r/Cricket 1983 Prudential World Cup Champions 20d ago

Opinion Tendulkar slams Bumrah trolls: ‘just a coincidence that India won Tests he didn’t play’

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/tendulkar-slams-bumrah-trolls-just-a-coincidence-that-india-won-tests-he-didnt-play-10172846/
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u/Fad_du_pussy 20d ago

Sachin probably got flashbacks of how people used to say that India lost everytime Sachin scored a century lol.

on an unrelated note, if Sachin is aware of the social media campaign against Bumrah, what other online discourse is he aware of? does he know about the bat ka grip meme? how about the Sara and Gill meme?

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u/Caped_Crusader03 India 20d ago

Of course he knows

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u/partymsl India 20d ago

He is literally a redditor. He is probably even reading this.

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u/Fad_du_pussy 20d ago

Tempted to tag him lol

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u/Human2626 Royal Challengers Bengaluru 19d ago

Damn bro i have news for you...

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u/svjersey 20d ago

he's got a shit ton of money and no real gigs going on.. so take a guess..

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u/genkourga108 Mumbai Indians 19d ago

Jadeja has trolled gill when sachin was in earshot, must be knowing

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u/billy8988 West Indies 20d ago

Didn’t Imran Khan say something like sachin doesn’t score when needed? IK was obviously misinformed.

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u/WildMap3845 USA 20d ago

slams is back

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u/ilolalot1 India 20d ago

S L A M S

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u/nubpokerkid 20d ago

Muted at least 4 Indian cricket subreddits today talking about Bumrah. I love how Bumrah goes about his life without bothering for fans or fame because he knows they'll turn toxic at any moment. I always thought that was a great move on his part.

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u/Ruthless-Aggression Chennai Super Kings 20d ago

Tbh, most of this toxicity started when he didn't call Kohli the fittest player in the team and instead named himself. Then a section of Koach's worst fans turned on him and since then, he has been micro-analysed like anything. Ridiculous stats like him being effective only against the tail-enders are being brought up. What kind of match are these fucks even watching?

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u/WrestlingFan4488 India 20d ago

And the whole tail enders thing is ridiculous because in this era tail enders are really difficult to get out and England have a really deep batting line up Carse and Atkinson will probably be no 8 for a decent number of teams

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u/Ronanarishem 20d ago

Actually, Siraj averaged 46 against England's top 7 and that is even after the final test match. Stokes averaged around 42. Bumrah also averaged around 42

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u/svjersey 20d ago

in this era tail enders are really difficult to get out

Someone forgot to send this memo to India batting line up

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u/AilaSachin10 Mumbai 20d ago

Ridiculous stats like him being effective only against the tail-enders are being brought up

There was a split of 42 vs 8 against top-order and lower-order batsmen for the series

42 sounds terrible till we realise that it was the 2nd best average against the top 7 in the series at the end of the fourth test and Akashdeep was 1st. Haven't checked after the Oval test though

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

It’s toxic twats like them which keeps from saying I’m a fan of Koach like genuinely he’s my favourite player (since I was growing up and still is) but the minute I say that I’m associated with these d*ckweed armchair experts

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u/North-Stand 20d ago

You are not alone my friend. 7-8 years ago one of most frequent youtube search string was "Kohli cover drives" whenever I took a short break from work. I got that much joy from his batting. But last few years I have been at odds with this toxic cult who seems to be a bunch of losers who have tied their whole identity and existence around one guy. Almost as if they have nothing to do and nothing to achieve. They just want to feed off Kohli's achievements. That makes them take real and even imagine slight of Kohli, as a personal insult and they pounce on you like a blood thirsty mob. Absolutely disgraceful. If Gill keeps doing well at no. 4 and starts getting applauded they will drag him through the mud as they are doing to Bumrah now.

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

It’s truly quite sad to see honestly I won’t be surprised if after he finally retires ODI (hopefully not anytime soon he’s still the goat in that format even Rohit to be fair) they’re gonna be the new Dhoni fans

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u/vsuseless India 20d ago

Sssssh, they will come and tell you how all fanbases do it. Especially with your flair

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u/ElectricalHeart3188 20d ago

Bro the Koach fanbase got a problem with everybody. It's insane

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u/Wolfie_3467 India 19d ago

The tailender thing is nonsense and only applies to this series too, because I distinctly remember him making the entire Aussie top 6 his bitch in the BGT

One series with flat pitches where he didn't average below 20 and now everyone's at his throat

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u/Nanoputian8128 Australia 20d ago

Lol did Bumrah really say he was the fitted player in the team? Was he joking or was he serious?

