r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/SpeedyHedgehog_91 🍩 Homer Simpson vs Peter Griffin🍺 Fan • Jun 25 '25

Original Matchup "Shifting Ciphers" | Bill Cipher vs The Princess (Gravity Falls vs Slay the Princess) [Connections and potential in comments]

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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 Kyle vs Simon Fan Jun 25 '25

Yeah bill is cooked

The shifting mound is the literal concept of change and encompasses all dualities, including order

Shes essentially an outerversal entity

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u/TheKillerYTz Jun 25 '25

Bill is able to affect concepts like they are physical and him and Time Baby completely shook Dennis' backpack which is an outerversal construct

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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 Kyle vs Simon Fan Jun 25 '25

Yeah no

Its not outerversal

At best is low hyperversal cuz of the 11D stuff

And maybe low outer cuz of containing a type 3 multiverse but even then bill is not a good source for info as he lies and boosts his own ego

Besides, theres different types of concepts

The mound is a type 1 concept

Bill only affects type 3 which are not fundamental to the universe or multiverse

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u/TheKillerYTz Jun 25 '25

Concepts in GF transcend and create reality. They are type 1s

Cosmology has Ideas theory in it which scales to Outerversal.

If you highball Princess then I can highball Bill. Be fair.

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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 Kyle vs Simon Fan Jun 25 '25

Concepts in GF transcend and create reality. They are type 1s

Are they platonic? Thats how you get type 1s

Hes at best got type 2 concept hax

Also only the long quiet could beat her by becoming one with them as he was their opposite as absolute nothingness

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u/TheKillerYTz Jun 25 '25

Definition of Type 1 Concepts is literally the concepts unbound by reality, create abd transcend it. Tf?

Okay.

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u/Adventurous_Tie_530 Kyle vs Simon Fan Jun 25 '25

Type 1 are platonic forms

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u/TheKillerYTz Jun 25 '25
  1. Independent Universal Concepts: Such concepts are completely independent from the part of reality they govern, except maybe of other concepts of this nature. These concepts shape all of reality within their area of influence and at whatever level that area exists in, and everything in it "participates" in these concepts. For example, a circular object is circular because it is "participating" in the concept of "circle-ness". In this way, the alteration of these concepts will change every object of the concept across all of their area of influence, while the opposite wouldn't affect the concept.

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