r/DC_Cinematic • u/Nearby_Ad4786 • 1d ago
DISCUSSION IMO the best characters from prev DC Universe
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u/Yarzeda2024 22h ago
It's kind of funny that the best parts of the Black Adam movie weren't Black Adam.
I would have watched a Justice Society spinoff in a heartbeat.
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u/Nearby_Ad4786 22h ago
Yep. Atom wasnt in the top but was great top. The Justice Society has more personality than JL
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u/Gloriouskoifish 21h ago
I always felt the same way! I love JL but its like watching professional football vs college football. I find college ball has alot more personality and soul in the game, while NFL is more by the numbers. They're both great but I like seeing how they develop into better players, not be at thier prime form every game.
If that makes sense? Im terrible with sports analogies but it makes the most sense to me 😅
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u/greylord123 15h ago
It's so easy to hate the rock after this project.
It's one of those films that you think had so much potential but really wasted it and all that potential was wasted on the rock.
His inability to be overshadowed was really the downfall of this film.
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u/McDouble__ 15h ago
People care too much honestly the DCU was dead already everything they were putting out sucked. I don’t even almost hate Dwayne Johnson he was at the time the highest paid actor in Hollywood trying to breathe life into a VERY CLEARLY dead universe by playing a character he’s been a fan of for years.
He had been talking about liking the character for years before the movie so I think it’s fine. Cavil was on the outs, Affleck said he never wanted to be Batman again, Erza miller was arrested, Batwoman movie was buried, WW 1984 sucked etc. But Black Adam is the thing people highlight as killing DC lol
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u/Actual_Cat4779 5h ago
I don't think there was ever a Batwoman movie. There was a Batgirl movie that was buried.
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u/greylord123 15h ago
Amanda Waller.
Very well cast and I really like her "the ends justify the means" mentality. She's ruthless and she gets results no matter what the cost.
I don't necessarily agree with her methods but it makes for an interesting character.
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u/SupervillainMustache 21h ago
Really enjoyed Momoa's Aquaman, but think he'll do an even better job as Lobo.
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u/DarkEater77 12h ago
I liked his take as Aquaman too. kinda wanted it to impact his comic counterpart, making him more feral.
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u/narkaputra 1d ago edited 19h ago
This Hodge guy deserves a lot more. I can't fathom why doesn't he get more AAA roles
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u/MisterNefarious 11h ago
Black Adam was bad but it was FUN bad and I really enjoyed it
Fun bad is the best kind of bad
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u/Nearby_Ad4786 11h ago
Well, I watched it on Nteflix knowing that was a bad film and I enjoyed for the same. Another story would be paying...
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u/M3rc_Nate 8h ago
One of the saddest things about the Snyder DCU, during his reign and even afterwards, were some of the utterly fantastic castings and even costumes.
The casting, costume, acting, and even writing for Dr Fate was soooooooooooooooooooo good. I woulda paid real money for him leading his own trilogy of films. It's sad Hollywood see's Black Adam, and even worse Dwayne Johnson, as the ticket to big $ and success, rather than realizing something they consider less valuable is actually the diamond they don't know they have.
Dr. Fate I'd put up there as worthy of "best characters from the prev DC universe", Hawkman I wouldn't say so much. He's good, got a great design, but he's nothing I'm writing home about. Especially to the likes of Henry as Supes, Jason as a damn good Aquaman, Joe as Deathstroke looked to have fantastic potential, and Margot as Harley was basically perfect.
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u/jrvcrd 1d ago
nah, Superman, Batman and WW were adapted very well. Harley Quinn too, and Amanda Waller. Honestly, most of the Suicide Squad was adaptaed well, if it wasn't that movie didn't make them justice.
Oh, an Alfred was bad@ss!
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u/No_Read_5062 1d ago
Snyder's Superman and adapted very well in the same sentence. LMAO
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u/jrvcrd 1d ago
as a DC comics fan, yes, I totally think it was well adapted
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u/No_Read_5062 1d ago
Maybe to the injustice comics.
Well adapted Supermen are Reeve, Hoechlin or Corenswet.