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u/ark1602 India 20d ago

Half-joking. Basically went - I know the name you are looking for, but I would like to put forward my name.

Talked a little more about fitness required to be a fast bowler and said that he would always reply with a fast bowlers name.

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u/SirArchibaldthe69th 19d ago

He’s not wrong either. It Is physically the hardest job. Make Kohli bowl 187 overs like Siraj did this series and his body would break down

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u/ark1602 India 19d ago

Unfortunately, like all big Indian stars, Kohli has quite a few fans with cult-like mentality as well. Who become pissy if others don't worship him too.

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u/Material_Web2634 India 20d ago

He doesn't deserve the toxicity but 

most of this toxicity started when he didn't call Kohli the fittest player in the team and instead named himself

here he was clearly delusional. 

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago

No he wasn't. A elite sportsperson needs to back himself as the best, consciously and subconsciously. For example, a elite sportsperson like Ronaldo always considered himself the best, always backed himself in interviews.

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u/Material_Web2634 India 20d ago

Because Ronaldo is one of the fittest footballer if not the best. Bumrah is nowhere near Cr7 level of fitness, not even Kohli's level of fitness.

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago

All that fitness to retire at 36. /s

It's not only Ronaldo, every elite sportsperson backs themself, even Koach backs himself, that's how he remained mentally resilient throughout his slump. But all hell breaks lose when our best bowler in generations decides to have some faith in himself. Bumrah may or may not be the fittest guy but there's nothing wrong in backing yourself.

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u/barath_s 20d ago

The way Bumrah's body is breaking down , I am not even sure that he is the fittest bowler in the team.

Ideally you can back yourself while appreciating others and recognizing immediate reality. Anyway hope he gets back on top.

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago edited 20d ago

Bumrah's case is quite interesting. It's not like he is exactly unfit or slacking off on fitness. If he had a traditional bowling action, then most probably he wouldn't be putting so much strain on his body, worst case he won't be as effective as he is. Now, due to his peculiar action, his back bears more strain than normal. And for that interview, that was harmless with nothing substantial in it, the journalist was fishing engagement by indirectly bringing in Virat but Bumrah decided to go the other way, which is fine in my opinion. And honestly, that doesn't warrant such extensive trolling, and this whole saga started when Bumrah was breathing fire on the field.

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u/barath_s 19d ago

Yes, there's the different views of fitness..

a) The amount of effort put in

b) Being able to be fitter than other players byi some quantifiable metric (eg recovery time , beep test)

c) Being able to be fit for your general role (fast bowler , strike/stock etc). This means you bowl your 15-25 overs in 4-5 spells at the speeds etc that you need to.

d) Being able to be accomplish the tasks you set out for yourself with individualized attention to your needs - so bumrah will need to be able to run his quota of overs for strike, pressure etc in a match , at speed, with specific exercises for his back/knee etc to alleviate any stress and reduce chance of injury.

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u/gpranav25 20d ago

Man how are you even maintaining your sanity? I couldn't even join a single one without cringing every 3 seconds.

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u/nubpokerkid 20d ago

I didn't join any of them. For some reason they showed up on my scroll page and I muted everything I saw.

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u/gpranav25 20d ago

I see. Yeah I can see how that can be annoying.

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u/multimeterreaction 20d ago

you went 3 SECONDS?

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

I believe he’s publicly said when you play at this stage your bound to get a LOT of negative criticism and that the players tend to keep their minds off of it not pay any attention to it etc

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u/protractedmane 20d ago

There are 4 Indian cricket subreddits?

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u/Ruthless-Aggression Chennai Super Kings 20d ago

The fact that someone like Sachin has to come out in the support of Bumrah shows how far we've fallen as a fanbase. A player with a test average of 19.8 (Yes, FUCKING 19.8) in 48 matches is getting trolled. Why? Because India won a few matches in which he didn't play. We don't deserve Bumrah at all. Insufferable fanbase!

