r/Chriswatts Aug 07 '21

Rules Refresher

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Friendly reminder to please make sure you’ve read our sub rules. If you haven’t done so in a while, now is a great time to brush up, as things may have changed since the last time you looked.

In particular, I’d like to remind everyone that we should keep things civil. This applies to the murder victims, their families, and also each other. And this definitely goes for other subs on Reddit. No “sub wars” bs - it has no place here. No drama. No threats of suing people for having opinions. No mass reporting every single one of someone’s comments, ever, because you two disagreed one time four months ago. Let’s keep it civil here.

If anything gets missed, please report it or use mod mail to flag it. We do our best, but we can’t be everywhere or read everything. Thank you to everyone who participates here, have a great weekend!


r/Chriswatts Aug 15 '23

Rules reminder: discussions regarding NK's involvement are not permitted here

36 Upvotes

Hello everyone, recently there's been an uptick in posts/comments regarding NK, ranging from speculation to claims that she was involved in the murders. We do not allow these discussions in this sub for the following reasons:

We have no concrete proof that she was involved. We used to allow speculation about her involvement, but the problem is those discussions inevitably devolve into people stating as a fact that she was involved or even outright stating that it was she (not CW) who murdered his family. For this reason we no longer allow any speculation or discussion about her involvement whatsoever, even if it's stated as an opinion.

We have to be strict about this because people are not mindful of the rules and continually break them, even when reminded. Our rules are in place to ensure this sub runs smoothly and remains a safe place which also abides by Reddit Content Policy.

Thanks for understanding and have a great day!


r/Chriswatts 1d ago

Why did Chris confess?

29 Upvotes

I'm still confused why he allowed the CBI agents to walk him down that path to tell on himself. Instead of just stonewalling even if he didn't ask for a lawyer.


r/Chriswatts 1d ago

Something he said in the prison interview…

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He casually admitted how easily he lied when told the story of telling his teacher he went to China. Essentially bragging how she believed him and he just did it because.

Pretty sure that admission throws everything he said in that entire interview out the window.

Took me a while to spot it bc it was such a throwaway comment. But listening back a few times over it’s very clear he gets enjoyment out of lying.

I now fully believe he had an affair with Trent multiple times and that his story of the 4am talk never happened. He killed her as soon as she walked in that house.


r/Chriswatts 2d ago

question about autopsy

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im pretty new to this sub, obviously i know about the case and have watched some docs but im just now starting to look into everything. i was wondering if someone could explain this part of celeste watts autopsy to me. does this mean her hand fell off? or does this mean her skin slipped off and left the bone of her hand? im sorry this is so morbid and its obviously horrible to talk about, im just trying to get more insight.


r/Chriswatts 3d ago

Why does Chris have a fan club and the nature of trolling?

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https://youtu.be/SxtNQW7XZdY?si=Vla00yEG-sv3uUZ0

Great video from a psychologist about Chris and his for lack of a better word ( I likes simps) but I guess they are "fans". So why does a murderer have fans? Worth a watch for her insights.


r/Chriswatts 5d ago

In what way could Chris Watts "be himself" around NK that differed from SW?

35 Upvotes

He mentioned this in the interrogation and his prison interviews. But he never articulated exactly how he was different. Is this just his projection and blaming ?


r/Chriswatts 5d ago

What would you ask Chris?

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If you could sit down with Chris Watts for 5 minutes and ask him one question knowing that he would answer you honestly (and in detail), what would you want to know?

For me it would be to ask him to objectively and logically explain what made him think he would ever get away with this?

I’d ask that because I believe he must’ve had more to his plan but just didn’t have time to carry out those steps and I’m curious what his full strategy looked like. I just can’t fathom that a grown adult would be this stupid and honestly think he could claim that she just up and took off with the kids, never to return…on her own.

She was 100% committed to being in an MLM. You can’t do that job and disappear. It requires too much networking and recruiting. And she loved it.

She was constantly on social media. Someone doesn’t go from posting constant live streams to never logging into social media again. She loved contributing to social media. She wouldn’t have just never posted again.

