r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/DatKidZ364 The Traveler vs Nier 📖🗡️ • Jul 25 '25

Debate Community Debate Stats Results: Frieza vs Palpatine (Dragon Ball vs Star War Disney/Legends)

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u/Fast_Personality_357 Jul 25 '25

I think this is one of those times where yes, one character takes more categories, but the categories the other takes are soo important he wins anyway.

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u/BCCBATTLES ⚡️Palpatine vs Frieza Fanatic🛸 Jul 25 '25

I feel like that logic here would depend on if Frieza would have counters TO the specific abilities and hax of Palpatine. Cause, even with the likes of the Ginyu Force's colorful and diverse abilities, Palpatine ALONE has WAY more with his force abilities, by comparison. And that's not even getting into the OTHER Dark Siders of the Empire. And taking into account his MANY options that affect the fight without even directly having to do physical damage, beyond his physical body and through the mind and soul.

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u/A-Sadistick-Stick Jul 26 '25

I don't know all of legends Palpatien’s abilities. But given that Freiza’s own telekinesis should be much stronger powered by his own Ki, and that DB characters can overpower mental manipulation with sheer power and will, Freiza’s stats hold too much power over the Sith lord, even if he has clone bodies to return to.

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u/BCCBATTLES ⚡️Palpatine vs Frieza Fanatic🛸 Jul 26 '25

No, I mean stuff like Matter and Information manipulation, Dragon Ball characters can resist mind CONTROL and their emotions getting changed, and keep fighting after transmutation, but Palpatine has all DIFFERENT kinds of mind manipulation to even just violently ripping information out of your head, as well as MATTER manipulation. He has such a diverse range of very specific abilities, it's no surprise Frieza doesn't have notable resistance to a lot of them. That includes stuff we KNOW a higher power level doesn't counter, like draining energy.

It's not even JUST clone bodies, he can straight up use the force without a physical body as a living nexus of life draining Dark Side.

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u/DraconDebates Jul 27 '25

That just doesn’t matter because Frieza is infinitely faster and has the AP to one shot.