r/ChroniclesofDarkness • u/Routine-Ad-2473 • Jul 24 '25

Uratha Tribes vs Garou Nation.

Something I think about in a crossover event like a Doctor Strange/multiverse scenario is how would the Forsaken and Pure Tribes deal with the Garou Nation. Assuming they went to war how might it go about. Will Uratha get their shit rocked or will the Garou be unpleasantly surprised in how these other werewolves are fighting. I know the 2 mechanical systems are different but trying to not focus entirely on that aspect of the question, how might it go down?

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u/Insanebat Jul 24 '25

Not familiar enough with either Werewolf games to give a super detailed analysis but the Garou would probably get along with the Pure a lot better than they’d get along with the Forsaken. They also would probably be unpleasantly surprised by how much more hostile the Shadow is compared to the Umbra. Who would win in a conflict is anyone’s guess and depends as much on the context of the war as it does on the actual participants. I will say that the Uratha are likely to be far more familiar with the experience of fighting other Werewolves than the Garou are likely to be given the whole millennia-old Pure/Forsaken conflict.

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u/Mundamala Jul 24 '25

the Garou would probably get along with the Pure a lot better than they’d get along with the Forsaken.

Yes, the Pure tribes were inspired by some of the darker elements of the Garou tribes.

The issue is more motivation. The Garou and Uratha are after completely different things, and they don't overlap. If the entirety of either side went to war with one another it would also first involve them having to unite for some reason, and both are basically against uniting (or the Garou would have just shut down the Wyrm and things like Pentex decades ago) to the point you'd have to wonder why the Garou -aren't- doing that with their newfound focus.

The end result would be asymmetrical. Like the various Middle Eastern wars, or Cuba, a Garou military trying to stomp out varied and disparate unconnected packs of Uratha who vary wildly in power and can hide among the masses of humankind or the areas untouched by humanity.

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u/Insanebat Jul 24 '25

Yeah I find a full-fledged war unlikely between the two factions given that in their own setting they haven’t even united against their ‘great enemy’, that said you could always think up some justification as to why if you really wanted to explore that route. And a werewolf guerrilla war honestly doesn’t sound all too different from business as usual for the Forsaken.

Personally I think the cultural aspect would be more interesting to look at. See how the two groups of werewolves both recognise and yet are so different from one another. I think that could be fun to explore.

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u/Routine-Ad-2473 Jul 24 '25

I figured Blood Talons and Lodge of Garm would be frontliners in this conflict.

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u/Insanebat Jul 24 '25

Maybe, depends on the context of the conflict of course. Why, where and how are they fighting? Are both sides united or are they fractious? A full-scale war between the two werewolf groups seems unlikely so whatever they’re fighting over is going to play a big part in defining the conflict and it’s participants.