Someone doesn’t go from multiple contacts a day with friends and family to no contact without some big blow up happening. There was no argument that had occurred with her friends or her parents. It doesn’t make sense for her to have stopped communicating with any of them so abruptly…and definitely not with 2 little ones and a baby on the way.

Finally, Shan’ann literally told him she was going to fight for their marriage and she wrote him that long letter just before she left for Arizona. She not only was determined to make it work, but she demonstrated herself to be highly communicative to the point of over sharing. How did he not realize she’s be talking about all their problems, in detail, to all her friends?

I’d really like to understand how he didn’t see any of this as a profound obstacle to what he was planning because I just can’t wrap my head around how profoundly stupid he was. How did your plan possibly make sense to you with that many obstacles, Chris? How?


r/Chriswatts 5d ago

The fact that he holds on to his belief in Christianity fascinates me.

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It's not like he just committed a couple of indiscretions like adultery; he broke the cardinal rule, and to his own family to boot!

So I really have to wonder how he processes this in the context of his belief system. Does he really think that Jesus will give him a mulligan and he will make it past the pearly gates? Supposedly, he keeps a bible and a picture of his family. Is he really expecting to end up at the same place? I wish I could have that conversation with him.


r/Chriswatts 5d ago

Do you think Chris will ever fully process his situation?

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That he did kill his wife to start over with his mistress.

That he did kill his children as collateral damage.

That he choose to do this, not the devil or NK.

That he is a toxic pariah and nobody believes he is a "good guy". The only non family members interacting with him as damaged clout chasers.

And that he is NEVER getting out! Even if he lived to 500 years old.


r/Chriswatts 7d ago

Ok this is probably a terrible thing to wonder about, but... Do you think Chris was aware that shoving the girls in the tank would speed up decomposition

30 Upvotes

I apologize for the brutalness of that question but frankly he's not the shiniest penny in the fountain and so much of his work seemed to simply be routine. Shanann wasn't put in a tank, at least not before everything got uncovered, so I guess the question above is the prime one.


r/Chriswatts 8d ago

New prison letter from Chris Watts

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r/Chriswatts 6d ago

Does anyone know if he was the only child ? And how he grew up? Like his childhood

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r/Chriswatts 11d ago

Watts case detail that doesn’t make sense to me….

62 Upvotes

One thing I’ve always struggled with in the Watts case is Chris’ claim that the girls woke up after he first smothered them.

If that were true, why wouldn’t they have been terrified of him at that point? Why would they approach him again?


r/Chriswatts 12d ago

Horrible question I know.... but do you think he enjoyed the act of murder?

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Watts clearly has some form of schizophrenia that he managed to control for the majority of his life. Having such a potent evil side to his personality, I feel he built up significant resentment towards Shannan & probably the babies too. Being a total narc he no doubt blamed them for all the restrictions in his life & the barriers brought on by married life & fatherhood that he felt were in his way stopping him having the life & relationship he felt he was entitled to. The murders were carried out with significant ease & he discarded their bodies like they were garbage.

This tells me that the evil bastard enjoyed murdering them because there didn't seem to be any challenge or second thoughts when it came to the act of murder itself. He didnt stumble or pause to consider what a disgusting act he was living out. There was no tearful soul searching of what he was about to do. I think he enjoyed killing them immensely. In his mind they were a millstone & as the hero of his own story he didn't stop to consider how evil the entire thing was. He probably thinks people should cut him some slack & stop being hard on him almost like if he could just explain certain things people would understand & empathize with him. Little horrible bastard he is.

Furthermore, i believe if he DID get away with things for a while & was able to solidify his relationship with his mistress - the first sign of trouble in that relationship he would have begun to plan her murder too. He was a serial killer in the making. Thank God he was caught in time.


r/Chriswatts 12d ago

Would your parents have you back the way Chris' have?

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If you committed an egregious crime like killing your spouse and children.


r/Chriswatts 13d ago

How was Chris feeling on the day leading up to the murders of his family?

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Did he ever talk about it?

I know he thought he was a genius, but surely he was nervous, heart beating most of the day thinking about it

Did he ever feel nauseous or sick, especially when it was actually time?

Genuinely curious


r/Chriswatts 13d ago

Do you think on a level CW blames his mother?

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Just from my own experience seeing some very narcissistic people grip at any straw and anyone they can blame for themselves.