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u/manobatasari India 20d ago

shows how far we've fallen as a fanbase

This is nothing new, and Tendulkar knows this just well. Growing up, a good part of 2000-2010 was: India loses every time Tendulkar plays well. So much so that people were seriously rooting for him to get out early so that 'India wins' (not in a joking way). It was just that this stupidity dissipated into thin air by the following day without being discussed across the world on twitter, reddit and news channels.

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u/pdsajo 20d ago

I’d argue Tendulkar’s generation has seen worse when people used to throw stones at their houses after bad losses. At least the current folks can simply turn off their phones and they’ll be good.

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u/ChaplinWasRight India 20d ago

It's cute you think we're above stone pelting now.

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u/pdsajo 20d ago

I’m not saying it will never happen, but social media has given people a more convenient way to vent out their anger towards the players. So the same people who used to throw stones then are the ones writing abuses in comments section now.

We haven’t had stone pelting and effigy burning in last 10-15 years the way it used to happen in the 90s and 2000s. Every single player, irrespective of how beloved they were, including Tendulkar, Dravid and Sehwag, were victims of that during those times

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u/ayowhatinlol 20d ago

Do you seriously think people are throwing stones at players homes now 😂

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u/aaditya_9303 20d ago

This was so true. Whenever Sachin scored a 100, some guy would say India is gonna lose now. It did happen a few times but what’s Sachin’s fault in that. He gave his 100% and the remaining team failed to capitalise on it. Even now, Bumrah rarely ever fails as a bowler. He gets you wickets almost every single game. Just because the rest of the team couldn’t keep up doesn’t mean Bumrah is the “panauti”.

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u/rip_archer India 20d ago

Thank you for stating this even if it’s so obvious, it’s not even like he broke down unexpectedly. He was supposed to play 3 matches, he fucking played 3 matches. Our fanbase truly sucks and it’s things like these that make me lose all hope in the future of our country.

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

To add on even further our of the 3 matches he averaged low even with that 100 run yield in OT and took two 5 fers in 2 games in one game he was let down by abysmal fielding and in the other by a sudden top order collapse for what was an easily chaseable target I genuinely don’t get how the hate for him comes from it’s not like we lost the 3rd match he played

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u/ayowhatinlol 20d ago

Its just some social media trolls bro, dont take them seriously, sports attract some of the worst fanbases

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u/rip_archer India 20d ago

Bro, I wish it was some, I seriously do. But I am seeing it across Twitter, other Reddit posts and even a couple of my friends who I thought understood cricket well.

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u/protractedmane 20d ago

I haven't seen it anywhere. Maybe I don't follow/like idiots.

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u/rip_archer India 20d ago

That might be true but the fact that Sachin had to say this clearly says that there are a lot of detractors out there

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u/ayowhatinlol 11d ago

And my point still stands? Its sports fans on social media, dont take them seriously, england football fans are horrible too but i wouldnt call england bad

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u/trooperr310 India 20d ago

how far we've fallen as a fanbase

Pretty sure our current players will prefer the current nonsense than living in lockdown after a match loss or getting their effigy burnt lol

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u/AcceptableBreach 20d ago

shows how far we've fallen as a fanbase.

Ugly people exist. And in this attention economy, negative content means more engagement.

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u/0uttanames 20d ago

When were we ever a good fanbase though ? Lol

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u/Balavadan 20d ago

Indians don’t deserve good things because some loud mouths are insufferable or have bad opinions? Even if it’s the majority, which it really isn’t.

Please stop that nonsense. Just address the problem.

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u/barath_s 20d ago

One of the downsides of Indian culture is hero/villain overreaction dichotomy. Both Sachin and Bumrah have been deified and don't deserve that. And both have had overreaction which they don't deserve.

Bumrah is a very very good lead bowler ; I love not just his skills, but his attitude.

But his body is breaking down (as many forecast it would , with that action). Average will go up as players age beyond their prime, or play when injured or wickets taken drop. Bumrah's average is remarkable right now, but it's not something to genuflect on.

