r/ChroniclesofDarkness • u/Jaceaxe • Jul 03 '25

How do you convert old VtR 1e bloodlines to 2e?

Seriously, i've seen so many bloodlines that are amazing in 1e that where not brought up to 2e! What principles and guidelines you personally use to update bloodline features (unique disciplines, devotions, banes, ecc.)?

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u/Mundamala Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

As the other poster pointed out, None More Dark has done good work converting them.

Here's one. Some others are listed in the description.

https://www.storytellersvault.com/m/product/456171

But the big differences in editions for bloodlines are just that far less have bloodline disciplines and now a vampire can basically be recruited into one well after their Embrace. So you can just keep the fluff.

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u/Rex____ Jul 03 '25

Check out None More Dark publishing.

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u/Jaceaxe Jul 03 '25

Thanks!

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u/Radriel7 Jul 03 '25

I just turn Custom Discipline lines into Devotions, add a Bloodline Gift as a passive modifier and Bloodline Bane as a negative modifier that together act as a baseline for enabling the general concept. Not that you couldn't just update any custom Disciplines to new rules, just my preference in terms of structure and progression.

The annoying bits are mostly just updating the mechanics. 1e had a lot of design that was pretty clunky in comparison to most of 2e. This is not hard to do, IMO. Its just a lot of busy work. Balance is the final consideration for me, and that's probably the hardest part, or at least the part that has the potential for that. Keeping power levels from getting insane can sometimes be a challenge. Sometimes its just that one kind of an advantage is very difficult to manage compared to others.

As an aside, let me know if you have a specific Bloodline you're looking for. I don't have a giant stockpile of Bloodlines updated, mostly because my players haven't wanted to branch out too far from their favorites, but its also not like its never happened either. So maybe I have something you're looking for in a google doc somewhere. I'm not the most organized though, so sadly I'm not gonna provide a giant list of offerings(I don't have that kind of time), but if you give me something I can type in a search box I can tell you if I have it. Off-hand, I recall that I have a Malkovian version updated to 2e. I've also got some custom stuff I created like a Gangrel Mermaid/Siren bloodline.