The fact CW mother even after the murders and conviction still held such distane for Shannon, if this is how she spoke after the murders, imagine what she and the family where like before.

I've no doubt Chris heard it all, and I wonder if that hatred from them (probably the only people he respects) helped embolden him to feel entitled to take their lives.

I just wonder if there was times he maybe blamed them? Even in his mind like "had they not riled me up so much I wouldn't of been driven to this!" or something along those lines, just as a way to blame anyone but himself. As he knows he did it so considering even in his mind he can't truly believe that him wanting a new life meant his family deserved the death penalty, now the dust is settled.

Does anyone know or read if he's ever referenced his families distance of Shannon as being a contributing factor?


r/Chriswatts 16d ago

Nate’s comments to the police

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Nate commented to the police that he and his wife would hear Chris screaming at Shanann. He also said he thought Shanann left to get away from Chris because the arguing was so bad. Just wondering if there was more to the reason why Shanann left to North Carolina besides visiting her parents. Maybe she wanted to start a new life but realized she couldn’t do it alone and decided to work on the marriage instead. The marriage had to be in bad shape if Chris was heard screaming at Shanann a lot before the murders. Anyone’s thoughts?


r/Chriswatts 18d ago

Best explanation I've seen about Nate's video

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Found this in a comment on Youtube. I think it makes the most sense. What do you guys think?

25:25 Chris drags Shannan’s body into the truck.

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48:30 Bella’s shadow appears; Chris picks her up and puts her in the back seat. He doesn’t leave this area.

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48:44 CeCe’s shadow approaches. Chris picks her up and puts her on Bella’s left.

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It takes him a little less effort to pick up the second, smaller child. When they arrive at the worksite, Cece dies first because she’s sitting the closest to Chris when he opens the door.


r/Chriswatts 19d ago

Cindy Watts & Nichol Kessinger

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Hey guys, I don’t know if this has been asked before but do you think that if Chris had done the NORMAL thing a human being would do and divorced his wife, you think Cindy would have liked Nichol? Or do you think she the type of mom that thinks no one is good for her “sweet little baby”?


r/Chriswatts 19d ago

Baby Nico

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I wanted to include a pic of Nico in the August 13 post with Shan’ann and the babies, but only one pic is allowed. I think baby Nico deserves equal time. Look at his little face and hands. You are loved, little Nico. ❤️😭


r/Chriswatts 20d ago

Murder Monday, August 13, 2018. 7 years ago today.

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Timeline.

At 12:51am Shanann’s phone connected to the Wi-Fi provided by Southwest airlines.

At 1:25am Shanann texted a friend that they had landed. This is the last outgoing communication found on Shanann’s phone.

At 1:48am Shanann is dropped off by her friend, Nickole. The doorbell camera sees Nickole’s car waiting... to make sure Shanann safely enters the house. With her suitcase in one hand and her phone in the other she hurries up the walkway, punches in the key code and plunges into to the dark house. You just want to yell to her. To tell her to turn back to stop her somehow... We all feel it, this instinctual urge to warn her is so strong and completely illogical. We know what end waits for her in that house but for her in that moment... it’s not yet inevitable. Watts's phone logged the Vivint alert of Shanann’s entry to the house. Their Vivint home security system also reported a “living room” motion sensor activation when she entered the house but no other activations were recorded until later that morning.

Between 1:48-4:23am there was no movement detected by Vivint on the main floor of the home.

At 2:01am Nickole sent out a group text “We are home.”

At 2:18am the homes router logged an unspecified activity in Watts’s phone.

At 5:15am a neighbor, Bette, left her house and noticed Watts’s truck with the lights on.

At 5:18am Watts starts his work truck.

At 5:27am truck backs up the driveway.

By 5:48am Watts leaves driving the approx. 47 miles to Cervi 3-19.

At 6:16am Kessinger’s phone pings in Frederick.

At 6:29am Watts made 3 unanswered calls to Kodi.

At 6:31am Watts texts Kodi “Where you at?”

At 6:32am Kodi texts Watts “Just got fuel in Kersey.”

At 6:32am Watts made another unanswered call to Kodi.

