Community Debate Stats Results: Frieza vs Palpatine (Dragon Ball vs Star War Disney/Legends)

[u/DatKidZ364]

[u/Nin_Saber]

his neck just outright being snapped

For Palpatine to snap Frieza's neck, you'd have to argue what Palpatine can telekinetically move is stronger than Frieza's own physical strength. Even a Rancor with a reinforced throat resisted being choked by Vader himself.

Also, Frieza should have some resistance to soul destruction via taking destruction energy which attacks the body and soul.

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/Nin_Saber]

The hakai thing is silly because it’s still a type of ki energy, which is not what force lightning is. If you can argue force lightning is life energy then you can POTENTIALLY argue it. Potentially being the keyword.

[u/Nin_Saber → u/SoakedSun24]

But it's still a resistance Frieza should have since it's one that's actually displayed. I do agree that the "ki energy negs any hax from someone weaker" in debates is silly but if there's a hax that a dragon ball character is explicitly shown resisting than it should be fair game. I think the main potent ability of Palpatine's that could work is life drain but I feel most of his other options either don't really cut it or only work is Frieza is practically on his death bed already from exhaustion anyway.

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/Nin_Saber]

And thats the thing. Frieza is having to not only fight Palpatine, but Vader as well. Not to mention Frieza operates on a ki pool as well, using his energy in a fight while Palpatine is actively pulling it outta him would screw him up really badly. I think a DB character showing resistance to something is fair for a vs argument, thats true, but then you gotta remember that not everything can be compared 1-1. Its like saying Goku can move through skipped time or stopped time because of the hit fight, when this was because of Gokus ki. Remember Guldo? He could also stop time, but nobody was able to push through it because it wasn’t a Ki ability. You see what im getting at?

[u/Nin_Saber → u/SoakedSun24]

Vader is relevant in dealing with the Frieza Force itself but not Frieza. Any attack from Frieza with even the slightest effort into it will kill Vader and he lacks the ability to keep fighting after his body being destroyed that Palpatine has.

I do agree with your point about it not being fully 1-1, but I feel it should be sufficient in this case. Frieza takes destruction energy directly which deletes the soul. I don't think the full extent of Palpatine's Force Lightning is exactly "I delete your soul entirely with one zap" to my knowledge. So I feel Frieza's resistance should be enough to at least resist it for a notable amount of time before being vulnerable to it.

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/Nin_Saber]

Vader is relevant in dealing with the Frieza Force itself but not Frieza. Any attack from Frieza with even the slightest effort into it will kill Vader and he lacks the ability to keep fighting after his body being destroyed that Palpatine has.

Alright thats true, but the point still stands I feel. Its another thing Frieza has to deal with anyway.

The hakai thing is still pretty flawed though. DBS is stupid because Frieza was in his golden form when he stopped it, and he probably would not immediately transform against someone who seems to be insanely weaker than him. Remember he only went Black because he needed to take Goku and Vegeta down immediately. The fact that Palpatine can immediately just read Friezas thoughts IMO would help against Frieza immediately powering up, but I do understand what you’re saying and I suppose its a valid argument regardless