The deification and the trolling hide that Bumrah is an excellent bowler but probably not a dominant one (never taken a single 10for, never taken more than 6 wickets in an innings, thinks his wickets out, with aid of intelligence, discipline, seam and his remarkable release point/unique action). As he is injured and likely to be more limited, he will play less. Can he be the lead bowler when he misses tests in a series over longer duration ? How does India build up pace stock ? How does strategy carry over ? How does India integrate Bumrah in the optimal way in the longer run

The Indian attack is better with Bumrah in it, very obviously, but the performance of Siraj with/without Bumrah suggests that perhaps there are nuances/dynamics to be addressed to maximize the team.

For now, I would simply wish him recovery from his knee injury, and am confident that his stable mind would help him ignore puerile trolling.

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u/ilolalot1 India 20d ago

Fallen? Were we ever up there?

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u/Cryptoprophet40 20d ago

Indian fanbase getting blame for actions of kohli cult . Bumrah's extreme trolling started when he didn't name kohli as the fittest player , named himself as the fittest . Now everytime he misses a match, trolling starts

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago

Spot on buddy. Bumrah wasn't being trolled until that statement. But after that statement, it seems like a certain section of people are always rooting for his downfall.

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u/Cryptoprophet40 20d ago

He had his critics before that as well. But after that its been extreme trolling every time he fails or gets injured

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u/spongey1865 Somerset 20d ago

It's such a weird phenomenon. But sometimes something that seems like a pattern has no meaning. Bumrah is clearly awesome and in the future India will be more likely to win when he plays than when he doesn't.

It's a bit like India losing 15 tosses in a row. Sometimes statistical weirdness happens and there's no rhyme or reason to it.

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u/navneetrai Canada 20d ago

This record is kind of baffling, but I think probably oppositions are now playing Bumrah out and taking more risks against other bowlers when he is playing.

I think Indian Bowlers perform worse when batters take them on. That will also partially explain success of players like Duckett, Brook and Head against India, as these players have a naturally aggressive style of play.

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u/Wetness_Pensive Canada 20d ago

Indeed. This is often what happens when a bowler develops a scary reputation; his partners pick up wickets for pressure he builds up.

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u/Nanoputian8128 Australia 20d ago

Idk if that is really the case, especially for this series. The way Eng bat, they were taking on all the bowlers regardless of whether Bumrah was there or not. Especially in the fifth test, they were going hard at the bowlers so can't say they were taking less risks compared to when Bumrah was playing.

I think really it is just a mixture of coincidence, other bowlers stepping up (Siraj in particular seems to step up with the greater responsibility), the opposition just not playing as well. Don't forget, for the last test Eng was missing Stokes and lost Woakes half way through which were huge blows that easily offset the no Bumrah advantage.

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u/gpranav25 20d ago

Actually there is some level of explanation. Bumrah is usually rested against smaller teams and/or in really spin friendly pitches at home. Obviously India has a good record in such conditions.

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u/navneetrai Canada 20d ago

I think we will probably see similar stats only for SENA tests too. India has not been playing too many easy tests lately with only only two non SENA away tests per WTC cycle and Bumrah definitely did well in WI

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u/causaloptimist 20d ago

I think in this case there may be an actual explanation. I think Bumrah is just so good that the rest of the bowling unit and even some of the batting unit subconsciously doesn’t step up as much as they can. Siraj’s famous line “I only believe in Jassi bhai” captures the phenomenon. A similar thing happened at Gabba where the entire team was forced to step up due to key players sitting out.

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

I actually think it’s different, due to how godly this man is batsmen try to just play him off and not take him on so they try to settle themselves with dots and singles during his overs instead and then go on to attack the other bowlers who are trying their best too but and I’ve seen this a lot this series with players like Siraj where even when they bowl well the fielding lets them down horribly. Take headingley for example Siraj was bowling as well as Bumrah he managed to get a lot of false shots against Root and etc but whenever he made those opportunities the fielding let him down

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u/g0_west England and Wales Cricket Board 20d ago edited 20d ago

I think if Bumrah and Siraj could link up mentally they could become like Broad and Anderson in terms of working in two bowlers as one. Broad and Anderson often talk about how when they were bowling together they'd work the pressure to try and take a wicket between them rather than just themselves each trying to take solo wickets. If Siraj and Bumrah linked up like that they'd be unstoppable. For example if Bumrah can hold down the runs because the batters don't want to chance it against him, they can build that scoreboard pressure and Siraj can tempt them well enough to strike and get edge. I think we'll see it in the next few years (if Bumrahs body doesn't let him down), it seems like India is moving much more towards a team mindset than an individual one. They're the same age too

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

I saw glimpses of that this series but nothing came of it because once again shitty fielding screwed the pooch if India is able to tighten their fielding and make it like we’re playing 11 Jadeja’s this could totally happen

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u/barath_s 20d ago

I think one should consider bringing in Bumrah as a first change bowler ...Let's experiment with this.

