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Debate Community Debate Stats Results: Frieza vs Palpatine (Dragon Ball vs Star War Disney/Legends)

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u/BCCBATTLES ⚡️Palpatine vs Frieza Fanatic🛸 Jul 26 '25

But it does NOT. Because his hax DOESN'T rely on speed, he lives on even after his physical body is destroyed as a nexus of the Dark Side, still being able to use his force abilities. Stuff like Matter and Information manipulation, Dragon Ball characters can resist mind CONTROL and their emotions getting changed, and keep fighting after transmutation, but Palpatine has all DIFFERENT kinds of mind manipulation to even just violently ripping information out of your head, as well as MATTER manipulation. He has such a diverse range of very specific abilities, it's no surprise Frieza doesn't have notable resistance to a lot of them. That includes stuff we KNOW a higher power level doesn't counter, like draining energy.

Seriously, I feel like most of the criticisms here come from a lack of even knowing what Legends Palpatine can ACTUALLY do.

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u/Jstin8 Jul 26 '25

DB characters can and have fought ghosts before, see Kid Buu for the most blatant example. Palpatine just dies before any notable hax comes into play. Even if I entertained such comical notions like information manipulation.

Good lord with a thread like this its becoming easier to understand how folks convinced themselves Miles was gonna beat Deku lmao

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u/BCCBATTLES ⚡️Palpatine vs Frieza Fanatic🛸 Jul 26 '25

I'm not saying that's not a potential argument, hard to say tbh, considering Palpatine is a Dark Side Nexus on top of being a ghost, but Palpatine would STILL have ways of affecting Frieza, I don't see how it's a comical notion at all when Frieza just outright DOESN'T have resistance to a great majority of what Palpatine can do.

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u/Jstin8 Jul 26 '25

I agree that Freeza isnt gonna resist the hax man that Palpatine is, however that doesnt ultimately matter if Palpatine dies before he can effectively use his superior hax on Freeza.

Take one look at Megatron: his Antimatter would kill freeza no problem, but when freeza is billions of times stronger and faster, shit just doesnt matter

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u/BCCBATTLES ⚡️Palpatine vs Frieza Fanatic🛸 Jul 26 '25

The difference there is Megatron DOESN'T continue fighting after his physical body is destroyed though. I'd agree with you if Palpatine couldn't fight after his physical body is destroyed, but he absolutely CAN.

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u/Helpful-Emotion9256 Yuji vs Denji Fan Jul 26 '25

But again, frieza can be argued to still hurt him anyway