r/CollegeBasketball • u/GlassRelief6332 Providence Friars • 2d ago
Penn State Non-Con Basketball Schedule (Pathetic)
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u/propervinegarsauce NC State Wolfpack 2d ago
Your annual reminder that Penn State has a basketball team.
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u/Chilinuff Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago
I love their arena, cozy as heck
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u/iHasMagyk Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 2d ago
You may be the only person I’ve ever heard say they love the BJC
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u/Chilinuff Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago
I mean it’s called the BJ center…
But upon googling I was definitely thinking of the old 6k seat Rec Hall.
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u/mitchdwx Penn State Nittany Lions • Bowling G… 2d ago
Rec Hall should be our home. We can’t even sell out the BJC for big games anymore. Best we can do is filling half the upper deck.
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u/loyalsons4evertrue Iowa State Cyclones 2d ago
does Penn State volleyball and wrestling use the BJC? Seems like they have routine sellouts
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u/mitchdwx Penn State Nittany Lions • Bowling G… 2d ago
Volleyball is always in Rec Hall. Wrestling is usually in Rec Hall but they’ll have bigger duals at the BJC.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
they've been in the BJ Center for a long time. lol
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u/Chilinuff Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago
30 years it looks like 💀
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u/Jewmangi Creighton Bluejays 2d ago
Mans just emerged from his basement thinking Reagan is still president
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u/Chilinuff Ohio State Buckeyes 2d ago
Just please tell me the budget is balanced
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u/Jewmangi Creighton Bluejays 2d ago
How do we tell him...
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u/DandrewMcClutchen Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
Soo “budget” is a word we aren’t allowed to use anymore….
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u/iHasMagyk Coastal Carolina Chanticleers 2d ago
Rec Hall is awesome. I’ve been there for a volleyball game and it was such a great atmosphere. BJC should just be a wrestling arena atp
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
purdue fans call it 'the mausoleum'. Lol.. though i shouldn't laugh too much because it feels like we lose there a disproportionate amount
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u/UnusualHound 2d ago
Most Big Ten fans hate watching their team play there, not because of the potential to lose, but because the broadcast always seems to have a mic actively picking up the most annoying fan in the world who won't shut up, and they're emphasized because there aren't other fans drowning them out ever.
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u/jcrespo21 Purdue Boilermakers • Michigan Wolverines 2d ago
I would argue that its relative silence but larger size, compared to other B1G arenas, makes it a harder place to play. If no one was there, it wouldn't be a problem. But those that do show up tend to stick out more since there isn't as much background noise to tune out. It's like how a fly in a quiet room is more annoying than construction going on the next block over.
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u/Trilliam_West UAlbany Great Danes 2d ago
How'd they end up with a game at New Haven?
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u/GlassRelief6332 Providence Friars 2d ago
New Haven’s first year in D1 and Penn state wanted to give them a big home opener. Good gesture I guess.
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u/chmcgrath1988 Boston College Eagles • Maine Black Bea… 2d ago
It also could be considered that maybe they wanted to try out the recently alleged best pizza in the country.
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u/grey_pilgrim_ Tennessee Volunteers 2d ago
I worked in New Haven for a few months. The pizza lives up to the hype. It’s definitely different from anything else I’ve had. Haven’t had any classic New York style pies from New York but New Haven was on a different level from anything I’ve ever had
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u/Ih8Hondas Missouri Tigers • New Mexico Lobos 2d ago edited 2d ago
I have a hate for NYC that burns with the intensity of a thousand suns, but even I have to recommend going there for pizza and other Italian food at some point. That shit is fucking delicious.
Was stuck there for an overnight layover last year and ordered so much Italian food (gnocchi, pasta, pizza, and more) to the hotel that I completely fucked myself up for the first few days of the trip.
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u/SoothedSnakePlant Vanderbilt Commodores • Truman Bulld… 2d ago
The absolute best places in New York are better IMO, but the average pie in New Haven is incredibly good.
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u/grey_pilgrim_ Tennessee Volunteers 2d ago
I’ve heard this from several people. I love New Haven style pizza but every once in a while I want pizza that doesn’t leave my hands looking like a graphite artist.