At 6:33am Watts texts back “ok, I’m in Cervi. Where you going first?” Although his GPS shows him only arriving in “Keenesburg” (location of Cervi ranch) at 6:53am.

At 6:33am Kodi responds “DPC state.”

At 6:33am Watts responds with “👍”

At 6:35am Kodi texts “I need to call Chad and see if he plans on still stroking the 10-29 out there to see if it'll pump up... if so, I'll have to meet him, or he will have to get the cannon plugs from Tony, OK?”

At 6:35am Watts responds “ok, let me know before I leave here”

At 6:38am Kodi added “I think Chad may be heading out there today. Phone was breaking up pretty bad.”

At 6:39am Watts makes an unanswered call to a Chad.

At 6:41am Watts texts Chad “You headed out to Cervi? I’m out here... Kodi said something about pumping up the 1029.”

At 6:43am Chad texts Watts “Well since you're out there, you want to fire it up? Have Kodi bring his cables.”

At 6:44am Watts responds “ok I will.” Chad relied “Ill head that way in a bit.”

At 6:53am Watts arrived at Cervi (Keenesburg according to his GPS)

At 6:59am Kodi texts Watts “I guess I'm headed out that way to start up the 10-29 and Chad will be meeting out there.” Watts responds “OK.”

At 7:18am Watts takes a pic of his laptop screen presumably sitting in his truck.

At 7:20-7:30am Kodi arrives at Cervi state well (10-29?)

At 7:40am Watts sent a staged message to Shanann’s phone “If you take the kids somewhere, please let me know where they are at!”

At 7:40am Watts made 2min call to Troy.

At 7:41am Kodi texts Watts “I'm here at the 10-29 now. You mind coming out here? Just in case something gets sideways”

At 7:43am Watts texts Kodi “Yea, I’m at 319. One sec.” Then takes pic of leak.

At 7:43am Watts made 2min call to coworker Luke.

At 7:43am Kodi texts Watts “10-4 how’s it look?” Watts replied “fresh-lol”

At 7:47am Chad makes 2min call to Watts.

At 7:51am Kodi asks “Is it a lot?” Watts responds by sending the pic of leak.

At 7:55am Kodi asks “Want me to bring some gator? We can try and pressure test the line too if you want.”

At 8:00am Watts replies “I got it handled. Thanks, though.”

At 8:00am Kodi “10-4”

At 8am Chad claims to arrive at Cervi 3-19 with Melissa Parrish-separate trucks. Parish says 8:25am

At 8:25am Watts staged another call to Shanann.

At 8:26am Watts searched the Primrose school. Seconds later he called the school to say they wouldn’t be attending anymore. Then asked, “They’re not there are they?”

At 8:28am Watts made a 3 min call to realtor Ann Meadows. He told her that he and Shanann were divorcing after not getting along for a year and that no one knew, not even his family.

At 8:38am Kodi made unanswered call to Watts (Kodi’s interview)

At 8:43am Nickole texts Shanann “How are you?”

At 8:45am Watts calls Kodi back (Kodi’s interview)

At 8:55am Nickole texts Shanann “Just wanted to see if you were ok. I know you were hurting a lot last night. Hope your ok.”

At 9:00am Cassie texted Shanann “How are you doing honey?”

At 9:05am Shanann had an appointment reminder scheduled in her phone.

At 9:05am Watts made a 4min call to the realtor about selling the house.

At 9:15am Shanann missed her Doctor’s appt.

At 9:21am Nickole texts Shanann “Let me know how your appointment goes.”

At 9:30am Watts left Cervi 319 and drove to Cervi UPRC 10-29.

At 9:31am Troy McCoy left Cervi 3-19 (GPS)

At 9:39am Watts arrived at Cervi 10-29 (where he remained according to his GPS until 12:57pm) At 10:03am Cassie texts Shanann “Honey you have me worried about you. Please tell me your ok and just don’t want to talk.”

At 10:06am Centura health made a call to Shanann’s phone.

At 10:10am during a respite after disposing of his family Watts searched for the lyrics for the Metallica song “Battery.” He later claimed this search was inspired by NK asking what the lyrics meant.

