Springtrap vs Junko PREDICTION BLOG (Five Nights At Freddy's vs Danganronpa)

[u/LokaTheBird]

https://lokapredictionstuff.blogspot.com/2025/07/prediction-blog-springtrap-vs-junko.html

[u/DeatroyerOfCheese]

Their justifications for Afton surviving Monokuma's explosions gave me an aneurysm. Afton canonically dies in a building fire- even if it's an especially hot one due to context Junko's shit ton of explosions would absolutely match. As well as the fact that exploding is just something the monokuma units do when pressured so it's something highly likely for Junko to just do without figuring out any weaknesses.

The mimic literally doesn't have remnant, making it's own resistance to heat entirely meaningless in this scenario as we're talking about burning the remnant out.

Lastly while Afton can control tech, he's never controlled tech to the scale (sheer amount) and as advanced as Junko's army of monokumas- they also didn't mention the coding backups which would allow monokuma to resist such a thing. Hell the fact that Ai junko can take over the monokumas leads me to believe that she could probably just take them back.

Afton also has to use these abilities- a monokuma hitting Afton wouldn't just immediately be sucked into him with his metal absorption, after all the forklift still hit Afton before it got absorbed.

I also don't think they brought up Junko using her own mind control tech which is long ranged (Afton just needs to see a screen) against Afton, where has he been shown to resist mind control? This would allow Junko to pacify Afton to her side as a remnant of despair.

With all that said, this was still a well written blog and I respect the research, though I thoroughly disagree with the verdict.

[u/Additional-Bat-5072 → u/DeatroyerOfCheese]

1) William doesn't die in a fire and dies in a lake

2) This is more comparative about animatronic physiology, Well, Mimic exists longer than the Classic animatronics and along with the Springlook animatronic versions, So it is valid

3) By scaling with Mimic he has agony and from there came his technopia. That would give William greater scope for technological control.

4) That with the forklift does not invalidate anything that in the end ended up absorbing it

5) The great willpower will allow William to counteract despair and he will also become stronger with despair.

[u/Wise-Inside1805 → u/Additional-Bat-5072]

1) William doesn't die in a fire and dies in a lake

1) Hes still able to die by fire, Henrys trap in fnaf 6 WOULD have killed him if cassidy didnt pull out his soul on time, and even then it left him in a massively weakened state as seen in the man in the room 1820

2) This is more comparative about animatronic physiology, Well, Mimic exists longer than the Classic animatronics and along with the Springlook animatronic versions, So it is valid

2) Ok? That changes literally nothing

3) By scaling with Mimic he has agony and from there came his technopia. That would give William greater scope for technological control.

3) Ok

4) That with the forklift does not invalidate anything that in the end ended up absorbing it

4) absorbed the forklift after struggling with it for more than 5 minutes straight lmao, its not instant in any shape or form and the monokuma units have multiple ways to not be affected

5) The great willpower will allow William to counteract despair and he will also become stronger with despair.

Not how the despair video works? Its straight up mind manip, LAYERED mind manip even, it cant be broken with basic willpower

[u/Additional-Bat-5072 → u/Wise-Inside1805]

1) It wasn't because of Cassidy, it was because of Andrew. But he still didn't die, and William should be able to apply the same thing to Junko, tying his weapon to survive.

2) Yes, it changes because Mimic is actually an endoskeleton that is quite basic and logically he should have died when he fell into the molten metal. But for reasons I don't understand he survived even with a metal suit or literally falling without a metal suit he survived the molten metal. There are other demonstrations that the fire really has almost no effect on William. In fact, one of his AR skins is completely burned and engulfed in fire.

3) ok

4) That doesn't take anything away and you continue instantly and it's also more focused on wanting to kill Larson. That would simply be character-induced stupidity for the sake of the plot. In addition, Monokuma units are susceptible to Kododata. Furthermore, agony can infect artificial intelligences to the point of losing control. So Winning's own agony could infect her and cause her to stop operating properly and that's something Junko couldn't counteract.

5) The video of despair is mental manipulation and empathic manipulation and is only used with characters who have not shown resistance to it. Makoto does not possess great willpower, not even in layers, he only has resistance to social influence. In fact, Hajime, who has great willpower, was able to counteract Junko's despair.

[u/Wise-Inside1805 → u/Additional-Bat-5072]

1) It wasn't because of Cassidy, it was because of Andrew. But he still didn't die, and William should be able to apply the same thing to Junko, tying his weapon to survive.

Potato Potato, Cassidy and andrew have borderline the same powers, Also, Didnt die because he got his ass saved, and still crippled him severely

2) Yes, it changes because Mimic is actually an endoskeleton that is quite basic and logically he should have died when he fell into the molten metal. But for reasons I don't understand he survived even with a metal suit or literally falling without a metal suit he survived the molten metal. There are other demonstrations that the fire really has almost no effect on William. In fact, one of his AR skins is completely burned and engulfed in fire.

Again, that doesnt change anything? The mimic has no remnant so comparing them is useless, regardless if afton has a better body or not

Ah yes, the AR game thats canonically a video game in a phone, thats surely more convincing than the direct statements and showings remnant is weak to fire

4) That doesn't take anything away and you continue instantly and it's also more focused on wanting to kill Larson. That would simply be character-induced stupidity for the sake of the plot. In addition, Monokuma units are susceptible to Kododata. Furthermore, agony can infect artificial intelligences to the point of losing control. So Winning's own agony could infect her and cause her to stop operating properly and that's something Junko couldn't counteract.

