r/CredibleDefense 15d ago

Active Conflicts & News Megathread August 25, 2025

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u/Fatalist_m 14d ago

I think it's not worth building such a system just to try and blind a drone. If you have a detection system and a turret that can precisely target a drone with a laser, then you already have the most complicated parts of a kinetic anti-drone system. You might as well put a machine gun on it, or a powerful laser that can damage the drone. A Chinese laser has been used by Russians to shoot down drones, Ukrainians are also working on such a laser, but it remains to be seen if it's a cost-effective solution. IMO blinding sensors can be more of a secondary function, for example, if you have a laser that can destroy drones at 2km distance, it can probably blind a recon drone at a much longer distance.

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u/teethgrindingaches 14d ago

it remains to be seen if it's a cost-effective solution

Lasers are extremely cost-effective compared to guns or missiles, which is why they've been adopted by the PLA in far higher numbers. Drawbacks like range and rate of fire can be mitigated by using lots of them in conjunction with more sophisticated alternatives. But there's a lot of value in having a cheap platform you can push down to maneuver units, and unmanned versions are even more attritable.

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u/PyrricVictory 14d ago

Guns and missiles shouldn't be in the same sentence. Ammunition, even the fancy guided ones, are cheaper than even the cheapest drone you'll see used in Ukraine.

which is why they've been adopted by the PLA in far higher numbers.

Actual lasers, not dazzlers. Because when an FPV has spotted you and is beelining for you removing FPV's ability to see doesn't fix the problem.

But there's a lot of value in having a cheap platform you can push down to maneuver units, and unmanned versions are even more attritable.

Considering the US, PRC, and EU are all still in the beginning stages of fielding lasers how about some baby steps and we give Ukraine more SPAAGs.