“Battery” by Metalica “Lashing out the action. Returning a reaction. Weak are ripped and torn away. Hypnotizing power. Crushing all that cower. Battery is here to stay Smashing through the boundaries. Lunacy has found me. Cannot stop the battery. Pounding out aggression. Turns into obsession. Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family. Battery is found in me Battery Battery Crushing all deceivers. Mashing non-believers. Never ending potency. Hungry violence seeker. Feeding off the weaker. Breeding on insanity Smashing through the boundaries. Lunacy has found me. Cannot stop the battery. Pounding out aggression. Turns into obsession. Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me Battery Battery Circle of destruction... Hammer comes crushing. Powerhouse of energy. Whipping up a fury. Dominating flurry. We create the battery Smashing through the boundaries. Lunacy has found me. Cannot stop the battery. Pounding out aggression. Turns into obsession. Cannot kill the battery Cannot kill the family Battery is found in me.”

At 10:28am Shanann’s mom, Sandy, texts Watts asking, “Is Shanann ok?” Watts made an unanswered call to Sandy. She in turn made a 1min call back to Watts.

From 10:33-10:41am Watts searched the internet for hotels in Aspen. Calling the Westin Snowmass resort and looking up groupons.

At 10:44am Sandy made a brief call to Watts.

At 10:51am Watts made a 1min call to Sandy.

At 11:46am Nickole texts Shanann “I'm very worried about you I'm coming to your house.”

And this is when the shit started to hit the fan for CW. Shanann’s mom and friends start calling and texting him frantically.

At 12:15am Josh Rosenberg texts Watts "Hey bro. Cassie asked me if l've heard from Shanann today. guess her and Nicki can't get ahold of her. Have you heard from her today?"

At 12:16pm Watts stops and takes some pics of sunflowers in an open prairie. And it’s right then that it happens.

At 12:17pm Watts’s phone received an alert from his Vivint panel. Someone was at the house, messing with the doors, looking in the windows. The same friend who had waited as she watched Shanann safely enter the house was not taking any of Watts’s shit. In fact, very quickly through the many texts and calls it becomes clear that none of Shanann’s friends were messing around. As Watts spun his stupid “we’re separating...she’s on a play date... please don’t think I’m a bad person” story, almost everyone in Shanann’s life knew something was very wrong and were all asking the same thing. Where are Shanann and the girls?

At 12:18pm Watts made a 1min call to Nickole. Telling her to please leave and stop messing with the doors.

At 12:21pm Watts texts his friend Josh “I just talked to Nicki. Shanann went to a friend's house with the kids today. I haven't heard from her since. I will keep you updated though. His friend responded that the girls were worried. Watts responded “I know. I just saw Nicki on the doorbell camera.”

At 12:27pm Watts made a 2min call to Nickole.

At 12:27pm the realtor texted Watts “"Hi. l'm working on your market analysis my listing coordinator with me when I bring it. Did you finish the basement? Any other upgrades?"

At 12:31pm a friend of Shanann’s, Addy, texts Watts asking if Shanann was ok “Everyone is worried. It's not like her to not respond and we haven't heard back from her all day.”

I will point out that there were a few people, in CW’s life, who in later interviews with LE, stated they were not worried at this point. Watts, his parents and Kessinger. Who all claimed they figured she had just left for the day. Just took off with the girls... to get some quiet... to punish Chris... to... “decompress.”

Between 12:40-12:47pm Nickole was at Shanann’s doctor's office confirming that she had missed her appointment.

At 12:41pm Watts made a 1min call to Nickole. Asking her if she was still at the house messing with the doors.

At 12:42pm Shanann’s phone showed an alert “garage door open.”

At 12:43pm another friend of Shanann’s, Cassie, texts Watts “Shanann is in a very bad way emotionally and I'm worried about her...I know you are having issues, but I don’t know to what extent, but I do know I have never seen her so broken to an extent I am worried.

At 12:47pm Nickole texts Shanann “I have been to your house you wont open the door. Your alarm set your shoes are sitting inside. Your cars home I am so very concerned about you right now I need you to text me or call me and just tell me OK if you don’t wanna talk to nobody you don’t wanna be around nobody I get it its fine but I need to know your OK.”

At 12:47pm Nickole left Shanann’s dr headed back to the Watts house.