Cavill's Superman (not his fault) is very bad representation of what Superman stands for.
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u/UltimateArtist829 22h ago
The fuck is the similarity between Snyder's Superman and Injustice superman? I don't remember Henry punching a fucking hole in Joker's chest. The only time Henry's Supes goes "evil" was the future nightmare sequence which wasn't happening in the present timeline of the DCEU movies.
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u/ProbablyRight0 13h ago
Nobody will tell you because there is now actual answer other than the knightmare scenes where it was the future that hadn't happened.
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u/ThirdRevolt 1d ago
If Snyder's Superman was a well-adapted Injustice Superman, is that still not a well-adapted Superman?
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u/jrvcrd 1d ago
yeah, but no. In what way does Cavill act like the Superman in Injustice comics? He is more comparable to the actual comics than people give him credit for. And again, I say this as a comicbook fan.
And the ones you mentioned, the newest one is by far the worst adapted. Superman doesn't go having temper tantrums or shooting one-liners as an MCU character...
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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 23h ago
Remember when he let his dad get sucked up by a tornado instead of just walking around the back and saving him when nobody was looking?
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u/jrvcrd 13h ago
eveeybody was looking plus, even if you don't like it, it's very well stated in the movie why he didn't save him. It was just another way to convey that part of the lore where Jonathan Kent dies, but it doesn't contradict what Superman is, it was a teenager obeying his father because his fatjer thought that was the best for him
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u/Son-Of-A_Hamster 13h ago
I fully understand the intent behind the scene, but that doesnt make it any less than one of the stupidest scenes ever made. He could have quite easily saved him without anyone noticing but just sat there and let his dad die a likely slow and painful death
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u/ManliestBunny 22h ago
It's his actions in the movies. They're always contradictory to his statements.
Remember when Zod & gang was surrounding his mother?
He ran in and attacked only Zod and pushed him into the town with a ton of people for collateral damage.
Leaving his mom alone with the bad guys.1
u/jrvcrd 13h ago
and can't you remember he was on his first day superheroing?
Can't you remember either that the bad guys followed them to Smallville so not staying with his mother?
Can't you remember he also saves lives in the town?
But as it seema it's not me the one who remembers the movie, please state in which part of the movies he did the opposite of what he says
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u/ManliestBunny 13h ago
I wouldn't make comments if I wasn't sure. I rewatched the fight scene like a few days ago. He specifically drags and punches them into the trainyard and buildings instead of taking it out of the town.
Snyder just wants the most destruction as possible for the flare, it's just not superman.
It doesn't really matter if they eventually follow him into smalleville, they could've killed his mother at any moment because he literally leaves her alone with them.It shows this superman's objective was to punish Zod instead of his mother's safety.
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u/jrvcrd 1h ago
he was still in his first ever fight, but if you look at the Metropolis battle, he never ever throws Zod against the buildings. And he still saved lives in Smallville even if he wasn't controling the fight. And the bad guys still followed them. And of course he was acting emotional, Zod was threatening his mother.
And you still doesn't contradict my point: where in the movie does he act opposite of what he says?
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u/ManliestBunny 45m ago
And the bad guys still followed them.
We are judging Superman by his written actions, Zack wrote a scenario where he doesn't know this would happen. How should Superman approach this situation to save his mom? He leaves her alone with like 10 other villains.
The contradiction is that for the sake of explosive cool fights, Zack ignores how Superman would focus on helping people first, which is what the dialogue suggests as well.
Rams into gas station -> huge explosion -> tons of people running around screaming -> Superman decides to taunt Zod about his senses(?).And don't forget one of the biggest criticisms of the movie since it came out.
Krypton's ship in the middle of the city -> Lasers it in half causing it to crash in the city -> It falls running through multiple buildings creating it catastrophic damage to the place-> makes out with Lois in all of the destruction.You can have reasons for all of it, but it's not Superman.
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u/DrHypester 1d ago
I would add Margot Robbie's Harley, Idris' Bloodsport and Robin Wright's Hippolyta to that. There were actually a lot of really good supporting performances in the DCEU, it's just the heroes weren't always emotionally accessible to everyone.