r/Competitiveoverwatch Apr 05 '18

Discussion Racism vs Racial Insensitivity in Esports

[EDIT 2] adding more explicit commentary because reading comprehension is hard.

The esports community has failed at this distinction and it has caused a lot of drama and consternation.

Racism is believing awful things about some group. [EDIT] Think of this as a measure of Character.

Racial insensitivity is saying something about a group that is offensive. [EDIT] Think of this as characterizing someones actions. You could also call this "racist actions", describing the actions a person took. I chose the phrasing to make a distinction between actions and character, not to pretend that this made the actions not racist.

[EDIT 2] The phrasing doesn't matter here and it's a shame I can't edit the title because people are caught up on this. The important distinction (again) is character judgement vs actions. Neither racist actions no racist character are something the community should tolerate. The distinction only matters in that someone who does not want to be known as racist will be willing to reform their racist or otherwise offensive behaviors when given the opportunity. That's why it's important to remember that, when it comes to Actions and Character:

These are not the same thing.

Both are incredibly important. Impact is more important than intent; it's important to be cognizant of how your actions are interpreted by the world around you. [EDIT 2] This means that being racially sensitive is a terrible thing and merits the punishments that have been getting given out.

That said, it's similarly inappropriate to always assume racism in the presence of racial insensitivity. [EDIT 2] This means that not everyone who says something awful and punishment-worth is doing so out of outright racism. Young, dumb kids say and do dumb shit for reasons above and beyond being a terrible person.

The important behavior we want to teach to players and fans is that sensitivity matters, and we undermine that by accusing everyone who makes a mistake on the sensitivity front of being immediately racist/homophobic/etc.

Racial and other insensitivity is and should continue to be punished by the Overwatch league and its constituent teams. The important result of this should be that lessons are learned, not that players are crucified.

Take a look at EQO's case - he made a mistake. For a lot of us, it's an obvious mistake but clearly not one he thought of. Both he and the Philadelphia Fusion made sincere responses to the mistake. This is a perfect example of how this shit should be handled. We as a community should also treat it as such, and while we should be harsh on players who do make these mistakes, we should also encourage these young people from various backgrounds to learn from such mistakes. Let them be examples to their fans, don't bury them in negativity.

This is really important.

[EDIT 2] For clarity since this has been all over the comments, EQO not only fucked up bigtime through his actions, he made it worse by trying to play coverup. The good response absolutely was at the behest of some authority figure in the Fusion, and that's exactly what we should expect of organizations in the league. We, as a community, should take a trust-but-verify approach - give the Fusion credit for their swift response and give EQO the benefit of the doubt that this was a lapse of judgement, but also keep an eye out that the final statement was sincere.

Take a look at XQC for another example.

In full disclosure, I don't like XQC. I don't like the majority of his fans. I'm probably naturally biased against him.

However, I don't think he's a racist, and I sympathize with the guy who is broken over being saddled with this label by the powers that be.

He made a mistake. Sure, he hasn't really shown that he understands this but at the same time, how the heck could he? He's being told he's racist which isn't something he's capable of identifying with. He doesn't share the beliefs he's being accused of, so how could he get anything from this?

He's not a racist. He made a huge fuckup and has been hounded by the community as if he's evil. He's not evil, he fucked up. He displayed poor judgement, that doesn't make him a bad person - it makes him human.

[EDIT 2] I thought this was clear from context but the important distinction is that he doesn't see him as a racist and continuing to accuse him of that worldview doesn't help anything. His actions WERE racist. You could say he was "acting racist" or "being racist" in reference to his actions if that terminology fits it better. Does he have a racist worldview? Only insofar as he clearly doesn't understand why it's important to be sensitive about how you show up publicly.

XQC isn't the first and EQO won't be the last to make these mistakes. So let's learn a lesson as a community and give these players the window to improve themselves and how they show up in public. Condemn the action, not the person - give them the window to reform. Let them acknowledge the difference between intent vs impact and use these examples to teach the community about why this matters.

Demonizing the people only undermines the opportunity for a lesson to be learned by the players and the community as a whole.

Let's maintain our standards, but enable our players to rise above careless behavior to those standards. Let's not saddle them eternally with the baggage of a mistake made of youth, ignorance, community-driven habit, and/or carelessness. Let's not make accusations of a person's character when they yet have the opportunity to grow from a poor choice.

[EDIT] This has gotten way more traction than I ever thought it would, so I'd like to clarify a few things in simple terms.

  1. The punishments were good and appropriate. I think the first reaction to negative behavior would be to stop it and punish. Only after should we look at how to rehabilitate bad behavior.

  2. The distinction I'm trying to draw here is the difference between Actions and Character. I think a redeemable Character can perform reprehensible actions. In the case someone does something reprehensible, we shouldn't shut the door on them redeeming themselves if they choose to accept responsibility and reform. That's really all I'm trying to say.

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u/sushicid3 SAYAPLAYER NUMBA WON — Apr 05 '18

Wasn't really bothered by what Eqo did, I had far worse things thrown at me during high school in the US (sometimes even from fellow Asians ) but I'm not gonna carry negative sentiments toward other people because they were kids mostly doing it out of ignorance instead of pure malice; besides I definitely have had let loose a few harmful words at moments of poor judgement, can't take the moral high ground when I ain't no saint myself.

I rather have the community spend effort on educating each other and integrating cultures instead of combing through every little bit of media presence for evidence to start a persecution, the small political-correctness victories you get out of social justice does not grant anybody true solace from actual systematic racism that exists in the real world.

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u/caedicus Apr 05 '18

The bottom line are that the standards are different when you're a public persona. We've all said terrible things in private when joking around with our friends, but when it goes public, it really can cause damage. Whether or not it's part of actual systemic racism doesn't matter, because at the very least, it emboldens people who are part of the systemic racism.

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u/sushicid3 SAYAPLAYER NUMBA WON — Apr 06 '18

He screwed up while representing a brand and was punished accordingly, I have no issue with that

Was referring to some people on social media stirring up outrage with no intention to improve the atmosphere of their community, solely to redirect their anger from whatever slight they had suffered in real world. The same kind of nutjobs that'd send Soe death threats for thanking men on Women's Day.

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u/ituralde_ Apr 05 '18

This is what I want. Let's have people learn lessons about being nice to each other and give an opportunity for role models to share their lessons with their fans.

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u/______DEADPOOL______ Apr 05 '18

Let's have people learn lessons about being nice to each other and give an opportunity for role models to share their lessons with their fans.

But that's what the organizers did. As role models, they cannot stand by and allow racist behavior to go unpunished, as that would reflect badly on OWL as a whole and no one would learn any lessons about being nice to each other.

Eco getting penalized by the org and OWL sets an example so that people learn lessons about being nice to each other. Racist behavior is not acceptable in Overwatch.

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u/ituralde_ Apr 05 '18

Yeah I think that was great. I didn't mean to imply I disagreed with the punishments from the organizations. I thought both Blizzard and the Fusion were appropriate here. I think it made a great statement as to how such actions should be tolerated in a professional environment.

What I meant to discuss was how we in a community in turn reacted. In talking to others on this thread I think what I really wanted to say was "Let's hold the pitchforks if we think a player sincerely wants to reform".