is paid out.

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u/ooo-ooo-oooyea 15 Years, Corporate Renewable Energy SME Jul 03 '23

Thats a sweet deal. When I did it, it was 1.5 pay for 40 - 60 hours. Past 60 hours it was double pay but that required special permission. We were all given 20 hours of OT a week with no questions asked. Unfortunately people abused this - we did 9 x 80 schedule, and folks would come in on the off Friday and just goof off.

Once you got past a certain level, it was straight time OT pay. Bad for the managers who actually knew what they were doing.

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u/Thelonius_Dunk Industrial Wastewater Jul 03 '23

The firm I was at did when I was in it 7 yrs ago, but I believe it was straight time only until you broke 50hrs, and after that there was a multiplier. Can't remember exactly what it was though.

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u/DixieSmiles Jul 03 '23

I’m currently in EPC where we make overtime after 80 hours per pay period (biweekly). There’s no multiplier, it’s just our hourly cost calculated from our salary. I’ve heard similar things from other firms but the hours or multipliers change

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u/Thelonius_Dunk Industrial Wastewater Jul 02 '23

How does EPC outsourcing work? Isn't a US based, state issued PE required for engineering sign off? How would performing engineering services work with foreign based engineers without PE licenses?

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '23

Not all EPC work requires PE stamping. Almost none of our clients require it for what we do

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u/Thelonius_Dunk Industrial Wastewater Jul 03 '23

Ok I'll be honest, I've been out of the EPC game for 7 yrs now, but I honestly can't think of much work that doesn't require a PE stamp for final approval. What kind of work makes enough money as an EPC firm to spend time on that doesn't require a PE? Hydraulic calcs, psv sizing, structural stuff, etc all require PEs. I could see maybe some project management consulting not requiring a PE though.

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u/raptor597dpj Specialty Chemicals / 10 years Jul 03 '23

I mean do PSV calcs, hydraulic calcs require a PE stamp? All of that would be covered under the company’s liability to operate. I’ve only seen PSV calcs stamped for one plant and it was odd. Structural would definitely require a stamp though.

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u/Engineered_Logix Jul 06 '23

I've never backchecked an off-shore PSV calc that wasn't vastly wrong. Usually missed cases and careless errors.

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u/[deleted] Jul 03 '23

We work in a spaces you mentioned and no PE is required

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u/Engineered_Logix Jul 03 '23

I work at an EPC. We stamp all kinds of stuff. Off shore EPC's suck for brown field work. We end up cleaning an off-shore EPC's mess!

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u/Engineered_Logix Jul 02 '23

Median 6 years of experience too.

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u/DaGoonersz Jul 03 '23

Is that low or high? Other industries in the screenshot shows that ~6 years of experience make around the same amount…it’s pretty decent, no?

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u/Engineered_Logix Jul 03 '23

I thought it was pretty decent.