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u/chmcgrath1988 Boston College Eagles • Maine Black Bea… 2d ago
Yeah. I need to get down there for a weekend since I'm less than a four-hour drive away.
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u/TheRedWunder UConn Huskies • Utah Utes 2d ago
Recently? I’ve never heard of a time New Haven didn’t claim that.
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u/chmcgrath1988 Boston College Eagles • Maine Black Bea… 2d ago
Well, now people outside of New Haven are claiming that. They even bought a billboard in Manhattan to rile everyone up.
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u/365Horizon Kansas State Wildcats • West Cheste… 2d ago
Theres a new haven pizza in my town in philly suburbs
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u/Trilliam_West UAlbany Great Danes 2d ago
Considering that bullshit they serve in Altoona and Pittsburgh, damn near anywhere is a major step up.
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u/Doggystyle-Gary UConn Huskies 2d ago
It's actually not their home opener unfortunately. But it's a huge game on campus on a Saturday night presumably. That'll be very cool
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u/NighthawkRandNum Louisville Cardinals 2d ago
Not sure, but it had been known for a few months https://x.com/UNewHavenMBB/status/1933226007164518838
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u/CTMQ_ UConn Huskies • Yale Bulldogs 2d ago
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u/Adeptus_AFartes 2d ago
Whoa. I think my high school had a bigger gym than that.. I grew up in a small town - my graduating class wasn't even 150 people! Wild.
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u/SCsprinter13 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
I had 150 people in my entire high school and our gym was bigger than that.
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u/NickKerrLover 2d ago
At least all the freshman will feel at home, that “arena” is indistinguishable from a high school gym
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u/omni1000 Villanova Wildcats 2d ago
Hilarious. They will lose two or three of those as well.
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u/2Obsequious Wisconsin Badgers 2d ago
I would imagine they'll at least lose to Providence and Pittsburgh
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u/NoReallyItsJeff Syracuse Orange • Le Moyne Dolphins 2d ago
That game at the Giant Center is going to be cool as hell though.
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u/DionBlaster123 Niagara Purple Eagles 2d ago
Playing Pittsburgh at Hershey though is pretty cool
And I'm only saying this because Hersheypark is fucking awesome, although I'm sure by Dec. 21st, it's going to be shut down lmao.
Hershey Gardens nearby is pretty damn awesome too
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u/FahkDizchit 2d ago
Don’t a lot of state high school championships also play in Hershey?
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u/DandrewMcClutchen Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
They moved football. I forget where. Doesn’t matter. It was a stupid move. Not to be a homer but the only move that ever should have happened would be moving it to state college. Hershey was special.
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u/Sydney__Fife UConn Huskies 2d ago
Shut down for the season or they having financial troubles?
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u/DionBlaster123 Niagara Purple Eagles 2d ago
Lmao I should have phrased that better
Shut down for the season...although more I think about it, I think Hersheypark has their Christmas event so I was still wrong either way
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u/GlassRelief6332 Providence Friars 2d ago
They are playing @ New Haven lol
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u/Royth_Lewith St. Thomas Tommies 2d ago
Honestly good for them. It's solid when power conference teams do that, they certainly do not have to.
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u/RedditZhangHao 2d ago
IIRC, Penn State agreed to a 1 away game this season, then 2 home game contract with the Univ of New Haven.
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u/VyvanseFan67 Louisville Cardinals 2d ago
This is the worst one I've seen holy shit
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u/Ih8Hondas Missouri Tigers • New Mexico Lobos 2d ago
They somehow managed to outdo Mizzou in non-con terribility.
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u/rosco158 North Texas Mean Green • Duke Blue Devils 2d ago
spelling December wrong is a nice chef’s kiss
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u/amoss_303 Wyoming Cowboys 2d ago
Wow that’s really bad. I know Penn State isn’t any type of perennial tournament team, but still, this is as best a Big Ten team can do?