Watts replied “She went to a friend's house with the kids. She won't tell me where though. When I get home, I will update you.”

Minutes later Cassie responded “Sweetie nobody knows about you and her other than Nicki and I so where would she go if not with Nicki and not to Arizona where I'm at? Her car and shoes and everything are at the house. What the heck is going on with you guys that she would totally shut out everything? It's not like her.”

Watts responds “I told Nicki about it so she wouldn’t freak out anymore at the house. We talked last night and I told her I wanted to sell the house, get something smaller. Separation would be best right now if we can work thru the issues. I really don’t want you to think I'm a bad person.”

Cassie replied “Right now I don’t care about you or your relationship or what type of person you are or not, or what I think of you and I'm not trying to be rude when I say that.”

Watts takes the time to respond to the realtor's questions “"Basement is still unfinished. No other upgrades."

Watts then defecates on the south side of the holding tanks on CERVI 10-29.

At 12:57pm Watts left Cervi 10-29 (GPS) heading towards home.

At 1:03pm Cassie chastised Watts saying her only concern was for his “damn wife and her well-being.” She texts “Nicki is calling the police. She is broken emotionally... her blood sugar dropped due to not eating and it could cause her to pass out...so unless you want the police to bust your damn door down you get home and check on your family.”

The realtor responded to Watts suggesting he look at another similar house on Saratoga trail.

At 1:05pm Watts texts Cassie “I’m going home. On my way. Don’t call the cops. I will be there in 45min.” The friend replies “Nicki and I know what state she was in all weekend and we want to see she isn't in the house, because this is seriously a concern.”

At 1:07pm Watts made a 1min call to Cassie. Telling her not to get the police involved.

At 1:13pm Troy asked Watts “I hope everything is ok man if you need anything let me know.”

At 1:14pm Watts corresponds again with the realtor about a 3-car garage for his next home purchase.

At 1:31pm Nickole called Watts briefly. “Chris, where are you? (45 minutes out) I’m calling the police” (17 seconds)

At 1:36pm Nickole calls the Frederick Police Department.

At 1:40pm Officer Coonrod was dispatched to the Watts house.

At 1:50pm Officer Scott Coonrod shows up at the Watts house.

At 1:59pm Nickole called Watts briefly.

At 1:59pm Troy McCoy left Cervi 10-29 and drove to Hudson, Colorado.

At 2:01 Watts stops at 6507 Black Mesa rd. for four minutes.

At 2:07pm Watts arrives home. Quickly grabs something out of the Lexus and rushes in through the garage door. CW is in the house alone for 1 minute before letting everyone in through the front. Nate the neighbor comes to see what’s going on.

As Watts, police, Nickole and her son look through the house Nickole notices Shanann’s bed it stripped with sheets and blankets piled in the corner. The girl's beds are unmade and Shanann’s purse as well as their medications are found in the house.

At 2:10pm Watts runs down to the basement then back up to the laundry room to let Dieter out.

At 2:10pm yet another friend of Shanann’s, Christina, texted Watts “What is going on??? Where are you! We are so worried WTF.”

At 2:11pm Watts texts Shanann’s phone “where are you?”

At 2:12pm Nickole’s teenage son, Nick, finds Shanann’s phone between the couch cushions. Watts admits he cannot unlock the phone as Shanann had changed her passcode to a 6-digit passcode. A friend suggested the baby’s due date and that unlocked her phone.

At 2:14pm Shanann’s phone “blows up” with worried messages from friends after it’s turned on. the afternoon moved into evening the messages became gut wrenching pleas to hear from Shanann, sending her prayers, hope and their love. Shanann, Bella, Celeste and Niko were clearly loved and cared for by many many people. And many of Shanann’s closest already had Watts in their sights.

At 2:15pm Nickole texts Shanann “I have the cops at your house.”

At 2:25pm Watts “finds” Shanann’s ring on the nightstand. Nickole states she hadn’t seen the ring on the nightstand prior to this even though she had looked in the room.

At 2:26pm Watts responds to Christina “the police are here, call you when I know.”

At 2:27pm Watts texts Troy “Cops are here.”

At 2:38pm Watts and Officer Coonrod go next door to Nate’s to watch his surveillance footage.

