Scaling base Fox to be able to survive one of the strongest weapons because of a training situation. Or claiming Fox could destroy the Chaos Emeralds without providing evidence if he could even do so in the first place.
Like, it's completely reasonable for him to focus more on actual in-universe feats, but there's a certain point where you need to start looking at lore to back up your claims.
I don't think there's ever been anything in the Sonic series that has actually physically damaged the Chaos Emeralds. The Master Emerald got broken (though the two who did it were Chaos and Knuckles, characters with special connection to it so strength may not even be the sole factor), but I don't think the Chaos Emeralds have ever sustained any physical damage.
Counterpoint: It's cool and also made Sonic VS Fox more interesting because it became Sonic using his versatility instead of nuking it with Super Sonic.
Let me make something clear: It wasn't just that the Chaos Emeralds were destroyed that's the problem.
The problem arises when Smash Bracket bends over backwards to try and justify this act in whatever way possible, speaking of technicalities and not even actually providing evidence that they COULD be broken in the first place.
For reference, I had to talk to an actual sonic fan to see if that was possible, but Smash Bracket just states it's possible without showing any evidence whatsoever, and only clarified his source after people complained about it.
Then, he never proved that FOX could do it. That little interaction wasn't just for animation purposes: It was Smash Bracket trying to show off a BS wincon for Fox.
Another thing you might notice is how differently the losses were treated in their episodes. In the original, Fox has a surprisingly graphic kill on Sonic, blowing his head to pieces. But when Sonic won, he just left him unconscious.
In Wolf vs Inciniroar, Wolf was scaled to a weapon that could destroy meteors or something similar. Not that he had it, but that he could take hits from it because he could do so in one of the Star Fox games side modes that are training simulations
Right??? I even brought this up to him in a livestream, and he defended himself saying something along the lines of "Training Simulations are meant to be as realistic as possible."
To this day, I'm convinced that he's biased towards Starfox. To me, it's the most reasonable explanation for how much leeway he gives characters of that series when it comes to what they can do and how their stuff works against other characters
Star Fox 64 also had a multiplayer mode where characters could tank Arwing and Landmaster attacks, and that's not getting how in Assault itself in singleplayer and multiplayer you are able to tank attack from Arwings variants, several other misc spaceships, and Wolfens.
Also the whole "multiplayer is simulation" is headcanon, it's never even once stated anywhere it's the case and the rumour spread from the fact the 3DS version of the training level for 64 LOOKS like some maps in Assault.
Little Mac is the strongest Smash Bros character, because he's the only one who has a feat against a real-life person.
Everyone else has feats either against fully fictional places, or fictional representations of real-life places (like it being set on an "Earth" identical to ours). As such, there's no way to prove those feats are actually impressive. Kirby seems strong, but you've heard the argument of "oh he's actually just 8 inches tall" right? What if every single other character is in the same boat?
Little Mac, meanwhile, canonically defeated Mike Tyson. Not a fictional representation of him either, they had to get the legal license to put him in the game (and replaced him with "Mr. Dream" in rereleases when it expired), so it's fully endorsed by Mike Tyson. Point me to another Smash Bros character who has feats against real people.
Mr dream retconning Mike Tyson out of existence means that Mr dream mantled Tyson and replaced and surpassed him, making him even stronger than Tyson himself. And Big Mac still beats him
People yapped too hard against Star Fox when under normal scaling they'd easily be Planet Level for a MFER straight up absorving spirits that held an entire planet together, SB downgraded Star Fox just as hard as Sonic (and come on, you guys really expected a show that prioritizes on-screen feats to give a series that never in fact destroyed an universe on-screen to be universal or above? Even the MFTL stuff is highly dependent on stuff like riding on top of rockets/taking the background as the character literally trasversing galaxies for some reason, and you are surprised it didn't fly)
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u/Savings-Fall5240 May 10 '25
Smash Bracket rules in a nutshell.
Not a diss against them. I have even defended it on a few times.