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u/Siakim43 Rutgers Scarlet Knights 2d ago
Wait until you see RU's. They're known to have weak OOC schedules - and still lose at least one of them every year.
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u/A_Lone_Macaron Syracuse Orange 2d ago
the streets will not forget all of the shit Syracuse took every year for not leaving the state of NY in non-con play
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u/AppalachianGuy87 West Virginia Mountaineers 2d ago
It is crazy with the resources and all. Know they’re in the middle of nowhere but Jesus Christ.
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u/cxm1060 Pittsburgh Panthers 2d ago
I wouldn’t really call Penn State the middle of nowhere. It’s similar to Morgantown. You’re closer to civilization than you think.
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u/Kenny_Heisman Pittsburgh Panthers • Duke Blue Devils 2d ago
nah man that's the middle of nowhere, nearly 3 hours from any major city (Harrisburg doesn't count)
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u/Ih8Hondas Missouri Tigers • New Mexico Lobos 2d ago
nearly 3 hours from any major city
laughs in Albuquerque
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u/AppalachianGuy87 West Virginia Mountaineers 2d ago
Well that just makes the lack of success even crazier?
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u/National-Falcon-8353 VCU Rams 2d ago
Ducking VCU again. We will remember that.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
can you elaborate on this? is there beef between Penn State and VCU?? lol
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u/WillWork4SunDrop Alabama Crimson Tide • Kennesaw State… 2d ago
VCU puts a clause in their coaches’ contracts that if they leave for another job, that school has to schedule a home and home.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
interesting idea. i don't see how it is enforceable though. which is probably why it hasn't happened.
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u/2Obsequious Wisconsin Badgers 2d ago
Penn State had to buy out the series. They paid 250k to not have to play VCU.
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u/HoyasRangers VCU Rams 2d ago
Exactly. Paying not to play an A-10 school. But I guess they didn't want to get pulverized.
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u/National-Falcon-8353 VCU Rams 2d ago
Which is crazy because they're playing LaSalle - also an A10 school.
A10 is a knife fight every year.
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u/WillWork4SunDrop Alabama Crimson Tide • Kennesaw State… 2d ago
Other schools have honored it. If they don’t, then I guess VCU receives liquidated damages because I doubt a judge is going to enforce specific performance.
Part of the deal may be that they don’t really care that much whether Penn State comes to Richmond because it isn’t all that interesting a matchup.
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u/National-Falcon-8353 VCU Rams 2d ago
We did end up playing them in a preseason tournament the year after Rhoades left and handily beat them.
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u/Formo1287 Penn State Nittany Lions • Dayton Flyers 2d ago
We stole their coach because Notre Dame stole ours. Idk whose coach they stole after that though
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u/SCsprinter13 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
They took Utah State's who already left for UVA.
Utah State took Montana State's coach who left after 1 year to Washington.
Montana State took the Point Loma Sea Lions coach
Point Loma hired from within a man that played college basketball as recently as 2015
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u/CTMQ_ UConn Huskies • Yale Bulldogs 2d ago
Not one, not two, but THREE Connecticut schools that aren't UConn or Yale? LOL.
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u/huskyferretguy1 UConn Huskies 2d ago
Weirdly UConn is also playing New Haven this season.
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u/RedditZhangHao 2d ago
Makes a lot of sense financially for the Univ of New Haven athletic dept jumping to Div 1, plus good PR for a little known school outside of the northeast
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u/porterbrown St. John's Red Storm • Big East 2d ago
Wow.
I always want to see 5 non con games from power conferences to gauge a schedule. The first filter.
I see 2.
That is bad.
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u/CallMeVe Bradley Braves • Missouri Valley 2d ago
Thought for a second there was a UNC Asheville, Connecticut
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u/Slippery-Pete76 Michigan State Spartans 2d ago
Did they hire Jim Boeheim to schedule their nonconference? This is terrible.
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u/SpamNot Iowa State Cyclones 2d ago
Y'all like cupcakes?
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u/Cassiyus Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
I think Penn State is the cupcake for at least two of these games.