At 2:40pm Detective Baumhover arrives at the Watts house.

At 2:42pm Troy texts Watts “I am sorry to hear that man. If it gets crazy and you need a place to stay you know you are more than welcome at my place.” Watts responds “Thanks man. I truly appreciate it! Truly!!

At 2:44pm Watts texts Kessinger “Omg that is absolutely ridiculous!! They would freak out!!!!!!” (Literally 6 exclamations) If I’m right, the time would put CW watching Nate’s surveillance footage.

At 3:00pm Kessinger left work to meet up with her friend, Jim, at her apartment.

At 3:45pmish Kessinger claims Chris sent her a text saying something like, ‘My family’s gone…”

At 3:46pm Addy texts Watts “What's happening? I'm so worried” Watts made a 6min call to Addy.

At 3:48pm Addy group texts the worried friends “The police need to look at Chris’s cell!!!! And computer.”

LE performs a search of the house.

With LE at the house just staring at Watts, this whole period of time is accounted for in the bodycam footage.

At 4:00pm Kessinger claimed to call Watts at which point he told her the cops were at his house and that Nicky had called them. She also said nothing he said that day was alarming. Kessinger advised Watts to move his truck so Shanann would not be scared to come home. Kessinger claimed that Watts was pretending to not know Shanann was pregnant. Kessinger said she did not find out about the pregnancy until Tuesday from the news. Kessinger asked Watts to delete their texts. Kessinger also suggested Watts pawn Shanann’s wedding ring.

At 5:00 Lauren Arnold showed up at Watts’ house to help look for Shanann, Bella and Celeste.

At 5:01pm Kessinger made 2 unanswered calls to Watts. Both were deleted.

At 5:30pm Watts made an unanswered call to NK. Deleted.

At 5:48pm unaware of events the realtor asked if Watts had drove by a suggested new house. Completely aware of events Watts still replied “Just did. Yup that’s the exact model.” When the realtor later asks why Shanann isn’t responding to texts, Watts awkwardly admits “She hasn’t been around all day. It’s very odd.”

At 7:59pm Troy texts Watts “Hey man any news? Not trying to bother you I know you are going through a lot. I am praying for you man.” Watts responds “No news man. Police searched the entire house.”

At 8:18pm Troy responds to Watts “sorry to hear that man. I will keep praying for you guys that everybody id found and returned home safely. If you need anything just let me know.”

At 8:24pm Watts responds to Troy “Thanks man!”

At 9:12pm Officer James calls from Frederick PD.

At approx. 9:30pm Dave Colon and Jeremy Lindstrom show up at the Watts house to offer their help in looking for Shanann, Bella and Celeste.

At 9:48pm CW makes a 50min call to NK. Sometime between these 2 calls NK also FaceTime with CW. She also claimed it was at this time CW was cleaning the house and washing the sheets because they “smelled.”

At 11:09pm NK makes a 52min call to CW. Deleted.

(At some point during the day: Kessinger suggests Watts open a 2nd bank account.)

Shannan, Bella, Celeste and Nico deserved so much better… shine on girls.


r/Chriswatts 20d ago

Tiktokers posing in front of their home

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This is a tiktoker named lilybchapman who wanted to do true crime and thought having a photoshoot at the watts family home was cute and quirky. I think its absolutely disrespectful and vile behavior.


r/Chriswatts 21d ago

7 years ago today, Shanann was worried. Pregnant and struggling, she believed if she could just reach out to her husband, they could work together to save their marriage. She had no idea how dire the situation really was.

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On August 12th, 7 years ago, Shanann would spend her last day alive with her friends and coworkers in Arizona but her mind was on her failing marriage and her girls. At 7:32am Shanann texted CW “Good morning, baby. Love you😍” this text was not found in CW’s phone (if he deleted it...why?)

At 8:09am Shanann asked how the girls were and texted “Miss you guys! Give them kisses for me.”

At 8:46am NK made a 30min call to CW.

At 10:30am Shanann asked CW to send her pics of the girls saying “I miss them.” And Watts took and sent one of the last known images of Celeste in life.

At 10:45am CW searched for Mount Colima. He saved an image of the volcano spewing lava and smoke.

