r/DeathBattleMatchups Jul 12 '25

Debate Inverted Matchup: Genie (Aladdin) vs Michael (The Good Place)

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

(I know jack shit about The Good Place)

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u/Blair_Cypher_94 Donatello Versus vs SCP-105 Enjoyer Jul 13 '25

:D ay your finally here.... D: wait....Genie's gonna die?

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 13 '25

Check here) and here for Michael.

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Speed?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael debatably is immeasurable scaling off of Judge Gen due to her being able to walk through multiple Janet voids in seconds so him

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

Honestly Genie since Micheal has human speed

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Strength?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie, Michael honestly really doesn't have any particular feats that should be noted

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal, he kicked a puppy into the sun in seconds

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Range/Area Control?

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

Michael. Their ranges appear similar when given more generous interpretations but area control seems to be Michael’s whole schtick

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael since logically the fight has to take place in his neighborhood he and Janet control.

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25 edited Jul 15 '25

Micheal since he controls the entire neighborhood

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u/Snowmantarayband Yuji vs Denji Fan Jul 13 '25

What’s an inverted matchup exactly?

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u/DynamiteMango6348 Jul 13 '25

From what I can tell you take a character's most popular matchup and replace them with their opponent from another popular matchup for them

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 13 '25

Where two or more preferred matchups of a character fight against each other. Check this for example.

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u/Snowmantarayband Yuji vs Denji Fan Jul 13 '25

Oh like the triangle thing

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Rules: 

  • How I decide the categories: Whichever answer gets the most upvotes, whether it be one of the combatants or a tie, I'll have it take that category.
  • No Downvoting: It accomplishes nothing and only makes things worse for the rest who're expecting a fair debate. If I see up to date evidence of downvoting, I will suspend the perpetrator(s) for 2-weeks.
  • Give an Explanation: When choosing who takes Strength, Speed, etc, please give a rough or thorough explanation for your choice. A link to a source to back up your reasoning would also help, if you're able to.

No Favoritism: We all don't like to see our favorite characters lose but, in a debate, we must put those feelings aside for a fair and equal fight. Also, only participate if you are familiar with both characters (if you are not familiar with one or both characters, you are free to research about them).

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 13 '25

Check here for Genie.

Check here) and here for Michael.

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Durability?

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

Michael. While Genie similarly can’t really be killed by physical damage, he generally doesn’t tank attacks, instead getting damaged rather easily and regenerating.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal, only way you can actually harm him is by vaporizing his soul which can only be done by higher upside like Judge Gen

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Skill?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

He's shown far more creativity and usage of his powers in comparison to Michael. Anything the demon can do, the Genie can do and even more so.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Intelligence?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

While not as knowledgeable as Michael, he has tons of combat intelligence through facing off against multiple different genies in the past. Alongside multiple ways to gain information on the fly, being able to figure out Michael's weaknesses over the course of the fight, and ways of deception and cunning skill, Genie would more than likely be able to outsmart Michael in ways he wouldn't even expect.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael via having Janet, she's omniscient and even when she's dealing with something unfamiliar to her programming it only takes seconds for her to learn everything about it.

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal who has stated to read every single literature book on earth, and has existed since the beginning of time

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Powers?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie, Michael and Janet share similar abilities but those powers if they're on Earth don't work

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Weapons/Equipment?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie probably, Janet is useful but Genie has a device that can negate someone's own magic if they're more powerful than him so I think that takes the cake.

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Attack Potency?

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u/Punkakies 🟣Amythest vs Leone Fan🦁 Jul 13 '25

I think Michael should be stronger via Multiversal arguments

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

This is a Kingdom Hearts Mirrorverse level threat

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u/Punkakies 🟣Amythest vs Leone Fan🦁 Jul 13 '25

Ah

Guess we'll just whip out the Outer Michael arguments 🤷

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

looks like I gotta bust out my Boundless Genie thesis

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Combat?

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u/Grim_Stickens The Genie vs Beetlejuice fan Jul 13 '25

Genie, as he fights far more frequently against a wide variety of foes in his weight class whereas Michael more generally torments mortal souls vastly inferior to him.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael probably?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

Has faced way more foes and is more than capable of using his abilities in a combat scenario.

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Stamina/Survivability?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Tie.

Neither of them are shown to be tired out by anything in their main series. Both can nearly come back from anything aside from soul destruction.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Tie, they're both non-corporal entities unkillable by all conventional standards

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Agility/Mobility?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

With the control he has over his body, being able to access other dimensions like Michael, and is able to teleport around more rapidly so he definitely takes agility.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie, he's not a Kaiju shoving himself into a tight human body

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Battle IQ?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

He's faced a plethora of different Genies and other grand threats, being able to fight on par with some and even trick a couple of them on several occasions.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael.... Because of Janet again, all knowing artificial intelligence lady

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Abilities?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Tie, they share a lot of the same powers

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal along with Janet

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Unique Stat?

This will specifically be covering their allies. For the sake of this, Genies clones would also count as allies.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Janet easily, she's on par with Michael just with the bonus of incredible intelligence and combat skills

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal with Janet easily

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who wins and with what difficulty?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie - High Difficulty

Michael is pretty hard to take on, but Genies greater skill, better hax/win cons overall, greater strength and creativity with his powers would be able to have Michael on the back end and leave him open for the final blow.

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Michael high difficulty

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Experience?

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u/FARTSNIFFER9051 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie via fighting other magical entities like him in a direct fight, unlike Michael who's ever done that once in a low-scale bar fight while relying on Janet lol

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

In terms of general experience, likely Michael.

In terms of actual Combat Experience and facing against different beings over the years, Genie.

I feel like Genie would take this mainly due to actually participating in fights while Michael mainly just observes from what I'm aware of.

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u/_GreatAndPowerful Jul 13 '25

All I know is Michael is like... millions to billions of years old, so he probably takes this

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal has existed since the creation of the universe so yee

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 12 '25

Who takes Hax/Wincons?

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u/caliBOI78 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 13 '25

Genie.

He's has abilities Michael has and more. Teleportation, voice manipulation, reality control, regeneration, all things Genie can do to a more versatile extent by comparison. Along with begin able to learn what he needs through his powers via cosmic awareness and precognition, he'd be able to see what Michael will do and counter it when he gets the chance.

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u/nonexisting-- My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair Jul 15 '25

Micheal who can probably just wipe Genies memories with a snap of a finger, also he has Janet who can know any information about anyone possibly including the Genie

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u/ALARGESQUID Mother of Calypso vs Freddy Jul 13 '25

Uh micheal prolly wins, he's like 10d

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u/Captain-Fodder Jul 13 '25

IMO, this template looks a lot cleaner the lime green inverted symbol genuinely gives me eyeache

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u/Warm-Statistician774 Jul 18 '25

Can I ask for a matchup ?

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u/Savings-Fall5240 Jul 18 '25

Ok?

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u/Warm-Statistician774 Jul 18 '25

Actually, I have two matchups He-man vs Saint Saint and Kamen rider judo vs Vitiate from Star Wars

Thanks.