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u/Doggystyle-Gary UConn Huskies 2d ago
Respect for them going to play @ New Haven. That will be cool
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u/Adeptus_AFartes 2d ago
Damn, I know Penn State isn't known for basketball in any way, but this is pitiful!
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u/Euphoric_Relative_13 New Hampshire Wildcats 2d ago
I think last year's was worst. They played Purdue FORT WAYNE.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
PFW was Kenpom #156. that is not a bad cupcake to schedule at all. For instance, New Hampshire was #356
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u/Euphoric_Relative_13 New Hampshire Wildcats 2d ago
This is true, UNH is hot shit. I should also add that I'm a Penn State fan but I can't figure out how to do a double flair.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
it's all good. I was just trying to emphasize that Fort Wayne is really not bad at all. they're a solid regional opponent. you could schedule much worse opponents than them
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u/MasterClown Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
I get that there are a lot of teams to play in that corner of the country, and maybe that region has always been PSUBB recruiting ground, but don't you guys want to travel a little more?
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u/MetaKoopa99 Penn State Nittany Lions • Pittsburgh … 2d ago
Ah, so we scheduled an absolutely disgusting non-con last year, and Rhoades said “we can do even worse”
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u/_alex_perdue South Carolina Gamecocks • Rand… 2d ago
With that kind of non-con, you almost need to get to 22 wins or so to have a legit chance at the Tournament. Jesus Christ.
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u/CreamiusTheDreamiest Temple Owls • Atlantic 10 2d ago
Will only play Philly teams they know they will beat like Drexel last year and La Salle this year. Probably Penn next year unless they turn it around
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u/DamnReCaptchas Fairfield Stags 2d ago
Booooooo
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u/RedditZhangHao 2d ago
In addition to Penn State playing at the Univ of New Haven, kind of bizarre for them to host both the Stags and the lesser school in the town of Fairfield.
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u/Ih8Hondas Missouri Tigers • New Mexico Lobos 2d ago
Jesus. This is even worse than Mizzou's non-con.
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u/Sydney__Fife UConn Huskies 2d ago
I'm impressed with the schedule New Haven put together in their first year of D1. Their AD was wheeling and dealing
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u/Feartheezebras North Carolina Tar Heels 2d ago
I’m surprised they had the boldness to release this on social media
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u/StrategyGameventures Quinnipiac Bobcats 2d ago
Penn State is playing both schools in Fairfield, Connecticut, but their two games in Connecticut are not in Fairfield
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u/AntSmith777 Washington Huskies 1d ago
Football team is really good
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u/HOLLA12345678 Penn State Nittany Lions 11h ago
Hockey, wrestling and women’s volleyball too. Not enough of the alumni/fans care about basketball to make it worthwhile to invest heavily into the program. This is coming from someone who loves PSU basketball. The truth hurts sometimes lol. The funny thing is we invest much more than we used to but NIL killed any chance for the program to actually become something.
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u/misdreavus79 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
So the team that finished 17th in the 18-team big ten a season ago, had just about every player with experience depart, and backfield with a bunch of international players, should have had tougher non-con?
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u/CallMeVe Bradley Braves • Missouri Valley 2d ago
They should at least have something to prepare them for the B1G gauntlet, yes.
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u/misdreavus79 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
The quintessential chicken or egg argument. Have a tough non-con that demoralizes a new team before conference season even begins or have an easy non-con that gives a false sense of security.
Either way, if the team is good they'll be good. If they're bad, they'll be bad. I'm going to assume this non-con is a reflection of what the coach thinks of the team he has.
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u/badger0511 Wisconsin Badgers 2d ago
Yeah, I mean, it's a pathetic schedule, but if they want any kind of a chance at a postseason tournament, they need to get close .500 in the B1G and devour cupcakes in the non-conference to get to 18-20 wins. There's something to be said for building team confidence from getting early wins. That won't happen with a gauntlet for a non-conference schedule where you're rocking a 6-7 (0-2) record on New Year's Eve.
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u/falconlover79 Georgia Bulldogs • Penn State Nittany Lio… 2d ago
Clearly we should be trying to go 6-5 in non con, when we basically have no chance of doing better than 10-10 in conference. Why are we even trying to have an above .500 record??
