r/DeathBattleMatchups DIO vs Sukuna fan May 15 '25

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u/strangetransmissions DIO vs Sukuna fan May 15 '25

He’s faster than base Denji, but is slower than Pochita who reaches 0.48c

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u/MrChainsawHog May 16 '25

I don't think you can solidly say Denji scales to the typhoon devil since his city wide storm was hax, not necessarily something that devils who can beat typhoon scale to

That being said, Denji should have vastly superior speed given his upscaling from Yoru and her feats, as well as fakesaw, and pochita upscales even more so

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u/Wise-Inside1805 May 17 '25

I don't think you can solidly say Denji scales to the typhoon devil since his city wide storm was hax, not necessarily something that devils who can beat typhoon scale to

Tbh you cant even argue he would scale in the first place, since the people that actually scale to the typhoon devil (reze and makima) were completely beating the shit out of denji

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u/MrChainsawHog May 18 '25

Not really, since end of P1 or P2 denji should upscale from Reze, since he got stronger

And he did still beat and tank attacks from Reze, who typhoon was afraid of

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u/Wise-Inside1805 May 18 '25

Not really, since end of P1 or P2 denji should upscale from Reze, since he got stronger

When is it stated he got stronger? I havent been keeping up with P2

And he did still beat

He beat reze by exploiting her weakness of water, it wasnt because of pure strenght, Denji has big Battle iq when it comes to enemies stronger than him

and tank attacks from Reze

Like, at best he downscales, but even then reze was dominating him throught the entire fight til the ending

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u/MrChainsawHog May 18 '25

Not directly stated but

  1. Denji gets super-human capabilities in base (Going fast enough Miri thought he teleported like what Quanxi does, soloing a room of armed men with a bat, etc)

  2. One-shotting bat devil in crossfire, whom he previously had some level of difficulty with

  3. Being able to keep fighting even with his head cut off, whereas in part 1 Eternity breaking his neck put him down temporarily

  4. Fake Denji being able to solo all the hybrids, and Makima not being suspicious of his capabilities

  5. Denji soloing 3 hybrids at once, who should be on a similar skill/power level to Reze reasonably

  6. Quanxi stating Denji is more fearsome than her

Basically Denji should be a lot faster and stronger by now

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u/Wise-Inside1805 May 18 '25
  1. Eh, all hybrids are superhuman in base, quanxi was able to do all of her best feats while in base, also, i genuinely dont know what denji was doing in his fight with aki, man was selling hard

  2. I mean he was low/mid diffing the bat devil in pt 1, plus that was an inexperienced denji

3.i honestly dont remember eternity breaking his neck, reze did it tho so theres that, but that was in base, so im not sure how that translates to transformed denji

  1. You mean the final fight in pt 1? He wasnt really soloing, he honestly got his ass pretty beat up but got saved by makima, the hero of hell/pochita was struggling in his fight agaisnt the hybrids from what i remember

  2. Dont know where this is from, i assume its from part 2

  3. I feel like thats due to chainsawmans power of erasing concepts rather than denji being an unit, which tbf he is, just not on the same level as some of the high tiers

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u/MrChainsawHog May 18 '25
  1. Not at first. Only Quanxi and Denji demonstrated genuine super-human capabilities, the other hybrids are more similar to guys like Kishibe or Yoshida

  2. I mean not really mid Diff since he took massive damage and had his arm broken, more like high diff but I get the damage he took was situational, however in part 2 he literally kills bat devil BY ACCIDENT from him knocking cockroach devil into bat. In part 1, he could only stagger bat devil with a chainsaw punch. Here, it's killing bat by proxy

  1. Eternity did it then Himeno saved him. We see that in Part 2 Denji can go on a lot longer with injuries

  2. He killed all the hybrids. It took him down too, but he still defeated all of them.

  3. No, part 2 during church arc after they burnt his house down

  4. No since she's referring to Denji himself, not hero of hell. If it was hero of hell, she wouldn't say "I'm stronger but he's more fearsome"

Remember Denji was the one to defeat darkness Santa Claus in part 1 whilst Santa Claus caught all of Quanxi's arrows. Quanxi is strong and has good long range capabilities, but Denji much better at close range

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u/Wise-Inside1805 May 18 '25
  1. I mean, its not too crazy to assume all the hybrids have superhuman strenght but just did not get to show it, also, i get what you were trying to say with the kishibe example but hes also the strongest devil hunter and comparable to angel

  2. He did get harmed but he regenerated just as easily, even in part 1 his attacks were cleaving throught the bat devil like butter, also, while that is impressive, thats part 2 bat devil, we dont know if hes as Strong as his original counterpart, considering nayuta didnt seem that strong as makima (talking about physical strenght here) since she got captured

  3. I will take your word for it, tho again im pretty sure thats for base denji, transformed denji has a high regeneration on his own, also, denjis regeneration was just broken from the start, in buddy stories he was able to regenerate from being dissolved by acid, and that specific story took place before the international assassins arc, so likely before or some time after the bomb girl arc

  4. Mb, i didnt remember he beat them, but they also also left him at like 1 hp, also, he doesnt severely harm reze, he only cuts her in the side and shes defeated somehow, also, makima prob didnt make the hybrids go hard on denji, as she wanted to beat him herself, this would also be extremely weird considering the hybrids were holding their own agaisnt pochita and throwing him throught buildings and what not

  5. Dont remember

  6. Denji has the same ability as pochita of erasing devils, he just needs to be transformed to actually do it (also, i dont think he knows he has it)

He beat darkness santa claus by exploting her weakness, if not, he would have been cooked

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u/MrChainsawHog May 18 '25
  1. Nah, it's pretty clear that only Denji and Quanxi actually demonstrate superhuman ability in base. Hell, we specifically see both Quanxi and Denji blitz the other hybrids
  1. Relatively easily, in part 1 the bat devil's sonic attack still had him shaking from the impact, and his arm broken, and after his first revving he lost a lot of blood. Most devils should realistically be the same level as strength, as we saw with devils like typhoon or eternity. Nayuta likely isn't as strong because control is a humanoid devil, meaning she resembles human development stages, hence why she had limits on her control.

  2. That was transformed denji. Eternity broke his neck, and he got knocked out. Falling cut off Denji's head and he kept attacking. It is a little inconsistent, but generally Denji seems to be able to withstand more injury

  3. Sure, he was 1hp after fighting off all the zombies and hybrids at once. I think it can just be assumed that he cut open her heart or something and knocked her out before she had a chance to revive herself. Hybrids weren't holding their own against pochita though, he literally immediately one shot all of them when he felt like it. 99% of the time pochita just stands around waiting for the next guy to attack him, because they literally have nothing that can permanently harm him cuz of his regen.

  4. its in the 150 chapters, mainly 152.

  5. No, he doesn't. Only pochita has that ability, thats the point of the plot. We've seen denji bite devils several times and they don't get erased.

Sure but he still physically overpowered her in the tug of war, indicating he's stronger

Basically (All in hybrid form)
Physicaly Denji/Quanxi>other hybrids

In skill Quanxi>Denji

In pure strength Denji>Quanxi

In speed Quanxi~Denji

In ingenuity Denji>Quanxi

In close quarters Denji>Quanxi

Long range Quanxi>Denji

Durability Denji>Quanxi