It being focused on killing larson changes nothing, the agony is sentient, it isnt a mindless beast, and calling it so would be a insult to Aftons intelligence

It isnt character induced stupidity, CIS for short would be if afton didnt use the ability at all, Afton taking time to absorb things is a straight weakness thats shown and was almost exploited by larson

Junko? Not being able to deal with hacking? LMAO, you surely must be joking, not only do monokuma units have coding backups, meaning if they are hacked they will straight up reboot themselves and get rid of the hacking, Chihiro fujisaki, the best programmer in the world, was unable to hack even a single monokuma unit, only suceeding due to Makotos luck which is borderline fate manip (And even with that, Chihiro/alter ego was only able to hack into the execution, and not the monokuma unit) Lastly, Headmaster monokuma units are straight up immune to the hacking gun, which messes with their internal coding to a perfect level.

5) Wound of Despair is mental manipulation and empathic manipulation and is only used with characters who have not shown resistance to it. Makoto does not possess great willpower, not even in layers, he only has resistance to social influence. In fact, Hajime, who has great willpower, was able to counteract Junko's despair.

Makoto? The ultimate hope? THE MOST opmistic character in Danganronpa,Not having great willpower? Again, you surely must be joking

The despair video is again, mind manip, it cant be resisted with willpower (Chisa was only able to resist a weaker version of it) Fuyuhiko and Chiaki were able to resist the effects of the aphrodisiadics with sheer willpower, yet they arent able to even struggle agaisnt the despair video, Sakakura, who was able to resist Rurukas mind control throught sheerwillpower, was also implied to be affected by the despair video

Also, no? Hajime never resisted the despair video, thats straight up false

[u/Additional-Bat-5072 → u/Wise-Inside1805]

1) Cassidy did almost nothing in all the Five Nights at Freddy's sagas beyond killing a random teenager. Andrew is the antagonist in the story of the man in room 1820. But still because of the abilities of the spirits and that others share the same abilities William should apply in the same junko

2) Yes it does apply due to the animatronic physiology itself, William's body was fused with Springbonnie's endoskeleton. Take into account the Five Nights at Freddy's AR game because naturally a semi-composite of William is used.

3) You didn't understand what I said what I said is that I was focused on killing Larson and At what point did I deny William's intelligence? I didn't even mention her. And yes it is plot-induced stupid because he doesn't use much of his other abilities in fact he doesn't even use his illusions. The Agony Infection is not a simple hack, it is literally corruption and manipulation of life. In the story of In The Flesh and The Mimic both Matt and Edwin unleash all their fury and agony on machines that possessed an AI The virtual Springtrap and Mimic's AI were both corrupted to the point where they gained self-awareness and became violent and aggressive. Springtrap's AI proceeded to automate itself to the point where it ended up corrupting the entire virtual game. Something Matt couldn't undo because the damage had literally spread and spread, making it impossible to fix.

4) Ultimate hope only grants more empathic manipulation and social influence But beyond that not much. Well here you can't compare with other characters who have willpower And that doesn't even fall on willpower but rather resistance to hax

[u/Wise-Inside1805 → u/Additional-Bat-5072]

1) Cassidy did almost nothing in all the Five Nights at Freddy's sagas beyond killing a random teenager. Andrew is the antagonist in the story of the man in room 1820. But still because of the abilities of the spirits and that others share the same abilities William should apply in the same junko

When i mean Cassidy, i mean Golden Freddy as whole, so debating which one saved William is a moot point, Regardless, my point wasnt If William could copy It, It was that fire will still harm him If given the chance

2) Yes it does apply due to the animatronic physiology itself, William's body was fused with Springbonnie's endoskeleton.

I mean, ok? Even as springbonnie he was still affected largely by fire

Take into account the Five Nights at Freddy's AR game because naturally a semi-composite of William is used.

If given the same leeway to junko, in a funny similar manner, shes able to straight up hit and affect souls in UTDP and Danganronpa S (which we know is effective as seen with Stitchwraith)

3) You didn't understand what I said what I said is that I was focused on killing Larson and At what point did I deny William's intelligence?

Again, you are acting like Afton is a mindless beast that cant multi task and Focus on absorbing the forklift First and kill larson later, him being focused on killing larson changes nothing as he would still be smart enough to absorb the forklift as a counter move

And yes it is plot-induced stupid because he doesn't use much of his other abilities in fact he doesn't even use his illusions

That wasnt even my point so why bring It up?

The Agony Infection is not a simple hack, it is literally corruption and manipulation of life. In the story of In The Flesh and The Mimic both Matt and Edwin unleash all their fury and agony on machines that possessed an AI The virtual Springtrap and Mimic's AI were both corrupted to the point where they gained self-awareness and became violent and aggressive. Springtrap's AI proceeded to automate itself to the point where it ended up corrupting the entire virtual game. Something Matt couldn't undo because the damage had literally spread and spread, making it impossible to fix.

Which is something junko herself can also do? A Lesser version of Monokuma was able to hack into Monacas robot and beat up her AI directly, The junko ai was also able to gain complete Control over the neo world program the moment It set foot in It (and all the headmaster monokuma units have junkos ai)

Even then, hes WAY too slow to actually be able to use that effectively

4) Ultimate hope only grants more empathic manipulation and social influence But beyond that not much. Well here you can't compare with other characters who have willpower And that doesn't even fall on willpower but rather resistance to hax

Thats straight up ignoring what the ultimate Hope is, the ultimate hope is literally inspiring others to never give up and always keep on living/moving to a Better Future, If thats not willpower then i dont know what It is (Makoto was chosen to be the ultimate Hope straight up due to his willpower)

Its not a resistance to hax, its Very clearly shown they are able to resist mind manip due to their strong Will (If It was resistance to hax, then logically all other students would have the same resistances, as Theres nothing different about fuyuhiko when compared to the rest) regardless, the despair vídeo cant be broken with willpower, as it targets the mind directly