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
Soft but idk what anyone was expecting. Just like when everyone was bitching about VT’s schedule, there’s no reason for a bad team to play a hard noncon
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u/mtwolf55 Oregon State Beavers 2d ago
I mean not even 2 legit games Ooc? Quit making excuses for pathetic schedules from majors schools. This is embarrassing for them 💀
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u/Adventurous_Egg857 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
Hes just saying everyone is bitching for something that is irrelevant. Now if this was Purdue I would be pissed
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
purdue and penn state are just inverses of one another in basketball and football. we have garbage football and good basketball. they have good football and garbage basketball. and for this reason they're my favorite Big 10 opponent. lol
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
Penn State basketball is not major. Again I don’t know what people want from them, I’d get the criticism if it was a program like Michigan or OSU doing this who actually have history of success but it’s fucking Penn State man. It would be like getting mad at a program like Kansas in football for not scheduling hard. Your expectations should not be applied to all teams across a conference
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u/milesgmsu Michigan State Spartans 2d ago
Your go to successful basketball programs in conference are Michigan and osu?
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
I’m making a comparison to other predominantly football schools in the conference. Obviously this type of scheduling is beneath you guys
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u/Solesky1 Indiana State Sycamores 2d ago
Isn't it actually in the best interest of the B1G and SEC to give their worst teams the hardest non-con SOS?
Like you want Penn State playing like the HBCUs that have like 12 P4 buys games, @Alabama @Auburn @Duke etc so their SOS is so high they're a Q3 win instead of a Q4.
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u/Affectionate-Day2743 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
i see what you're saying, and in theory yes. but not in the real world. in the real world wins and losses matter and you can't build up a program (like Mike Rhoads is trying to do) if you're getting demolished in the non-conference. they have to get wins even if they're very weak wins. and Penn State is not going to voluntarily be a sacrificial lamb so that Purdue/MSU/Michigan SOS is fractionally better
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u/Single_Seesaw_9499 Purdue Boilermakers 2d ago
I don’t care about the rest of the teams in the conference, it is what it is. You can only control your noncon, and I’m happy with what Purdue has been doing while understanding that not every program could or should schedule that way
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u/rinetrouble Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
So weird seeing Xfinity Mobile Arena.
Hopefully the fans show up since it could be terrible for recruiting to have a half empty arena in what’s suppose to be a showcase recruiting game. Need to make sure the football game isn’t scheduled at the same time.
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u/Better_Trash7437 Penn State Nittany Lions 2d ago
Hey don’t sleep on the Campbell camels (my alumni)
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u/broccoli_d Creighton Bluejays 2d ago
Penn State: kings of the mirage created by a gaudy nonconference record before B1G reality sets in.
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u/osbornje1012 2d ago
Looks like at least 10 non-conference wins. Does nothing to prepare you for Big 10 season. Looks like they schedule like Indiana.
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u/c-williams88 Penn State Nittany Lions • Michigan… 2d ago
I’m just wondering why we’re catching strays from a UCF fan.
But yeah man PSU basketball sucks, so they play a shitty non-con schedule to get some wins before heading into the big ten schedule. It would be nice to have some stronger opponents, and it’s cool we’ve got the game against Pitt in Hershey, but when you’re ass you play bad teams to pick up some wins so you don’t go like 5-25
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u/REdwa1106sr 2d ago
They consulted James Franklin on how to build a schedule that guarantees a lot of wins and then allows you to complain at tournament time.
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u/JamesBouknightStan UConn Huskies 2d ago
Playing road games against low and mid majors is good actually, this schedule is fine
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u/jonneygee Tennessee Volunteers • Belmont Bruins 2d ago
Any softer and we’d have to call it a B1G football schedule.
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u/Bcatfan08 Cincinnati Bearcats 1d ago
ESPN gonna sell us on the gauntlet of a Big 10 basketball schedule.
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u/Character_Wishbone67 2d ago
They going for last place in OOC strength of schedule?