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Chemistry Distillation of alcohol beverage not working.

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For context, I’m a chemical engineering student currently taking organic chemistry, and my group recently performed a distillation of an alcoholic beverage (wine, ~15 mL sample). We used a small distilling flask, a vertical column, a thermometer at the head, and a condenser connected through an adaptor (the connector between the column and condenser, which I’ll call #2). Cooling water was run at a moderate rate (bottom-in, top-out), we added boiling chips, and greased all joints to prevent vapor leaks. At the start, we observed a short forerun of 2–3 drops, during which adaptor #2 became hot and the thermometer climbed to about ~70 °C. But after that, the adaptor suddenly cooled down drastically, the thermometer reading dropped, and no further ethanol distillate came over, even though the column itself stayed hot. This confused us because we expected that if the column was hot, vapors should have continued into the adaptor and condenser (with ethanol boiling around 78 °C). Could this cooling be due to premature condensation inside the column before the vapor reached the head, or does this suggest an issue with the adaptor itself? I’d appreciate any insights on why this happened and what adjustments (heat input, condenser water rate, etc.) we should try to maintain a steady ethanol distillation. (Attached is our set up)

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u/Cyrlllc 1d ago

Might be a stupid comment but have you checked if your sample is boiling?

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u/GERD_4EVERTHEBEST 1d ago

😂😂😂. I like foundational questions like this.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

Yes it was. We already collected and discarded the forerun. However, #2 drastically changed temperature even though the wine is boiling and the column (#11) stays hot.

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u/Cyrlllc 1d ago

What is your thermometer reading at the top? Are you seeing a lot of condensate flowing back down the walls of 11?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

The thermometer reading actually reached about 70 °C at the top, and we got a few drops of forerun. But right after that, the temperature dropped to below 50 °C and stayed there. I also noticed that the column (11) was hot, but we didn’t really see a lot of condensate flowing back down the walls — it just seemed like the vapor wasn’t pushing through to the adaptor anymore.

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u/Cyrlllc 1d ago

Try running it with just water and see if youre getting any condensate.

A temperature drop usually means that youre starting to distill over the heavy component.