Throughout the day Shanann continued to text asking about her girls, planning the first day back to school, begging CW to talk to her and sharing her relationship struggles with her friends. At 12:17 one of the last known photos of Shanann in life was taken.

By 1:30pm CW had the girls at a birthday party and by all accounts his behaviour was normal. He even stuck with the rules and offered the girls an alternative treat to the birthday cake because of allergies. Two days later the girls shoes, apparently still wet from the party, were seen by LE on the front porch. These were the same shoes the dog handlers used for scent to search for Bella and Celeste.

At 3:14pm CW texts NK from the party “I’m still at the bday party. Kids are soaked from the water balloons😜”

At 3:56pm Shanann again asked about her girls, CW replied they were having fun at the party. Shanann texts back “Good, I’m glad. Ok, love you.” CW did not respond.

At 4:07pm he texts NK again “Been pounding fruit and had a whole jar of asparagus. He didn’t smoke any bbq this time. He did hot dogs so I did the fruit and veggies💪”

At 4:56pm CW again searched up a volcano, Paracutin.

At 5:06pm CW texts coworker, Kodi, confirming he would go straight from his house to Cervi 319 in the morning.

At 5:07pm CW and the girls FaceTimed with Shanann’s parents for 12 minutes. Frank heard Celeste talking about “mommy coming home” and CW told her that she was coming home tonight, and when she woke up the next morning her mom would be home. This was the last time the girls were seen alive by anyone other than their murderer.

At 5:20pm Kodi texts back explaining he had planned to go to Cervi 319 first thing in the morning himself. 3 minutes later CW replies “no sense in both of us going out there lol”

At 6:09pm Kodi replies “Alright sounds good man, I appreciate it.” This confirms for CW that he will be first to Cervi 319 the next morning.

At 6:44pm CW took a pic of the temperature setting of the fridge.

At 6:47pm CW took a pic of 4 chicken breasts on the bbq.

When, at 7:46pm, Shanann asks if the girls are in bed and for pics of the girls CW says “Bella just back in bed” and resent the pics from earlier that day. He included 1 additional pic of Bella at the party, this is the last known photo of Bella taken in life. Shanann continued to text and call CW trying to communicate and resolve her fears of the impending doom of her marriage. She ends up texting friends instead, planning what she might say to her husband “Can you please tell me something? I need you to give me just a little bit of what I did, or didn’t do, so I’m not going crazy in my head to figure it out.”

At 8:33pm Shanann texts CW “Thank you for taking good care of the kids this weekend so I can learn and work, I appreciate it!”

At 9:28pm CW makes a 111min call to NK which ends at exactly 11:19pm.

At 9:30pm Shanann makes an unanswered call to CW.

At 9:44pm Shanann texts CW informing him of her flight delay.

At 11:21pm CW finally replied to Shanann texting “Holy crap. Sorry, I passed out on the couch. That’s gonna be late.”

My guess is the plan was in motion as soon as he confirmed he would be the first to Cervi 319 the next morning. I find the pics of volcano, fridge temp and chicken on the bbq at this critical time perplexing... maybe they were meant to be used as coded messages or just marking times for himself? I don’t believe CW is completely truthful in any of the confessions and it’s anybody’s guess what really happened between 6pm and approx 7:30am when coworkers showed up at Cervi.

One thing is for sure... Shanann was worried. Pregnant and struggling with an impending sense of doom, believing if she could just reach CW they could work together to keep their family together. Through her texts you can feel her desperation and confusion, hope biting at her nerves her fears closing in on her. And yet... she really had no idea how much more horrible the situation really was and how could she? How could she fathom the extent of his father facade and his absolute moral depravity. CW’s self proclaimed soul mate was not Shanann, it was Nichol Kessinger.... he felt he could really be himself with her... but did she even glimpse the real evil monster residing within this shell of a human?


r/Chriswatts 21d ago

Always Remembered, Never Forgotten

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Shan’ann, Bella, Celeste, Nico ❤️

When great souls die, after a period peace blooms, slowly and always irregularly. Spaces fill with a kind of soothing electric vibration. Our senses, restored, never to be the same, whisper to us. They existed. They existed. We can be. Be and be better. For they existed. -Maya Angelou