r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/fhxefj • Feb 12 '25

Memes and Joke Matchups What's the worst example of this?

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This is how I feel about a lot of Alastor matchups, especially Alastor vs Calypso which I just learned about today

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u/Dependent-Thanks-763 Feb 12 '25 edited Feb 12 '25

Max Steel vs Ryuko Matoi, great connections, character's backstories are almost identical, coincidental that they both debuted in 2013 and they both have swords that can split in two.

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u/GenofK53 Feb 21 '25

And one has numerous weapons, arguably better teamwork, Higher IQ, Vast forms, greater speed and just more power yep that's my boy max

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u/Dependent-Thanks-763 Feb 21 '25

Yep, the underrated goat himself, Max Steel. Even if you nerf Max Steel to just his Season 1-self he'd still win due to the AP and Durability difference between him and Ryuko Matoi

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u/GenofK53 Feb 21 '25

Yeah plus you know he has a form that is literally stated to survive black holes that also means that he has a form that can escape black holes and it is stated that turbo energy is a universal power; the only way I can see this being fair if we give her kill la kill if it might be a bit more fair but she would still get outstanding everything except power

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u/Dependent-Thanks-763 Feb 21 '25

Those are mainly hyperboles; it being the "mastering the universe" statement and the black hole statement

The black hole statement could be taken as word since Jim himself said it and he has more experience than Max but given the situation they were in its most likely just him overexaggerating.

I don't think IF Ryuko would lose to Max Steel but I see no use in using IF Ryuko since both characters are TV show characters and the fact that IF isn't canon and its literally just a dream.

( a lot of people try to argue that it is for stupid reasons like "Oh it takes place in an alternate timeline/universe!" when its literally just a "What If..." It's like saying the Marvel What If... show is canon to the MCU since it takes place in an alternative timeline/universe)

But non-canon stuff aside, its still a stomp regardless lol don't let any Ryuko fanboys tell you otherwise, I've seen them try to wank her up so hard with Shadow The Hedgehog vs Ryuko Matoi

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u/GenofK53 Feb 21 '25

That doesn't make sense for it to be hyperbole for him to say  that they could survive a black hole and the way he says it does back this up and dread was the one that mentioned universal power but he didn't say it like that but yeah either way doesn't really matter ryuko is dead.  I did not know some people actually thought that ryuko beats shadow that's just insane

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u/Dependent-Thanks-763 Feb 22 '25

he didn't mention what part of a black hole Nova Mode could explore, (e.g. Event Horizon · Accretion Disk · Event Horizon Shadow · Photon Sphere · Doppler Beaming) if anything he most likely meant the Accretion Disk (which is no where near the force of the singularity within the blackhole however it is very hot and radioactive) because Nova Mode can easily withstand the heat of the sun as well as the earths core and the radiation of Makino's mind within his core unit.

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u/GenofK53 Feb 24 '25

However that's an estimated guess without any real information I mean yes he is immune to radiation but that could be said for any one of his modes ;I  mean we can even say that he was inside the a black hole because he defeated Makino who absorbed/ destroy planets of varying  sizes and we know that's not even his final form

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u/Dependent-Thanks-763 Feb 24 '25

Only Nova Mode could enter Makino's mind because of the radiation levels, and Makino doesn't even have a final form he's not Frieza from Dragon Ball. His "true form" is his Ultralink form. And saying he could survive being in a black hole is too much of a ridiculous wank as its never stated what part of a black hole Nova Mode could explore, so therefore, its an overexaggeration/hyperbole. And planet absorption doesn't compare to surviving the inside of a black hole and it even depends on what size the black hole is.

Whilst yes, its an estimation, but an estimation that can be supported by evidence.

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u/GenofK53 Feb 24 '25

Evidence of what radiation you mean the toxins that he was immune to while fighting toxzon or the elementors  and I wasn't talking about Makino having a final form I was talking about  Max  Also Jim McGrath is a scientist he would have most likely mentioned what part of the black hole he was in, steel or anyone never once corrected him and even if it was a kid show they would have explained it.  Like I said there's just not enough evidence to really say that he's Nova mode can't survive a black hole I mean it's even used to explore the center of stars

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u/GenofK53 Feb 24 '25

I don't mean to sass you but it's kind of just not making sense 

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