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

Giving Siraj that opportunity to be the main character improves him by leaps and bounds definitely they should look to experiment with this bowling attack either during home tests or the 2 matches vs NZ

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u/svjersey 20d ago

I would love to (if I had the time) assess how Indian captains are assigning spells / ends to Bumrah vs other bowlers, and what role they are asking those bowlers to play.

For instance, are our captains just relying on Bumrah to break all partnerships and asking other bowlers to play a containing role. Because then on a net basis, it is counterproductive.

Another lens could be that Bumrah plays the games that are likely to be harder, and so we lose them more.. hard to assess that..

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u/g0_west England and Wales Cricket Board 20d ago

If I was a captain I'd ask Bumrah to play a containing role and trust him to strike when the iron is hot rather than asking him to go for wickets every over. Let him build pressure, he's good enough that batters can't score off him easily and especially against sides like England, if they go for a maiden every other over, they're more likely to play rash shots against the 2nd bowler to try get some movement on the scoreboard

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u/Upstairs-Farm7106 England 20d ago

It’s pretty easy for this series.

1st test at Headingley he bowled poorly in the 4th innings but India collapsed inexplicably in the 1st and 3rd innings on a flat pitch, and also fielded dreadfully (Jaiswal in particular). 

3rd test at Lords the game was set up for their batters to chase down 195 in the 4th innings but they bottled. 

4th test at Old Trafford was a flat road. 

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u/Sudden-Yard-4052 20d ago

Imagine getting Sachin to speak up. Was disappointed with some ex cricketers like Kaif, even Sunny G who should understand how hard it is for us to have a prodigy Fast bowler.

That Man was scrutinized all the time even with his records and then whenever he scored , team would still find a way to lose, trauma was real. But good on him for stepping up, not like the trolls will stop. It's IPL team rivalries, your cricketer is bigger than mine mentality.

Also, a word how the whole publicity and leaks were outed before this series, there was no need to out that Bumrah would only play 3 matches. Constant workload quotes. So happy we levelled the series but it has given a bit of a rope to our new Grey Chappell. In all this we also forget the goof-up with Kamboj, was he injured, why was he send and called immediately. What was our plan with bowling attack. Morne Markel is just for vibes mostly.

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u/Rasam_And_Rice 20d ago

Any team, in any format, would have him as their first choice pick. That's how good a bowler he is.

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u/mercury_50 20d ago

I will only believe if Sachin posts this from his personal reddit account

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u/gpranav25 20d ago

He did. The article in-fact cites his reddit video as the source.

I'd recommend watching the series summary videos in his profile u/sachintendulkar instead of checking this awfully low-effort article.

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u/mnking8 USA 20d ago

If you're picking world xi for 3 formats, he'll be the 1st player to be penned in all formats without hesitation from all current captains and coach ( not sure with our maverick GG...lol).

I can assume where it's started and their voice is louder this year for obvious reasons....

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u/WrestlingFan4488 India 20d ago

Bumrah is getting the same shit that Messi got pre 2021

When you are really good even your off day is better than the most but because everyone expects you to be that good every time you don't meet their expectations it will be like this

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u/alphaQ314 20d ago

Even Sachin used to get a lot of this during his playing days.

“Sachin only plays for records. Dravid plays for the country.”

Boomers would make the dumbest shit up back then.

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u/Terrible-Stress-622 India 20d ago

This! Exactly

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u/SigmaRhoPhi 20d ago

I do feel there is something that happens to our other bowlers with Bumrah in the squad. I don’t know if they get complacent or are intimidated if they over shadow Bumrah. But I’ve seen the pressure being released when Bumrahs spell is over or even during the spell by the bowler on the other end. He needs support

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u/protractedmane 20d ago

Or maybe they don't get their preferred end, or the number of overs to get into a rhythm.

