r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/KindAnt4804 • May 18 '25

Memes and Joke Matchups True.

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

True, it’s hard to keep them dead

But generally speaking if you throw a planet at someone, they’re not dodging that shit

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

Joker Is above Planet level so he doesn't really need to Dodge, or in His case 

"I summon the MF who reflects physical"

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

Wait I just realized Kat’s greatest counter

If Joker goes for Sinful Shell, she has wormholes

She can basically Doctor vs Rick him by redirecting SS

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

He's way faster so Sinful Shell would hit her before she could react, and he can react to His own attacks, I think you're glazing the speed of a Black Hole to argue her being somehow faster

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

Lemme list all 3 reasons why she can outspeed

  1. Able to keep up with the embodiment of electricity (who by definition should be ftl, even without teleporting)

  2. Able to teleport herself (and others) via wormholes

  3. The strength and direction of gravity are her decision, so when all else fails “down is towards you at 30000mps2”

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

Oh you're FTL? Cute, here's the númerous counts of MFTL and Immeasurable feats in Persona, again, in the context of a debate like this escaping a Black Hole isn't all that impressive, like, Morningstar Dodging alone Is faster than the Black Hole or Electricity

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

But is it faster than teleportation? Because again, Kat can just open a wormhole and teleport

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

Yes, since that's still her speed, Joker Is still way faster and could react to her teleporting

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

So Joker can react to instant teleportation? Because that’s what Kat does with her wormholes, she opens both ends simultaneously and enters them in the exact same moment

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

Yes, the way you're describing it isn't instant, since she's physically entering the wormholes, and again, Joker has Immeasurable speed feats so he'd had More than enough Time to see her coming

Again, sorry, but it just seems to me like you're glazing the hell out of Kat 

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

“Immeasurable speed feats” you have yet to cite any

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

Well you haven't exactly cited anything other than the Black Hole, which again Joker Is faster than so this doesn't really matter

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u/YourMoreLocalLurker My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair May 19 '25

Keeping up with electricity

Teleportation

Gravity manipulation allowing her to fall as fast as she wants in any direction (which I should note she can fall as fast as she wants and not get hurt)

Ah yes I’ve only mentioned the black hole (which she tanked anyway, she didn’t need to dodge)

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u/Necrostar02 The Devil vs The Snatcher Debtor May 19 '25

https://web.archive.org/web/20241203011339/https://g1dbteamblogs.blogspot.com/2024/10/death-battle-predictions-joker-vs-giorno.html?m=1

And if you really need citatión of Immeasurable or Infinite speed feats for Persona witouth SMT scaling, you'll Find quite a few here, now if you excuse me, this went for longer than it needed to be

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