Active Conflicts & News Megathread August 27, 2025

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In submarine news

Armyrecognition: India chooses German Type 214 submarine over Spanish S-80

According to information published by the Times of India on August 24, 2025, the Indian government has officially cleared Germany’s Type 214 submarine as the winning design for its long-delayed Project 75 program. The approval allows state-owned Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) to begin contract negotiations with ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems (TKMS) for the construction of six advanced Air-Independent Propulsion (AIP) submarines, in a deal worth over 70,000 crore rupees, or approximately $8.4 billion. This decision comes after more than six months of delay and firmly excludes Spain’s competing S-80 design from further consideration.

India has selected the newest version of TKMS' Type 214 class of submarines. Equipped with AIP, these 6 submarines will be build together with the Indian Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders.

The project saw a lot of delays and multiple contenders drop out over the years, including variants of the South Korean KSS-III, the Russian Armur-class, a diesel-electric variant of the French Barracuda-class. In the end it came down to the Spanish S-80 and the Type 214.

[u/Electrical-Lab-9593 → u/Gecktron]

how does this work, do they make the acoustics slightly different on export models ? why does it not create a problem for detection, if data is leaked or sold ?

[u/Gecktron → u/Electrical-Lab-9593]

The top of the line submarine of TKMS, the Type 212CD (ordered by Norway and Germany, pitched to Canada) is wildly different than the Type 214 sold to India.

The Type 214 line has been sold to a whole range of countries, including South Korea or Turkey. So while the Indian version is an upgrade, its also not cutting edge.

The Type 212CD is an evolution of the Type 212A, which itself is also different from the 214. The CD uses a very different hull shape than other TKMS submarines.

[u/Electrical-Lab-9593 → u/Gecktron]

ah that makes sense a different model, thanks.