Community Debate Stats Results: Frieza vs Palpatine (Dragon Ball vs Star War Disney/Legends)

[u/DatKidZ364]

[u/SoakedSun24]

For those who’re like “But Frieza’s stronger and faster! Bro could just nuke the planet! Palpatine needed the death star to do that, this is a total stomp!”

Yes, Frieza takes raw power and if Palpatine wasn’t linked up to the dark side, he probably would just lose. However raw stats have never been debate enders. Frieza may outmuscle literally everyone in Palpatines army, but he doesn’t have any resistance to his soul being attacked directly, his life force being stolen oe his neck just outright being snapped. With everything Palpatine has, it’s legitimately an easier time for him as with his better mind tampering he’d be able to deduce what Frieza can and would try, and capitalize off that alone. If Palpatine really was just a feeble old man there would be NO debate, but he does have tricks up his sleeve that should prove how and why Friezas raw stats don’t matter in the long run

[u/Moidada77 → u/SoakedSun24]

If you can output enough power to counteract friezas own physical strength.

Telekenesis is basically remote controlling an object or doesn't bypass or shut down the objects ability to resist.

Otherwise even abra could break hulk in two.

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/Moidada77]

Could you dumb this one down a bit and rephrase? Sorry I’m a dumbass

[u/Moidada77 → u/SoakedSun24]

You basically use Telekenesis to basically move an object right?

Now depending on how strong it is you can either move a spoon or lift or boulder or lift a planet.

So if something is heavier or stronger than the pull/push you can generate it won't be effective as the stronger object can resist it by counteracting it with raw strength.

The muscle fibres in frieza can probably resist and counterpull....unless Palpy kinda lobotomise him or takes control of his body completely that frieza can't will or resist against it.

[u/SoakedSun24 → u/Moidada77]

Aah, I see. Thank you!

Even then though, I don’t think the telekinesis thing is a wincon regardless. Frieza doesn’t really have a defense against his energy being ripped out of him as he’s fighting as well, plus the whole force lightning thing being able to attack souls

[u/Moidada77 → u/SoakedSun24]

The soul Pikachuing is more valid yes