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u/RepresentativeBox881 India 20d ago

Always thought it was just banter. Didn’t know there were people who said this seriously.

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u/SuperannuationLawyer Victoria Bushrangers 20d ago

He’s mostly right, but there’s a small factor that Jasprit’s absence requires others to step up and take responsibility (which they have).

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u/kfadffal New Zealand 20d ago

I don't think it'd be wise to file it away as a "coincidence", there's clearly something for India to sort out here. Bumrah is 100% a part of India's strongest team but they need to figure out exactly why the other bowlers do better when he isn't around.

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u/Imaginary_Cookie_884 Canada 20d ago

its not bumrah’s fault the team doesn’t win when bumrah plays. the acc question that needs to be asked is wtf happens to the rest of the bowling when bumrah plays? y do they end up shittin the bed?

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u/ForzaFerrari7 New Zealand 20d ago

I think the opponent played cautiously when Bumrah was played, they continued their cautiousness for the entire match.

They bought back bazzball ever match Bumrah was not playing.

My view, i maybe wrong

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u/-bonkster 20d ago

"SLAMS"

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u/Andy016 20d ago

No other word can be used in media these days....

Its ridiculous 

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u/RepresentativeBox881 India 20d ago

Meanwhile the ‘blasters’ are now offended.

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u/OccasionRepulsive112 Kolkata Knight Riders 20d ago

Shocking how the same people who would dickride Shane Bond to appear cool will mock Bumrah's fitness struggles.

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u/Severe-Ad-6378 Bangladesh 20d ago

I love how Indians and Pakistanis troll their cricket teams. We can learn a lot from them

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u/Final-Batz 20d ago

The quality of headline is so poor from the editor.

It should be Tendulkar slams trolls on Bumrah

And interestingly, if you add a break like comma anywhere in the headline"Tendulkar slams Bumrah trolls" , it gives different meanings!

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u/Pun_nav 20d ago

Did we win T20 WC without Bumrah? No

Just take it as a coincidence and move the F on. Seeing the Bumrah posts everywhere even tho as jokes its too much now.

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u/sammeetthosar 20d ago

Its a small thing but I noticed this in the 1st test, when a day was ending bumrah and siraj were bowling in pair. Siraj was looking more threatening, bumrah had bowled his over and instead of letting siraj bowl the final over as 3 minutes were left, we gave the ball to jaddu so that bumrah can bowl another over. That just tells siraj that you are not good enough to take the wicket. How is he going to get the confidence to do anything when the team doesnt trust him. While bumrah was not playing this didn't happen and siraj got the trust of the captain.

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u/kitkat_with_sukiyaki 20d ago

He’s a an absolute champion bowler. The opposition fears batting when he is in the line up and become much more careful.

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u/Superb_Article_8298 India 20d ago

Bumrah is a kohinoor 💎. Dude is a bonafide legend. I would rather have him distribute is workload and play for another 5 years rather than have him retire in 2-3 yrs.

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u/No-Course5688 Chennai Super Kings 20d ago

Bumrah hate is unjust but surely no coincidence we won the games he didn't participate. The staff need to refer thru their strategies, maybe there's something there that hinders others. Also don't forget he played on all the flat wickets.

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u/am0985 India 20d ago

Outside of this series it’s mostly because he plays the tougher games. 29/48 tests vs Aus or England, 35/48 away from home.

However even independently of this the bowling unit has seemed to step up against England this series without him. But he didn’t bowl in the best bowling track of the series either.

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u/arandomguy05 India 20d ago edited 20d ago

I don't think majority fans think about Bumrah's performance that way. Even those who are saying that are pointing out a curious co-incidence but not criticizing Bumrah. Bumrah bowled well when he played except for one test which we drew anyway.
The most frustrating thing for me is Siraj's performance when Bumrah plays. Siraj showed many times (not just this series but before too) that he can assume leadership role when Bumrah is not playing but he is not that great when Bumrah is playing. May be he needs time to settle into match and with Bumrah, he won't get time as Bumrah is lethal from ball 1. Siraj's performance gap when he is the lead bowler vs when he is not is too big to ignore.
That is one issue we have. Bumrah always feels like a lone hunter while most fast bowlers hunt in pairs. Ambrose/Walsh, Waqar/Waseem, McGrath/Lee/Gillespie etc etc and Bumrah/Siraj has a great potential on paper but is never happening.

