r/Cricket • u/5missedcallsfromBCCI 1983 Prudential World Cup Champions • 21d ago

Opinion Tendulkar slams Bumrah trolls: ‘just a coincidence that India won Tests he didn’t play’

https://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/tendulkar-slams-bumrah-trolls-just-a-coincidence-that-india-won-tests-he-didnt-play-10172846/
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u/nubpokerkid 21d ago

Muted at least 4 Indian cricket subreddits today talking about Bumrah. I love how Bumrah goes about his life without bothering for fans or fame because he knows they'll turn toxic at any moment. I always thought that was a great move on his part.

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u/Ruthless-Aggression Chennai Super Kings 21d ago

Tbh, most of this toxicity started when he didn't call Kohli the fittest player in the team and instead named himself. Then a section of Koach's worst fans turned on him and since then, he has been micro-analysed like anything. Ridiculous stats like him being effective only against the tail-enders are being brought up. What kind of match are these fucks even watching?

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u/WrestlingFan4488 India 21d ago

And the whole tail enders thing is ridiculous because in this era tail enders are really difficult to get out and England have a really deep batting line up Carse and Atkinson will probably be no 8 for a decent number of teams

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u/Ronanarishem 20d ago

Actually, Siraj averaged 46 against England's top 7 and that is even after the final test match. Stokes averaged around 42. Bumrah also averaged around 42

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u/svjersey 20d ago

in this era tail enders are really difficult to get out

Someone forgot to send this memo to India batting line up

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u/AilaSachin10 Mumbai 20d ago

Ridiculous stats like him being effective only against the tail-enders are being brought up

There was a split of 42 vs 8 against top-order and lower-order batsmen for the series

42 sounds terrible till we realise that it was the 2nd best average against the top 7 in the series at the end of the fourth test and Akashdeep was 1st. Haven't checked after the Oval test though

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 21d ago

It’s toxic twats like them which keeps from saying I’m a fan of Koach like genuinely he’s my favourite player (since I was growing up and still is) but the minute I say that I’m associated with these d*ckweed armchair experts

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u/North-Stand 20d ago

You are not alone my friend. 7-8 years ago one of most frequent youtube search string was "Kohli cover drives" whenever I took a short break from work. I got that much joy from his batting. But last few years I have been at odds with this toxic cult who seems to be a bunch of losers who have tied their whole identity and existence around one guy. Almost as if they have nothing to do and nothing to achieve. They just want to feed off Kohli's achievements. That makes them take real and even imagine slight of Kohli, as a personal insult and they pounce on you like a blood thirsty mob. Absolutely disgraceful. If Gill keeps doing well at no. 4 and starts getting applauded they will drag him through the mud as they are doing to Bumrah now.

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u/Black_Mamba265 India 20d ago

It’s truly quite sad to see honestly I won’t be surprised if after he finally retires ODI (hopefully not anytime soon he’s still the goat in that format even Rohit to be fair) they’re gonna be the new Dhoni fans

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u/vsuseless India 21d ago

Sssssh, they will come and tell you how all fanbases do it. Especially with your flair

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u/ElectricalHeart3188 21d ago

Bro the Koach fanbase got a problem with everybody. It's insane

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u/Wolfie_3467 India 20d ago

The tailender thing is nonsense and only applies to this series too, because I distinctly remember him making the entire Aussie top 6 his bitch in the BGT

One series with flat pitches where he didn't average below 20 and now everyone's at his throat

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u/Nanoputian8128 Australia 20d ago

Lol did Bumrah really say he was the fitted player in the team? Was he joking or was he serious?

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u/ark1602 India 20d ago

Half-joking. Basically went - I know the name you are looking for, but I would like to put forward my name.

Talked a little more about fitness required to be a fast bowler and said that he would always reply with a fast bowlers name.

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u/SirArchibaldthe69th 20d ago

He’s not wrong either. It Is physically the hardest job. Make Kohli bowl 187 overs like Siraj did this series and his body would break down

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u/ark1602 India 20d ago

Unfortunately, like all big Indian stars, Kohli has quite a few fans with cult-like mentality as well. Who become pissy if others don't worship him too.

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u/Material_Web2634 India 20d ago

He doesn't deserve the toxicity but 

most of this toxicity started when he didn't call Kohli the fittest player in the team and instead named himself

here he was clearly delusional. 

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago

No he wasn't. A elite sportsperson needs to back himself as the best, consciously and subconsciously. For example, a elite sportsperson like Ronaldo always considered himself the best, always backed himself in interviews.

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u/Material_Web2634 India 20d ago

Because Ronaldo is one of the fittest footballer if not the best. Bumrah is nowhere near Cr7 level of fitness, not even Kohli's level of fitness.

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago

All that fitness to retire at 36. /s

It's not only Ronaldo, every elite sportsperson backs themself, even Koach backs himself, that's how he remained mentally resilient throughout his slump. But all hell breaks lose when our best bowler in generations decides to have some faith in himself. Bumrah may or may not be the fittest guy but there's nothing wrong in backing yourself.

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u/barath_s 20d ago

The way Bumrah's body is breaking down , I am not even sure that he is the fittest bowler in the team.

Ideally you can back yourself while appreciating others and recognizing immediate reality. Anyway hope he gets back on top.

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u/Expert_Coconut4263 India 20d ago edited 20d ago

Bumrah's case is quite interesting. It's not like he is exactly unfit or slacking off on fitness. If he had a traditional bowling action, then most probably he wouldn't be putting so much strain on his body, worst case he won't be as effective as he is. Now, due to his peculiar action, his back bears more strain than normal. And for that interview, that was harmless with nothing substantial in it, the journalist was fishing engagement by indirectly bringing in Virat but Bumrah decided to go the other way, which is fine in my opinion. And honestly, that doesn't warrant such extensive trolling, and this whole saga started when Bumrah was breathing fire on the field.

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u/barath_s 20d ago

Yes, there's the different views of fitness..

a) The amount of effort put in

b) Being able to be fitter than other players byi some quantifiable metric (eg recovery time , beep test)

c) Being able to be fit for your general role (fast bowler , strike/stock etc). This means you bowl your 15-25 overs in 4-5 spells at the speeds etc that you need to.

d) Being able to be accomplish the tasks you set out for yourself with individualized attention to your needs - so bumrah will need to be able to run his quota of overs for strike, pressure etc in a match , at speed, with specific exercises for his back/knee etc to alleviate any stress and reduce chance of injury.