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u/Vegetas_Dummy 20d ago

His talking to all you idiots in the comment section

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u/pranoygreat 20d ago

The other bowlers should stop slacking off when Boom is in the team they should lift their game to his level.

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u/Helixdust India 20d ago

Lol, people taking that seriously enough to comment on it?

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u/JBPlayer48 20d ago

Wait, people are actually believed that? I thought it was a joke 😭😭😭

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u/SuperDosa32 20d ago

Bumrah has played 48 matches of which:

a) At home - 12 matches

  • we have won 7 matches
  • lost 3 matches (2 vs NZ and 1 vs England)
  • he has picked up 47 wickets @ 17.19
  • put that into context he has averaged less than 20 on one of the most spin friendly tracks in the world

b) Away - 35 matches

  • we have won 13 matches
  • in Australia: 64 wickets @ 17.15
  • in England: 51 wickets @ 26.19
  • in NZ: 6 wickets @ 31.66
  • in SA: 38 wickets @20.76
  • in WI: 13 wickets @ 9.23

C) Netural - 1 match (no wickets)

Bumrah’s contribution:

  • Wins: 110 wickets @ 14.50
  • Losses: 85 wickets @ 26.24
  • draws: 24 wickets @ 21.24

Overseas wins featuring Bumrah include JoBurg, Nottingham, Adelaide, Melbourne, Perth , Lords, Oval and Cape Town

Ridiculous people claim such a match winner is some sort of bad luck sign. The real question is why isn’t the team stepping up when Bumrah is trying his heart out?

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u/masqueradedmaverick 20d ago

Bro, you really did a fantastic job of pulling out these stats. I would request if you could also pull out the stats of his bowling in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th innings of the tests that will further help in understanding his contribution.

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u/SuperDosa32 20d ago

Thanks mate

First innings: 44 wickets @ 23.20 Second innings: 86 wickets @18.51 Third innings: 44 wickets @17.63 Fourth innings: 45 wickets @ 21.15

He is consistently brilliant across all innings - it’s unreal

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u/Charlie_Runkle69 New Zealand Cricket 20d ago

I don't think there's any more stupid than the truly uneducated fans of cricket and football TBH. Those people slept in when brains were being given.

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u/rebirth34 20d ago

I think sachin relates to bumrah . He knows what it feels like to carry the batting ( bowling in case of jassi) of entire teams.

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u/gpranav25 20d ago

I gotta say, it's pretty funny that a shitty Indian express article that adds nothing constructive on top of his opinion is approved but the same opinion posted directly by him would be removed by the mods.

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u/DisastrousOil4888 Royal Challengers Bengaluru 20d ago

The fact that Sachin fucking Tendulkar had to come out and say this is a grim commentary of the world we live in

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u/RetroChampions 20d ago

It's definitely not a coincidence, but Bumrah is definitely their best bowler, they just need to figure out how to get the most out of Bumrah and Siraj

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u/WrestlingFan4488 India 20d ago

I still feel They can start with Deep and Siraj and get Bumrah as the first change because Deep isn't a good old ball bowler yet

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u/am0985 India 20d ago

Siraj is better as first change than he is with the new ball.

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u/aaditya_9303 20d ago

I think this is the first time I’ve seen Sachin slamming someone. And it is for a good reason.

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u/Vivid_Equipment_1281 Australia 19d ago

The last BGT, Bumrah was the one Indian player I was genuinely afraid of. Felt like he could single handedly turn any game in India’s favour. Hilarious that anyone would question his value to the team, let alone supposed “fans.”

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u/Nostromoinfitinity India 19d ago

It’s the fact more specifically that the India team doesn’t do enough to support Bumrah’s masterful performances? Trolls don’t matter because they don’t understand the game

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u/Overall-Resolve-3807 India 20d ago

Sometimes gods can be wrong too.

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u/Ronanarishem 20d ago

The workload is high for him